Saskatoon: Rants

“12 Reasons Why I Hate Saskatoon …

  1. The Climate…

I have to laugh… The people who live here are constantly reassuring themselves about how “great” the climate is here with inane comments like “You know it rains all the time in Vancouver” or “Oh, that terrible humidity in Ontario”. My God in heaven, it’s below freezing for 7 months of the year and 3 of those months are below -20C. The growing season is only 100 days long, it can freeze anytime of the year and a good part of the “summer” is cold, too…. and the bloody wind… It never stops.

Prey tell, then… Why do 12 million people live in S. Ontario and 3 million in the lower mainland of B.C. if the climates there are so terrible?… And yet Saskatchewan has not been able to get a population of more than a million in 75 years? I think it’s penis envy and a huge inferiority complex.

No one wants to live here for this reason alone… No one.

  1. The rednecks, lack of culture, lack of people with any taste or class…

Granted, there is lots of money here… rich farmers, rich oil workers… They have big trucks and bigger houses… These people are classless…They listen to country music, shop at Walmart, hock and spit, drink Pilsner beer, wear baseball caps in restaurants, are vulgar and crude and their idea of a fine restaurant is Mano’s or The Cave… Yep, paper napkin and family dining at it’s best.

Mind you, there are maybe 3 good restaurants in the city…

3.. The isolation…

God, Saskatoon is a million miles from any civilized place or big city… And I don’t regard Calgary or Edmonton as either civilized or big… 18 hours to the Twin Cities is your closest link to the civilized, populated world.

  1. The crime…

Highest crime rate in Canada.

  1. The Aboriginals…

I am tired of all of it.

  1. The Fattness…

Outside of the American Deep south, I have never, ever in my life seen so many obese, out of shape people.

  1. The Star Phoenix

You call that a newspaper?… What an embarrassment… and no paper on Sunday. I think Saskatoon is the only place in the world without a local, Sunday paper… God, I miss civilization sometimes.

  1. The West side…

Poverty, slumlords, crime, arson, post-industrial gloom… Almost every business closed on 20th st. from Ave. A to Ave. H. and the city pours millions into the beautification of this dismal, dangerous hunk of road. Brownfields, abandoned factories (Mitchell’s, etc.) Lame and doomed to fail attempts at revitalization (Farmer’s Market, The 20th St. Station) in this seedy scumscape.

9 John Gormley and CJWW…

The “voices” of Saskatoon… Good God.

  1. Don Atchinson…

Our local version of “Mayor McCheese”

  1. Beaten up roads…

My God, our streets look like something out of the Third world, beaten up roadways full of potholes, cracks, frost heaves… Line painting is lame at best.

As I told a visitor to here once who commented on the lack of line painting on the streets “Oh, don’t worry… Just keep your vehicle in the ruts in the street and you’ll stay in the right lane…”

  1. The world’s worst drivers?

This huge sense of entitlement (comes with loosers who have aquired wealth and big vehicles), lack of knowledge of road rules, general rudeness, excessive speed and lack of common courtesy.”

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“I moved from Vancouver to Saskatoon last year and my god do I hate this place to its guts.

My parents used to go to college here, and I have always hear about them complainning how bad Saskatoon was. Having lived in Ft Mac for 2 years, I didn’t believe them. Until last year, I decided to follow my parents footsteps and come to U of S, biggest mistake of my life thus far.

Worst thing about the city is the people here: Rude, stubborn, lazy and racial discriminating. Crappy city planning comes second. Drivers comes the third (seriously guys, driving a truck doesn’t mean you can drive in between lanes/ turn left whenever you want/ tailgating people).

DONT MOVE HERE!!!!!!!””

(source)

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“People in Saskatoon seem to think that their city is better than Regina. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black–Saskatoon easily is as bit a shithole as Regina. Here’s why:

1) Everyone drives slower than the retired.
2) Clueless drivers that don’t respect pedestrians, crosswalks, and even traffic lights.
3) Downtown has no real attractions and is dead… all the time.
4) No downtown nightlife.
5) People think Tim Hortons has “good” coffee.
6) They elect people like MP Maurice Vellacot…. year in year out. And then complain about the conservatism of Sask Party MLAs.
7) Home to some of the highest crime rates in Canada.
8) Maybe 3 good restaurants in a sized city that should have 20-30.
9) Can’t sustain a downtown grocery store open but can keep 3 Walmarts PACKED.
10) No gas stations (sorry, the 20th and Idylewild one doesn’t count).
11) There are no public beaches in a city with a river running through it.
12) River swimming is not allowed, due to hydrophobia than actual danger.
13) Road construction projects take weeks, sometimes months, to undertake… where in other cities it would take days.
14) No sidewalks on the busiest part of Circle Drive North.
15) People are incredibly poor tippers… when they tip at all.
16) Pubs and restaurants never cut off or give the boot to drunk patrons… they are allowed to cause as much trouble as they like.
17) Has the slowest service in restaurants anywhere.
18) Frumpily dressed people everywhere.
19) No tourism industry whatsoever…. seeing a Manitoba license plate is even rare.
20) Drop in medical clinics are always backed up and you can wait 2-3 hours to see a doctor in the “Home of Healthcare.”
21) Few signs that private entrepreneurship is encouraged.
22) Excess TV time devoted to farm and crop reports when agriculture makes up less than 10% of the provincial economy.
23) Newscasts devoid of any real newsworthy content.
24) Newscasters dress and look like 80s prom nightmares.
25) Some city streets aren’t swept to clean up road dirt in the spring until… summer.
26) Crappy, expensive to ride public transit system that shuts down too early/runs too infrequently.
27) People frown on public transit as ‘for the poor people who can’t afford a car.”
28) Junk Pontiac Sunfires…. everywhere.
29) No signs of logical civic planning… i.e. they let large lots of downtown real estate sit unused for years (i.e. the old King George Hotel and put a big ugly movie theatre on prime downtown near-waterfront property.
30) The WORST public bus system EVER – people think the bus is for poor people.
31) When the city bus drivers aren’t busy driving over people, they are just plain rude.
32) Crappy roads and potholes that go without repair.
33) Unsynchronized traffic lights on main roads in the city.
34) No bike lanes anywhere…. even though the city has one of the highest number of bike commuters in Canada.
35) Crappy, apathetic service at oh so many retail shops.
36) They can’t think of a better name for historical Victoria Bridge than to call it the “Traffic Bridge.”
37) Poor city planning i.e. traffic lights, crosswalks in poor locations.
38) Insufficient number of garbage cans and maintenance in main areas….as a result, street festivals (i.e. The Fringe) are garbagefests.
39) Overweight people everywhere… and junk food/candy vending machines galore.
40) Drunk driving seems acceptable to many, and the police never have roadblocks to stop them either.
41) You have to pay to park in the Midtown Mall lot… they charge you to go to the mall to spend your money.
42) the malls SUCK—people think the Gap is high end fashion.
43) Native culture is seen as a problem and not celebrated as in other parts of Canada.
44) There is public support for a lobby group sympathetic to the cops that killed Stonechild.
45) Few boutique shops… instead, tons of big ugly box stores.
46) The Star Phoenix is a rag.
47) You can count the number of ethnic food import shops on one hand… sorry, Cheese Warehouse just doesn’t cut it.
48) No specialty wine shops… and shitty liquor store selection.
49) Road lines always need repainting.
50) No rent controls for the home of socialism.
51) People don’t pick up after their dogs—spring should be called shit melt.
52) They charge people to get a pet license for their cats and dogs but never enforce it.
53) All the city firework displays (Canada Day, the Ex) are incredibly lame.
54) City Hall does nothing about the 20th St. problem.
55) The mayor is stupid enough to make racist comments in front of Indians at the First Nations University… and still gets elected by a landslide.”

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“I’m going to have to give you a big internet high five.
I grew up in Prince Albert .. which I assure you is worse to live in than Saskatoon or Regina by far. The only thing better about P.A. is that there are synchronized lights at some locations.

I lived in Calgary for 5 years before I moved to Saskatoon. Calgary is friendly, well thought out, and a pleasure to live in. You can meet people anywhere and find new friends in an instant. People say hi to each other and there are few “clicks”. Bringing this attitude back to Saskatoon was not accepted well. People are downright rude. My initial reaction to people here was, “What the hell! Do these people think they are better than everyone?” I’ve been here for 5 years now and all I hear about are comments like “OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY OF SASKATOON” and “SASKATOON SHINES”. Beautiful and shine my ass.

People don’t know how to drive here at all. They don’t know the concept of “letting people in” or how to properly signal. It’s silly … people only signal when they actually have a lane to go into. They will never signal to let you know their intentions. I see people all the time cancelling their signal when they realize someone won’t let them in.

Saskatoon’s traffic engineering is by far the worst, ever, period. It’s actually designed to stop you. red light to red light. No turning arrows. No thought. Just frustration. And, they won’t fix a poorly designed intersection. Instead, they will install a red light camera and penalize everyone for their screw up.

I’ve read reports of other big cities that saw significant decreases in crime rates by improving the driving conditions. Saskatoon could not be a better truth-proving example of crime being related to driving conditions. We have the highest crime rate in Canada. We also have the worst driving in Canada. Who shines now mother fucker.

Now, if this isn’t enough, the diabolical scheming bureaucrats here caused the Saskatoon housing market to reach levels that a city of this status should have never seen. I get a shit wage to drive amongst idiots in a poorly thought out city, at a job I hate, in a city with no life, only to be forced out of renting to buy a $40,000 house that I paid $300,000 for.

Come on Saskatoon. Get with the times. You are 10 years behind.”

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“YOU ARE A FUCKING GENIOUS! EVERYONE HRE IS A CONSERVATIVE, PLAIN, CLOSE MINDED PIECE OF SHIT WHO TRY TO ACT LIKE THERE FROM FUCKING CALGARY. NEWSFLASH BITCHES! YOU AINT! THANK THE FUCK CHRIST IM MOVING TO TORONTO! :D”

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“Saskatoon is a shit whole, there is nothing to do.Downtown is the worst,there is no nightlife but instead people smoking weed. I am getting the hell out of saskatoon as soon as possible.”

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“After two years of living in Regina, I have yet to find one person (not from here) who actually likes it. Every import I’ve met is just waiting to get out. I am outta here in 2 months and this is the impression of this province I’ll be taking with me 1) lack of work ethic. Worst example of this was one major grocery store I went to actually had NO ONE but the managers show up for work that morning. I believe there was a Rider’s game the night before. 2) Because of the lack of simple garbage cans in the city, it looks like an urbanized land-fill. 3) Roads??? What roads. You mean those trails that have worn down to the original wagon paths? 4)No snow removal. One gentleman I spoke to used to work for the City. He told me Regina has the most up-to-date equipment in Canada, but that no one knows how to use it – so they don’t 5) If I hear “but that’s the way it’s always been” one more time I’ll scream!! 6) No rent control. Landlords can charge what they want for dumps that anywhere else in this country would be condemned by health authorities. And don’t bother calling the rentals-man. I tried and was told to pay my $50.00 bucks and maybe they will get around to looking at my complaint in 2 months or so. 7) I no longer have any pots, pans, kettles or coffee pots. The city water here has destroyed them all.

I think you have covered the rest (buses, bad drivers, traffic, bugs, wind, etc)

I will say I truly believe this province has a lot of potential. However, the governments (municipal and provincial) and the people who were born and raised here HATE CHANGE OR PROGRESSION.

Therefore, so long Saskatchewan – wish I could say it was fun instead of “what a colossal waste of two years of my life”.

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“I lived in Saskatoon for 31 years. I found that Saskatoon people are arrogant, Calgary wannabees that think the city is as big as L.A. it is a hick town that has nothing to offer, no opportunities and a pretentious attitude that is not matched by any other city in Canada.”

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“the first two sexual encounter landed me witht he two worst stds (use your sympathetic imagination) you can’t find any pot and people will call there brother the hillbilly police officer for broaching the subject. The ethnic drivers the all go to the university own the the calcutta roads in the dump and everyone here is a farmer that stand by drinking 40s is gods way and taking two bong hits must mean your a homosexual satan worshipper. I thought regina was bad i fucking hate living here.it is starkly different in the issues mentioned”

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“I have lived in from Vancouver, London UK and Rome Italy. It is my 3rd year in Saskatoon, i absolutely agree with you 97% of your points. I went as far as to google “why does saskatoon suck” because I am in pain constantly looking at the obese, poorly dressed people roaming the streets and never having anything to do and any place to buy a bottle of wine. Save me.”

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“OMG this place is such a shit hole, i cant wait to leave here and stop wasting my life here. It been seven years and i cant raise my kids in this environment.”

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“It amazes me that Saskatoon’s infrastructure continues to get worse yet the people here constantly try to pretend its getting better. Love the pile of scrap that used to be the Victoria Bridge. Love that nearly half a million was spent on lights for it instead of actually repairing it. Love how Circle Dr. South never was finished even close to schedule and will remain that way for almost another year. Love the near useless transit system. Love the worst drivers in Canada and a Police force that seems powerless to do anything about them. Love the horrid restaurants that people actually convince themselves are good. Love the economic boom that people think is real. Love the ridiculous rent and housing costs that are so overinflated. Love the crumbling roads and bridges that need millions to repair. Love the idea of building a new art gallery while the rest of the city fails. Love the smugness of the people here. Love the hatred towards Calgary and Alberta. . I truly wish all the “cosmopolitan” residents of Saskatoon would go to Toronto for a week to see how a real city works.”

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“Just wait till the bank interest rate increases even a small percentage. All the morons that purchased $50.000 for 400K will be walking into the bank and dropping their keys off with the loans manager.”

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“Saskatoon as most agree is a boring shit hole with a bunch of Calgary wannabees, the prople aren’t friendly and are too stupid to realize they are living on a so called economy based on credit.”

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“I hate Saska friggin Toon. It sucks living here and it is rattling the shit out of my car.

I have created a good job for myself, and work with some pretty good people, but they are still “redneck mentality”

I can’t wait to move my ass back to a real province that knows how to spend my tax dollars on real roads and pay their construction people overtime to take care of potholes and road repair all night long so that the rest of the city can function the next day!

Hey Saskatoon… how about getting rid of street parking so that the snow removal can actually take place.”

If Saskatoon would actually ticket people for street parking overnight and get the damn parked cars off of a major roads like 8th street for instance, then maybe this town could grow into a nicely developed “city”. At least it would put some cash into the city’s pocket for more road repair and some decent parking. The downtown workers are penalized for working downtown by having to pay astronomical parking fees. Think about it Saskatoon, is this not unfair to people who work downtown?? It takes more than a certain “number” of people to create a city.. it takes the right attitude.

I have seen cars turn off of a main street onto a side street in the winter and get caught in the flippin road ruts (that are huge BTW) and take out up to four cars (five including their own) just like that, by being forced to swag back and forth in the slippery ruts. It is friggin scary to drive in those ruts. Wagon wheelers! Sigh!

Three years ago in that major winter storm, the city let their workers sleep and caused the whole of Saskatoon to shut down for business because if you took bus to work to avoid the damn expensive parking downtown core, you were shut out because there was no service for three days!

WTF Good thing everyone here keeps their trustworthy “snowshoes” by the front door so they could at least get their ass to the beer store for their three day supply of beer as that is the only place that got any business then!

How can the Province get ahead when SGI has to pay out claims like that episode I just described above…. and all because the they do not ENFORCE simple things like street parking.

Hell when I first moved here I would be running out to my car freaking out, thinking I was going to be towed if I ran into the convenience store for a minute and parked illegally because I am from a province that doesn’t screw around and they do their jobs. Here they are just lazy and lax!

People still live like “hippies” and think they are so cool… too many yoga studios here and the mindset here is just so meditative that everything seems to be tolerated.

The city stores and business in this hokey town don’t know what water is, as the windows are drab with Prairie Dust at all times… so nothing SHINES there. The Bay is an embarrassment to me coming from Toronto… Hell the Bay street store in TO was always so done up and the window dressing divine…

Here they merely stick a manikin in the window on first Avenue and let the dust settle on the lame outfit they dare to display… they have no back drops to make the displays POP and this is a downtown ICON… Ha ha… what a joke… It is The Bay for crying out loud. Should you not display it with PRIDE?

I would say that Saskatoon is 25 years behind in time and needs to invest in it’s own “township” BIG TIME in order to gain respect of the residents here.

Also Saskatoon people are so prejudice against the Native’s. You just don’t see that attitude anymore Saskatoon people. Wake up and get with the times… you should get your asses sued for the way you prejudice against them. Good thing I have set my own sole proprietorship and taken on my own interests for work to build enough to get out of town.

I’ll be in the Kawartha’s after July 1st, sipping margaritas at the lake C ya”

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Saskatoon is a fucking shithole. No wonder why the rate crime is so fucking high, people are bored to death. Downtown look like shit and you can see that there is no effort nor will to modernize the goddamn city.

What is fucking absurd is that there is no grocery shop Down Town. So good fucking luck getting grocery if you do not have a car. You will have to go on Broadway to the shitty overpriced stores or take a bus to 8th Street.

The life in Saskatoon is fucking expensive. Everything is expensive. The restaurant, the food, everything.

People here are still stuck in the 18s century when they used to ride horses because they can´t drive for shit.

Overall the people of Saskatoon are rude, ignorants, racists and retarded. Fuck this city.

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“Saskatoon should be renamed to Imbreed Town.”

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“saskatoon reminds me of a cheap dimestore hick who thinks he’s a bad ass only because he’s never known any real badasses. its overpriced, over-rated, the locals are sheltered assholes who’ve never lived in a real city so they dont have anything to compare it to. the city planners and decision makers are a bunch of greedy money grubbing douchebags who raise the cost of living every single fucking year. and people, because they are sheltered hicks with no other frame of reference, keep voting the same leeches into office year after year. im so glad i found this page, bc it validates everything shitty ive experienced in that shitty town. and yes, its fucking RACIST as shit. people know it as that racist town where cops kill natives and get away with it.”

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“I grew up in Saskatoon, then moved away with my family to Regina at the age of fourteen. I moved back to Saskatoon (after living in a few other places around the province) when I was twenty, and after the nostalgia wore off, I realised that Saskatoon really isn’t how I remembered it.

I have come to begin loathing this province, and desire greatly to relocate to Vancouver, B.C. but am quite unfortunately stuck in Saskatoon for an unforeseen amount of time due to uncontrollable circumstances (I assist in the care of my younger sister and mother who, due to health issues, have great difficulty when it comes to travel.)

I agree with nearly every single one of your points.

Saskatoon is a blight, an absolute blemish, as is the entire province, to Canada. I am honestly embarrassed to be from the area, and can’t wait to get the fuck out before I end up wasting my entire life in the hell hole.

For those of you who find life in Saskatoon, or Saskatchewan, pleasant, good for you. At least you can derive some sort of quality of living out of a dreary and pathetic place. As for me, I now hate it with a passion and should I get the chance to leave, I shall never come back.

TL;DR version:

Fuck Saskatoon and Saskachewan in general.”

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“I have never been more disappointed in humanity. I have lived in many large and small cities and this by far is the worst. Don’t bother trying to own nice things, they will get stolen. Your car will be fucked as people have no idea how to drive. The average iq, we won’t even go there. I used to think the US was crazy with there gun laws, I now understand. There is no respect for the next person and without saying a million things that have been already said, if your thinking about moving here please think again. Yes it is one of the fastest growing cities in Canada but also one of the easiest places to immigrate to. Crime rates through the roof and trust me, most is not reported. I can’t think of a worse place in all of Canada. Not only are the people for the most part an absolute disgrace, it is flat, boring, no night life, nothing to do in day either, cold as fuck and the riders are what ppl get excited about…a cfl team. Yay. Do yourself a favour and never ever even bother visiting. Wow…so sad.”

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“Saskatoon and SK in general are better than many third world countries and we should count our blessings that we can live in such a place. That said, since this is the only thing it has going for it, relatively speaking, it is a piece of shit hell hole compared to the majority of major cities in Canada.

The weather is my chief complaint. Frigid arctic tundra for 7-8 months of the year. Dirty and wet for another 2 months, dusty and mosquito infested for another two, dull and cool for the last. No pretty flowers in the spring, just mud and dirt covering everything left over from the oversanding of streets during the winter, because they refuse to plow the streets and salt on a regular basis. 2 of the 3 months it is acutally warm enough to enjoy the outdoors, it is infested with mosquitos to the point where you cannot enjoy going outside without dousing yourself in bug spray every 10 minutes.

Housing is way overpriced, few big city amenities, festivals are okay but pale in comparison to those in other cities. (Rib fest is three vendors in a field, they close one of the busiest streets down to set up three tables displaying random people’s artwork). No club scene, just a bunch of sports bars. Shopping is crappy, parking is non-existent, roads are shit. Its super dry and dusty in the summer and they don’t bother paving half the back streets or parking lots. NO TRAFFIC SIGNS ON hundreds of RESIDENTIAL INTERSECTIONS!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!
MALLS suck, only one decent movie theatre. Terrible shopping in general. One superstore with no parking. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH”

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“What the fuck is wrong with people from saskatoon???? They are unbelievably close minded, disrespect other cultures and religions, and are essentially living in 18th century attitudes. Unforntanately I have to stay here for a few years. Any tips on dealing with these ignorant assholes!!??”

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“I am glad I found this blog. Everything you say unfortunately is very true. In my 50 years I lived 44 of them in Vancouver. When I moved here I thought I was coming to a place of great opportunity and better house prices. What I came to is 18 century hickville. I cannot believe how unbelievably stupid people are here, and they think I am the stupid one. They argue about everything and think they know everything yet most of them have never been anywhere else except the lake and Regina for the Riders. The downtown is always dead and I felt safer in the downtown eastside of Vancouver than here. The only friends I have met are from Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver. They are all planning their escape as am I. You are right, escape is a gas tank away.”

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“Bravo, sir. Everything is spot on, perhaps even worse as you have described. It is certainly getting worse. I’m stuck here another year or so… counting the days until I leave.”

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“I could not be happier to read your post and a lll of the comments. This province is a dump. I actually can’t believe anyone willingly lives here. Thank you for showing me that I’m not the only person who hates SK more than I’ve ever hated anything in my life.”

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“Agreed….Saskatoon is a shithole and most of the people there are losers. I grew up in Saskatoon the first 17 years of my life. As soon as I was able to I moved from redneckville to where some real life was. Vancouver. I have since seen the world a bit and lived in Toronto for 15 years and London UK for 10. Ask any person who has lived in any normal place if they could tolerate what Saskatoon is or if they could live around the narrow minded types in Saskatoon, and they would likely puke.

Absolutely people with no class totally sheltered from the real world. Very sad.

To the people of Saskatoon, I have news for you. You’re the odd balls out…you’re nothing special. You are a joke. If you went anywhere else normal…Toronto, London or Los angeles, people there will look at you funny because you are so Unhip and un-with the times. Low class uncultured hicks.

Nice “freeway” system…just saw it recently. Wow impressive. Ha ha ha
Open your hick eyes and see the world a little. I assure you if you do, you will never return as life in all its forms…culture, having fun, opportunity, and comfort is better elsewhere.

Life is too short to live in sub artic conditions with hill billy types. A real joke. LOL LOL funny but sad at the same time.

What’s funny is that most people from Saskatoon think its good???Holy shit…for real?

Sad.
Theres no hope for some people.”

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“I read this list about 5 years ago, haha and it’s still true, the city is not making any progress at all. People keep talking some “economy boom” here. I don’t know what that is, other than jacked up living expenses to make it look like economy boom. Still below average factory jobs for minimum wage, but the cost of living went through the roof. The roads..haha..if you do own a vehicle, prepare to dish out a lot of extra maintenance cost for shocks, ball joints, even popped tires and bent wheels. This city, for a first world country, is about 20 years behind behind anything comparable, no not Winnipeg or Regina, they are just as bad.
Cheers!”

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“Saskatoon sucks.
I am from Toronto originally and lived in New York for many years.

I lived in Saskatoon for 5 years.
the place is cold, dirty, hard to live in and the landscape SUCKS .
…they’ll never leave the3ir good friends.
People there describe themselves as “lifers” LOL

But, the worst thing….the people there are stupid fucking hicks who know nothing.

If they went to New York or LA or London or Paris they’d realize what cultureless, narrow minded idiots they are.

Most of the people in Saskatoon visit las vegas once or twice in their lifetimes and think they have world knowledge.

It’s ignorance and knowing no better.
If you put a hundred Saskatoon kids in a room with a hundred kids from normal places like Toronto or Montreal, anyone could tell who the Saskatoon kids are….plain, funny looking, unsophisticated etc.

the funny thing is, most of the people there are so ignorant they don’t even know what they are missing…they are lost and out of touch wit the real world.

when people from Saskatoon visit the real world, people stare and wonder why they look so weird and act so funny.

However, that’s the way it is and thee is lots of places in the US and Canada like this…generally people too scared to go out and make their own mark in life so they stay with their “friends” in a place like Saskatoon.

A very sad place with very sad people.
so sad that most of them don’t realize what losers they really are!”

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“I lived in Saskatoon for many years, moved to Winnipeg and found it to be 10 times the city than Saskatoon was, although far from perfect.

Saskatoon is a vat of shit, poor economy, part time jobs, overpriced housing and everyone thinks they are on the same level as Calgary.”

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“Lol you nailed it. I’ve never heard of any bike owner keeping the same bike for more than three months before some piece of shit steals it.”

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“I spent a month in Saskatoon recently. I am from Seattle….born and bred. I’ve lived in New York and Germany as well.

Saskatoon is a sheltered little hick town and the people are extremely boring….stupid and uncultured in fact.

I never met a single one who could be considered a cosmopolitan person.

Most of its citizens have never been anywhere and the “city” is ugly. It is flat, and it is cold. Some city ha ha. 200k or something like that….with no metro area to speak of what a joke.

When that shit hole ends at the edge of town, that’s it for hundreds of miles. Nightmare!

The restaurants are crap but the worst is the people. They know nothing because the most modern place they have been is Calgary or Las Vegas. How amusing!

The people go on about themselves when you talk to them. the average one has absolutely no conversational skills. what losers.

I guess it’s cause’ they realize they really don’t match up to a person who has been around a little, seen the world that is…it makes them uncomfortable and self conscious.

It is like some bible belt place 40 years behind the times. Seriously, the average person from there would be laughed at in the real world.

How the fuck someone could spend their life there is beyond me.

Just my two cents worth…glad I am never going back.”

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“I don’t give a single fuck what any of the assholes from here say I have been here for 8 years and had a family besides the family it’s been the shittiest 8 years of my 35 years on this planet no joke we moving back to Calgary see ya fuckers!”

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“I agree with all the rants this place is full of 2 faced assholes that act like they are from Beverly Hills and really I hope this place finds its way to a massive sink hole and disappears forever!”

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“The economy was good for a few years, now things are looking really grim. Look at all the office vacancies. The residential vacancy rate is also way up, historically high. This is seriously bad news for this city. We overbuilt. People got greedy, built quick and cheap and now there’s too much of it. You could see it coming. Businesses are shutting down. 2nd Ave downtown is hurting. Car culture dominates here: everyone drives, all the time for even the shortest distance. And it’s not only because it’s cold, it’s because of bad city planning and laziness. People are lazy here. We are obese. Fast food chains, fine dining chains, box store chains, all foreign owned chains. The local culture here is so weak. There is a colonial attitude here that everything good must come from outside the province. There is a lack of self esteem here. There is an untidy use of space here. It is an indoor city. People retreat to their homes and to their TVs directly from work.”

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“What ever happened to when that shit hole of a city Saskatoon was called the Paris of the Prairies? Puke Omg to the people of Paris France I apologize for denigrating your beautiful city name with this redneck close minded idiotic mentality of a town and thinking we are actually as great as your wonderful and ancient city. This city is where all of the countries’ waste goes. If it’s corny diarrhea from Toronto or vomit from Vancouver this is the end of the line. This city was created from all of that human waste.”

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“Ha ha, glad I found this post!

I went to Saskatoon for a few months about a year ago.
I was forced into it by my employer for some business interests we have in Western Canada.

I am from London, UK and I have never in all my days seen a miserable little piss hole of a town in my life. The people are so “square” it is not funny….30 years behind the times.

Oh my God!
Restaurants suck, parks suck, but the people are the worst most uncultured hicks I have ever seen. Really uneducated, never been anywhere except Vancover and stupid.

The people in Saskatoon, You start talking to them and the conversation immediately fixes to themselves.

They try to impress you with what they do and where they live and what they have.

What a joke…brag about that place…you kidding me?
Most of them seem fat too….no personal pride in themselves.

Nothing to do there…no world class music, sights, museums, history, nice bars, cool cars, NOTHING! The place is void of all normal things in a real place

They have boats in their garages, motorcycles, and big bellies. LOL!

I say to them, check out London, (or for that matter, Paris or Berlin) and see how NORMAL people live.

Virtually anyone from Saskatoon would stick out in one of these places like a sore thumb in the unsophisticated department.

I spent time in Toronto too….100% improvement on Saskatoon. It is a real city….Saskatoon is a flat ugly boring place with NOTHING to do but drink and read about native crime….oh and get fat too.

Glad I left after 8 weeks of hell…never going back!

Next time the newest guy in the company can have that assignment.”

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“To the assholes complaining about people posting that they dont like saskatchewan: news flash, not everyone sucks your provinces cock like you do so SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LEAVE THIS PAGE because its a page for people who have better taste than you and have a right to list all the ways saskatchewan sucks…

oh, and dont forget the absolutely fucking terrifying rates of CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE thats always being covered up by your “great saskatchewaners” inclduing your pervert mayor don atcheson.

saskatchewan is a shit hole of racist inbred rednecks whose pompous attitudes and belief saskatchewan is “great” are only possible because THEYVE NEVER BEEN ANYWHERE ELSE!

and now your provincial douchebag brad wall has also proved even he was only here for the money and to fuck you all up the ass: he got his giant million dollar paycheck and whats the first thing he did? he fucked off lol

and its way better for people to vent on a page than to go off on someone in person, so you can go fuck yourself with your self righteous judgy saskatchewan idiocy”

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“Oh, and there isnt just native crime in saskatoon, theres white crime, white people are fucking corrupt backstabby greedy perverted fucks in saskatchewan, but the racist assholes always cover it up. especially their pedophilia. glad i left that shit hole when i did”

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“Some comment are going a bit hard but I completely agree with the fact the city is boring and ugly.

Saskatoonis don’t all have great personalities but i’m not going to say everyone from there is an asshole.

They also believe their city shines. They always say omg we are so lucky we have 4 seasons well no shit. Whole Canada has 4 seasons and so what you can barely tell what season it is! Literally someone i met someone who thought it was winter in freaking Halloween. Quick summary of seasons in Saskatoon: Winter: Cold, ugly and useless snow, harsh winds, dirt and uglyness. Spring: Muddy, rainy and even more ugly with no good plants growing literally just ugly plants growing on their own. Summer: Dry polluted and eveeyrhing too basic and green no good flowers just a boring city with a boring summer but its the best season here. Fall: Wind, unstable weather. Icy roads.

The downtown looks ugly af! Their tallest tower is 79 meters lol. That sucks for a 200,000 populated city that absolutely has no historic monument for it not get built. The towers look so old and weird too. I have always liked downtowns and take this word for granted Saskatoon has had the worst downtown and belive me not trying to brag but i have visited quite bit of places and Saskatoon has had the worst downtown out of all of em.

The hospitals are ugly af u feel like you are living in India or something. Packed, old, smelly and a big waiting time. I’ve been to the hospital and most people have freaking broke their back or something cause they too lazy to do shit other than watching their lame ass riders team lose.

Worst than all these is entertainment in the city. I know alot of people just decide to move to that city after visiting it but Saskatoon and the whole Saskatchewan offers not touristic/entertaining places and still they ditch about not getting a bigger population. Literally the best place they have is these lakes they go to like every week of summer which are again ugly, lame and not modern! Not to forget mosquitoes…

This city has potentials but unfortunately people here are too close minded and curiousless people who just live their bring ass life and don’t do exciting shit. If the city cleaned up its ugliness and mudds specially in spring and planned some colorfull flowers, modernized the city stopped expanding so fucking much and just make the their old shitty neighbourhoods a bit nicer and stopped copying the freaking American life stlye oh and also removed the stupid farms that pump up everywhere and fixes the roads and added cool places this city could be like Calgary right now it’s comparable to Afghanistan’s capital city.”

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“The people here aren’t nice. They are rude, and if you disagree with anything anyone says, the response is ‘If you don’t like it, leave’. I gladly will.

There is nothing to do here but drink and watch some crappy football team. There is no culture, everyone just meanders along with no real direction and are nasty as hell.

They can’t drive, like to think that they and Saskatoon are God’s gift. To what I have yet to discover and don’t think I ever will. Small town Hicksville that is about 50 years behind the rest of the world. Get your heads out of your asses, change your redneck, racist ways and join the rest of the planet. Most pathetic place ever.”

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“Omg this comment thread is making my day! I moved to saskatoon for graduate school, and it has been the worst city I’ve ever lived in! The school was small minded, stressful and acted like what we were talking about was so important – it wasnt. It was bullshit liberal propaganda and I come from Ontario. The university I went to out west for my bachelors makes university of Saskatchewan look like kindergarten. It was shocking. I developed bad anxiety living in saskatoon and let me tell you why! Not only the stressful vibe in the university for no apparent reason (probably because the profs couldn’t get a job anywhere else, so they try to explain their own existence by bullying students which would be considered disgusting at another university) but also because of the social life.

DONT MOVE HERE. nobody will be able to maintain eye contact with you, you won’t make any friends. I lived here for two years and I don’t have a sinhle girlfriend. I got a boyfriend right when I moved here (not surprising if you take a look around at the women) and it morphed into a domestic violence situation. I seriously thought men knew not to hit and push around women anymore, as everywhere else in Canada it’s known that its against the law. Anyways I got in over my head and eventually escaped that relationship. All his friends were red neck introverts who excluded me at social gatherings, and all their girlfriends couldn’t talk to me. This place is seriously fucked. I lived near Toronto and Edmonton and saskatoon is the anus of Canada. It finally occurred to me to just screw my lease and move somewhere else. I haven’t been able to find a job… Any job… For four months. I can’t stand the horrid weather here its just too damn cold, and this is coming from an edmontonian. Sorry to rant! But this place ALMOSY broke my spirit. I just count my lucky stars I didn’t get knocked up while here, and I’m lucky to come from somewhere civilized to know this isn’t normal. It isnt normal to not have any friends or have people want to make connections with you. In Edmonton you make friends easily and same with Toronto. I honestly hate saskatoon. I had such high hopes! Its a shit hole. Don’t even get my started on the drivers, it’s really weird. Anyways if you’re thinking of coming to the university here DONT. Even when I held a job as a waitress at two different places, nobody would make eye contact with me. This place is asleep. Thanks for all the other comments, I was starting to question my own sanity.”

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“Yes I agree! Living in other parts of Canada, moving here I was shocked. I don’t know how anyone can outwardly state they hate natives. How can you hate a certain race? In other cities in Canada, at least the civilized ones it’s understood that racism towards natives is disgusting.

Not here. The white people proudly discriminate agsinst them. It broke my heart, they don’t deserve that.”

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“I lived in Saskatoon for years and I hated it and still hate it. The cops are pricks they would rather give you a ticket for window tint then get off there lazy asses and go after the punks that kept breaking into my truck six break ins in three years not one arrest. I even caught the one punk red handed and made him stay till the cops showed up and they let him go and told him not to do it again. I had the prick on camera breaking into the truck and the city cops didn’t do nothing they actually said they felt sorry for him cause iguess he told the Saskatoon police he was scared of me and felt threaten of me and seen my support be the bridge city boys shirt and assumes I was a gangster. I’m not a gangster I do support the Bridge City Boys but that don’t make me a gangster next thing I know I’m in handcuffs and being padded down and being questioned about drugs. Well what the fuck I work a full-time job I don’t do drugs I’m a legit blue collar guy and I simply called the Saskatoon police cause some low life is breaking into my truck then I’m in handcuffs and the punk crook walks wtf fuck the Saskatoon police bunch pricks.”

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“Wow ok, I think perhaps some of you didn’t give Saskatoon a chance. No it’s not for everyone. I don’t agree there is nothing to do especially if you are into extreme sports. Just don’t expect to win any trophies the competition is very experienced.

For beginners there is burping on the bus and lighting farts on fire. Grade 8s and their super big gulps can blow the rear doors open without even trying. Not bad for guys barely old enough to vote. Lighting farts on fire is more of a home activity, yes I know the mall seems like the obvious place but the security guards work in pairs and with all the cheap mall food they don’t even need a lighter.

Moving on to driving, some of you just don’t recognize talent when you see it. My favorite is entering a busy street from just about any side road stop sign or not. You have to wait until the approaching traffic gets close then just pull out without making eye contact. That is why we don’t make eye contact we are honing our talents for the next trip behind the wheel.

You people in Toronto or Vancouver that think you are so cool are going to love this next one. We figured out how to make fire. Evolved or what? Once again you will be going up against the best of the best. All you need is a pit in your back yard, some wet wood and a can of gas. FOOMP!! That should take care of any facial hair that got missed lighting farts on fire.

You think you can take the muffler of your dodge truck get a dog that barks and howls day and night and compete guys good luck. Their exploits are legendary. They figured out wind speed and direction, how many leaves to add and when. Hell they can hospitalize the asthmatic neighbor kids in no time flat. Try that in Vancouver or Toronto and they will throw your ass in jail.

That covers most of the solo activities but I have to say even I was taken aback by STD guy. This guy is 2 for 2 practicing unsafe sex. My first thought was did he tell the second girl what happened with the first girl? I best leave that one alone I am only assuming he was picking up girls and not working the lanes behind downtown hotels.”

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“I actually feel like I have ptsd from living here. My friend back home reminded me “I can just get in my car and go” and this place is such a soul sucking, low vibe hick town that I was actually brainwashed to forget I could leave. I came here for graduate school and was silenced in the classroom, surrounded by absolute morons, and was completely bewildered to learn that the Saskatchewan concept of grad school is to simply repeat what the professors tell you. I’m being serious. No thinking allowed, just copying and repeating the material. I withdrew. I endured a terrible domestic violence relationship for a year. I didn’t know such awful things could happen behind closed doors. All his friends, his family, neighbors knew he physically and emotionally abused me, and nobody offered me any help. They all acted like that was normal, and women are supposed to take it and be quiet. I never felt so alone in my whole life.

Living in saskatoon feels like living on the moon. I escaped that relationship with the clothes on my back. When people say this province is 40 years behind, they aren’t kidding. The way this man treated me was like I was furniture in his house. It terrified me to the bone.

I worked for social services here, and witnessed the horrible racism people have toward natives. I fell in love with my work, and was able to help the communities on 20th Street. But the organization I worked for was toxic as well, hiring their relatives, promoting people who gossiped and had bad work ethic, etc. It blew my mind. Everyone in this city seems like they’re asleep. I don’t understand. It’s like they don’t realise there are other cities beyond this one.

Going to the lakes up north wasn’t anything special, you can get that same experience in the river valley in Edmonton, or walking out your door in Ontario. The restaurants in saskatoon were just horrible, there is no culture here. I can’t even explain the feeling of being around people who you sense don’t care about you at all. It is extremely terrifying. I met people at Starbucks, in the gym, at work, on the LRT in Edmonton who became lifelong friends, inviting me to meet their families, helping me move, coming to get togethers in my home for coffee with other friends. That is not the culture in saskatoon. Visiting and making friends is not what people want to do.

I don’t know how to express what I have witnessed here in saskatoon, I really did think it would be like a smaller Edmonton with prairie culture. You go anywhere in Edmonton, there’s cowboy hats, hippie flowing dresses. I didn’t see anyone who was attractive. I’m sorry I didn’t. You go anywhere else and there are attractive people in different parts of Canada. Some of the native people kept themselves looking nice, but the white people were just plain looking. It was so weird.

I had opportunities to do field work at farms in the middle of nowhere, and the people looked like they had been staring out the window for twenty years. I couldn’t believe it. Just expressionless and pale. I worked down near Regina for a company and the farmers there only wanted a mine if they got a payout, they didn’t even care about their environment.

It blew my mind. No culture. No independent thought. I never made any girlfriends here in 2.5 years. Everywhere else in Canada I lived, I made tens of beloved friends, and enjoyed going for lunch, out to the bars, to their family dinners, etc. The native people I worked with were awesome, and displayed a true sense of humor, strength and practicality. I truly admire saskatoon native people, and I feel sick to my stomach at how racist the white people are to them. Someone commented Saskatchewan is like from the 18th century and I think that’s true. Anyone wanting to move here, just don’t. You won’t built a support network or any friends, and you will truly start to understand that there are parts of Canada that are best left unexplored. What a complete shit hole.”

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“I’ve lived on both coasts and grew up quite open minded and progressive. Having lived in Saskatchewan for 3 years now, I find myself growing bitter, judgemental and racist. Living on alphabet row I’ve noticed how careless, rude and self centered the native population is. The white population are also generally rude and close minded. The ever increasing foreign population makes one feel as if they are not in Canada anymore as multiculturalism is destroying Canadian culture and identity. It is creating a tribalistic collection of enclaves which do not integrate. Saskatoon is a shitty place to live for anyone who doesn’t buy into intersectional politics, self victimization or LGBTQQIAAP politics. I am really not impressed by the social dynamics, etiquette and crime in this city. The social welfare programs are about the only thing Saskatchewan has going for it if you are not a skilled professional. Perhaps this is partly why it is the way it is. If you encounter an attractive woman, she’s probably a golddigger, airhead or prostitute and a majority of other people are frumpy, obese, ugly or queer.

I look forward to eventually moving out of Saskatchewan, perhaps BC as the nature there is revitalizing and beautiful and i’d rather deal with old asian ladies picking cans at 6am than tweaked out natives creating huge garbage messes when rummaging through dumpsters or breaking into mailboxes or drunkenly fighting and creating domestic disturbances.

Like I said, living here is making me bitter, judgemental and racist. I gotta get my ass outta here pronto.”

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saskatchewan is aracist shit hole where white rednecks literally get away with rape murder and child molestation every day bc the entire province is literally run by racist redneck rapists murderers and child molesters. oh and white people have the highest rates of pedophilia but the rampant rabid racism focuses on the native people instead. dont move to saskatchewan if you enjoy life bc its a dead end miserable shit hole. leave it to the child raping crackers who enjoy being child raping crackers

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First, kudos to the author of this blog. Some truths need to be told. Keep it up and to hell with the naysayers.

To those who doubt the authenticity of the rants here based on some posters’ spelling and grammar, do not judge too quickly — Saskatoon is a vortex of idiocy, a long-haul rapist of one’s common sense, decency and ability. Eventually, you too would succumb to raw emotion and the urgency of fast-tracking your thoughts to the keyboard to the screen. Accuracy in stringing together words in perfect form and function would inevitably be sacrificed for speed. Who cares?

I left Stabatoon 30 years ago.

At that time it was a question of do or die, as in, if I stayed I’d die, by suicide most likely, and if I got out I could at least have a shot at doing things that simply weren’t feasible, normal things like thinking, contemplating, dreaming and so on, things that normal people from normal places tend to do.

Having now lived all over Canada and the world, perhaps the saddest thing for me is how little anything — at heart — has changed for the positive in Stabatoon in 30 years. That old negative vortext is still swirling with a vengeance that, for most people, is imperceptible, but for those who can scent the breeze it’s unbearable.

Stabatoon was founded by teetotallers (look it up) from Toronto. That should tell you everything. Intolerance, religiosity, lunacy — all hardwired into the city’s DNA. You’ll never evolve it. Stop trying!

If you hate being there, stop being there. Find a way to get out. The first step is the scariest. But once you make up your mind to leave, you might find that providence goes with you. And with every decision you make to take your life in a more positive direction, something good (or at least better) comes your way when you really need it.

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100% correct. I had the misfortune if moving from TO to Saskatoon as a child and it seemed like I was the only one who knew Saskatoon was a shithole. Went back years later, it’s a better place on all levels. What is Saskatoon missing? A full time professional Opera company for a start.

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(source)

Do Canadians hate Canada?

A selection of comments from Canadians who hate Canada …

“I seriously hate everything about the god-forsaken place. Its crappy American-wannabe stores, its garage sale-like “businesses”. Do you ever wish you were not here.

It’s not necessarily that, [R10], we pay much more in taxes, both sales and income, so that should cover living wages, universal health care, etc. A lot of prices are still based on the assumption that the US Dollar is worth more than the Canadian one, even by 30% or so, which hasn’t been the case in years. Most Canadians are too sheepish as consumers to raise a stink about it but, in the last few years, my partner and I have started telling salespeople that if they are going to charge us that much for an electronics item or a new mattress, we are just going to drive over to Buffalo and buy it there since it would cost less even with customs duties included. You’d be surprised how quickly they change the tune and discounts appear out of thin air. It’s just that the stores are counting on people paying whatever the price tag is without doing any comparison to the prices of same items in the States.”

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“I wouldn’t live there if you offered me free rent. I like sunshine, and warm beaches.”

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“I don’t hate it, but recently I have become impatient with it. Canadians can be openly miserly, cheap with waitstaff etc, which is evidence of a provincialism they seem desperate to cover, and fail at every time. Toronto especially has an inferiority complex that is truly crippling. The PCness of Canadian culture, while well-intentioned, coexists with a censorious, controlling politesse that can be really tedious. I liked it better when it was a bit of a hinterland. Now that media has gone global, that dorky backwoods charm is gone. As a result, there is no charm.”

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“Totally agree, OP. I hate it, the whole country. Would love to get out of here.”

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“Canada is a dull boring place. I lived there for 5 years and am so happy to be out of there. I can’t imagine I will ever set foot in the place again. And don’t get me started on the weather.”

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“The taxes are extremely high.

The cost of housing is outrageous. Canada has one of the most inflated housing markets in the world.

Infrastructure (roads, public facilities) is subpar compared to the States.

As a previous poster mentioned, the PC politesse can be stifling.

The cost of consumer goods is much higher than in the States despite parity with the US dollar.

As a Canadian, I would definitely consider relocating to a northern blue state like Minnesota, Wisconsin, Maine, Washington, etc. if I could get a similar paying job.”

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“I have lived in different places all over Canada. I preferd mostly the small towns that I lived in.

I lived in Toronto for sometime and I hate how thh city tries so hard to be American like. And also about 90% of Canadians are fake. Forget that “politeness” thing, it’s all fake. Trust!”

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“The cost of housing is outrageous. Canada has one of the most inflated housing markets in the world.”
This is true.

“And also about 90% of Canadians are fake”
This is true, too. It’s really hard if you are one of the 10% that is not fake.”

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“They DO have an inferiority complex. Especially the people who live in Ontario, Alberta and BC (i.e. Toronto, Calgary, Vancouver). They have no idea how they sound.”

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“We pay a relatively high cost in taxes relative to services in the US.”

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“To refute some of [R28]’s claims:

The Conference Board of Canada last week released a report highlighting the earnings dilemma. The report gives Canada a “C” on income per capita, compared to a U.S. “B” grade. That is, our income per capita is $36,138; it’s $43,025 south of the border — a difference of nearly $7,000. ________

Last year, a survey by Bank of Montreal on consumer goods found that domestic retail prices are about 14 per cent higher than those in the U.S.

The report pointed to some wide price gaps [particularly] in the auto industry. A car buyer in Oshawa could be at a dealership within walking distance of the factory where the Chevrolet Camaro was assembled and face a list price almost $5,000 greater than the list price of the Camaro in Hawaii.

Overall, price disparities are pinching retailers in this country. After Ottawa loosened its duty-free rules last June, Canadians began to flock across the border in record numbers: Overnight travel to the United States hit 950,000 in September, the highest number since Statistics Canada began record-keeping in 1972.”

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“Um, [R27], Basketball was invented in Springfield, Massachusetts. I don’t know where you got the idea that basketball was Canadian.

However, I do acknowledge that the inventor was Canadian-American.”

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“I would argue that any difference in income for Canadian families is lost in the wash with the significantly higher cost of consumer goods and insane housing prices in Canada.

For the record – I do like living in Canada, but I dislike the sanctimony and superiorness of some Canadians (especially when comparing themselves to Americans). Our country has its share of problems however different than those in the States.”

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“Left Canada 15 years ago… moved back about 4 years ago, and realized that I didn’t really like Canadians much any more. The anti-American sentiment got old really fast – Canadians LOVE to complain about the U.S. – they define themselves as NOT American… Not really much of an identity…

And the supposed pro-Gay Canadians are only that way as long as they don’t actually see any actual Gay people doing things horrifying like holding hands… People are still gaybashed in Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal… In fact, two brothers who beat the crap out of two Gay guys in Vancouver while they called them all kinds of homophobic slurs, were just found NOT guilty.

The cost of living is astronomical… Buying food can cost an arm and a leg…

The only plus I’ll give to Canada is the health care – way better than the system in the US… But not enough to keep me there… Moved back to California after a year in Canada….”

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“London Ontario is the anti-gay center of Canada. Their mayor Diane Haskall, fought against public space for gay events for years until she went down to work for the US Republican party. Their chief of police, Julian Fantino, used to conduct anti-gay witch hunts in the city. Northern London, around Ilderton, is the worst.”

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“Canadian shops” don’t really exist. The stores in Canada are basically American stores. Same American stores. And all full of stuff made in China.”

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“Canada’s National Heath service is already over burdened and the highways and city infrastructures are crumbling.

Canada DOES NOT NEED MORE PEOPLE.

Like the rest of the G7, they need to properly provide for the ones they already have.”

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“Canada today is not the Canada of yesterday people loved so much.”

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“Every time I see a Canadian home show like “Love It or List It” I’m reminded how ugly housing is in Toronto.”

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“I don’t think Americans think about Canada that much. But if you go on any Canadian website, you’ll find that Canadians think quite a bit about Americans. And it’s mostly negative stuff.”

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“[R107] that’s a laughable comment. If Canadians really didn’t care about Americans’ opinions, they wouldn’t keep ripping off our culture. At least 75% of current Canadian “culture”, whether it tv, film, music, fashion/style, new food ideas, slang speech is actually American. I have read plenty of hateful comments by Canadians but then when you look at their profiles they’ll be filled with American culture.

Then there are the nice Canadians who either want to be American, or who have no problem admitting that their country rips off American ideas time and time again.”

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“It’s a dull, passionless country. Stable, boring, safe, sterile. Lacks an identity, lacks a soul.”

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“Wannabe Americans and talentless Bieber and Drake are examples of “how amazing” Canada is…

[R120] if Canadians are so smart, why do they copy Americans so much? Why can’t you guys come up with your own stuff? When you turn on a tv or listen to the radio, it’s almost all American pop culture you see and hear.”

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“I agree, [R122]
And Canada appears to be losing whatever charm or heart that it had.
The people are actually pretty cold and can be mean, too.”

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“[R137] face it-Canadians are just fascinated with American culture and basically act like Americans. Most of them just don’t admit it. You can stay mad, pressed and bothered all you like and try twisting it, but it’s the truth and you know Canadians bend over for American culture time and time again.”

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“[R149] is a typical Brit who doesn’t know what he’s talking about but has formed an opinion anyway.

You clearly don’t know enough Canadians, or have not read enough Canadian posts online. Many of them try to proclaim how much better Canada is than the US. They’re obsessed with that notion despite copying the US in almost every way possible.”

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“im not a canadian but i have lived there a few years. and yes, definitely the us is by far a superior country to live in. for one thing, canada is way more racist than the usa, but there is so much denial about it, its like visiting a pervert uncle who is a pedophile and everyone knows it, but no one ever calls him on it. for another, canada is alike a parallel universe of america only its cheap (the quality of goods that is, since everything in canada is made in china), canadians dont know shit about good customer service, they are ignorant about the world in general and think everything they hear in the news about the world is actually the way things are. the majority of them have never been anywhere but still have a pompous self righteous attitude about themselves and their shithole country….in short, canada is like a cheap made in china imitation of the usa. i dont even know why the us even bothers with canada, we should just invade and get it over with since “canada” is really just uncle sam’s mini-me, but nowhere near as cool or bad ass.”

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“When was the last time someone started a thread saying how fabulous the US is?”

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“I think you’ve got it reversed. It’s the Canadians who are obsessed with America. And they’re quite bitter. They should be happy. They’re like the lamprey eel that gets to ride along on the back of the Great White Shark.”

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“Some Canuckians seem to think they know what America is like based solely on tv shows, movies and negative news. The ones who actually come here for shopping and vacation always love it.

In Canucka, most of the films, tv shows and music people are into come from the US and then the rest are Canuckian and British.

Canucka barely has a culture of its own yet they seem to think they’re better than everyone else.”

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“[R151] is correct about the racism and denial of it. People are especially racist towards Native Canadians & Asians. They’re also very Classicist.”

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“(143) You asked what American culture is besides hamburger meat and guns.

Last time I checked, Canada didn’t create Abstract Expressionism, Jazz, Rock n Roll, Hip Hop, Rap. It didn’t produce Emily Dickinson, Melville, Faulkner, Harper Lee. It didn’t produce Martin Scorcese. It doesn’t have the largest Art museum in the Western Hemisphere (the US does, its called the Met, dear.) Toronto is in no way shape or form comparable to NYC. Its very nice, but it is not on the level of a NY, Paris or Rome.

I used to like Canadians, but then I realized after listening to many of them that they truly believe that being Canadian makes them intrinsically superior to Americans, even if an American is smart, sensitive and liberal. Its bizarre and kind of pathetic.

When Canadians talk about culture, they often mention health insurance. While your social system is lovely, and I admire it very much and hope for the same here, I don’t think of health insurance when I think of cultural output.

But its a wasted argument because I feel most Canadians like to say we have no culture… all the while listening to the music that originated in OUR country.

PS: MANY countries other than Canada have national Universal health coverage. You are not unique or special because of this.”

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“Per 132, Canadians apparently “dominate” the US film/tv industry.
there are some seriously delusional people on this thread.”

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“Yup. I lived in the US for many years but was forced to come back and I HATE it. If I never lived in the US I would never have known how good and easy life could be and how much nicer and more positive people are. In Canada, everyone is rooting for you to fail only so they don’t look bad in comparison. I HAAAATE living here! The free health care is definitely NOT worth it. I wish I could get out but I’m stuck.”

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“White Canadians are nice to other white Canadians. Non white Canadians like Natives or Blacks? Not so much.”

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“Canada is so overrated.”

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“Yeah, I hate Canada as a Canadian. Everyone’s such a phony here. They put on a fake, Stepforder smile that makes you want to tear it off their faces. The services around here are shit. For example, the corporations make you pay double the amount to get at least a mediocre internet speed. But who could blame them? They’re all bent down to submit to the system by chanting their ‘Canada is the best country in the world’ bullshit. The job market’s depressing. The government’s corrupt to the core, going in so far as much as lying to the 250,000 immigrants every year about the so-called ‘job opportunities.’ Free health care, my ass. The government squeeze money out of Canadians through extreme taxation and keep it for themselves instead of using it right for the public. I’ve had a friend who died right next to me from chest pain (turned out to be some kind of heart problem), and we were waiting for the doctor for about an hour. Why the fuck wasn’t the hospital wasn’t sued? I got no fucking clue. And now, since the government supposedly feels guilty for what they’ve done to the Natives and the handicapped people, they all get free scholarships and university education just for being Natives and handicapped. Fucking shit, right? Liberalism is the new Conservatism around here. Everything about Canada is shit, I tell you. It’s S-H-I-T.”

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“I’m Canadian and I HATE CANADA!!!!!!!

What an arrogant frozen shithole.

I’m from Toronto and was raised to hate Quebec but I realized very recently that although they can be annoying, they are the only culture we have.

Don’t get me wrong, Quebec is a frozen shithole just like the rest of Canada but it’s a more interesting shithole. Canada’s a pile of crap but Quebec’s crap has a little almond in it… a little extra something.

No wonder they wanted to separate. We’re so fucking boring we gave them fantasies of separation. Would they have wanted to leave if they had been part of a far more culturally interesting country like the U.S? Probably not. They’d be like Lousianna today. But they’re stuck with old grandpa Canada who wears sweatpants and goes to bed at 7p.m

I hate this fucking stepford wife country.

We’re so dull, people want to leave lol.

Americans have their problems but they’re fun people! Even their problems are more interesting than ours!

Man, I spent some time in Florida, California, Las Vegas, New York, I love it all.

There’s an energy to the U.S that you don’t find in Canada.

Canada has no soul. It’s all about fake politeness but they’re all secretly bitter and filled with hate and jealousy towards the U.S.

Canadians bash the U.S constantly. If you don’t like Americans then get rid of American stores and products. What would Canada look like then? Like nothing and it’s nothingness would be sucked into a black hole and disappear foever.

I’ve traveled all over the world and even poor countries have more personality and more culture than Canad’eh.

Canada defines itself by what it isn’t (not American) instead of by what it is and that’s because it’s nothing at all.”

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“Yes I do, I wish I was in the states every minute of every day”

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“There is NO intellectual life in Canada. A little bit in Montreal, but that is it. It’s just buy a house, get a big vehicle, eat, drink, smoke pot. You can’t have an intellectual conversation and you can’t have fun.”

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“[R197] is correct. Boring people that worship money. Zero personality or sex appeal. No culture.”

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“Sorry [R211] and [R212] but Canada has always been boring.”

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“I know it has always been boring, but now it is aggressively stupid, crude and boring”

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“Yes I hate Crapnada.”

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“I hate a lot of things about it. I like the healthcare and safety nets for poor people. Other than that I’m not a fan.”

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“Canada is a ugly, corrupt country where health care is inferior and yet, we pay 70% of our income into some kind of taxes. Justice is a global joke with the criminals from other countries running the borders to get into the country. The government doesn’t even know how many illegals there are in the country..but they were quick to let in 500 Tamil Warriors..they have stocked the country with people born in revolution and raised in blood. Our leaders, one is a crook, one is a junkie.. what kind of choice is that come vote time? Right now Canada is in a dictatorship and the people are paying dearly for that. That is..the ones who are trapped here. Last year 1.8 million Canadians got out. The actual land mass is so beautiful..with a poisonous fungus living on it in Ottawa”

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“This country is a fucking joke!!! Government steals from us so fucking immigrants can come here poor and get everything handed to them including near free stores of their choosing!! Fuck you Canada!!!!!!”

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“I hate being a Canadian. I would gladly and without hesitation denounce my Canadian citizenship to get an American citizenship.”

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“I loathe this country, always focusing on the US and their issues instead of fixing our own problems. The only people who would dare say they like Canada are either immigrants of someone who has never seen anything else. Disgusting, revolting country.”

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“The Alberta mentality puts money before humanity. I really regret moving to Alberta and Canada as a whole. All it has got going for it is equal marriage rights and the chance of buying land for cheaper than in Europe. The mentality is cold, two faced and inhuman. Apparently the East coasters and Ontarians have a better mentality.I have lived in a few countries and Canada is one of my least favourite. I cannot wait to leave.”

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“TAXES ARE TERRIBLE, WORK FOR 40 YEARS TRY TO RETIRE, THEY MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE. YOU WOULD THINK A COUNTRY THAT YOU PAID TOP TAXES TO ALL YOUR LIFE WOULD BE THERE IN YOUR RETIREMENT YEARS. NOT THIS HOLE.”

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“Last time I visited Canada(and the last time I will EVER visit Canada) the people (especially waitstaff) were terse and bitchy, the food was insipid,,poorly prepared and was expensive as hell. And they seemed to have a particular animus toward Americans despite the fact I don’t think I was brash or offensive in any way.

I don’t get why anyone would spend that much $$$ just to live in such a cold,gray,rainy,depressing environment.

I’ll bet the suicide rates are high”

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“[R253] is right Canadians have an irrational hatred for Americans.

they’re insecure and bitter shrugs

how would you feel if almost every aspect of your culture came from another country? and that you only chased trends from said country?

Canuckians aren’t creative or interesting enough to come up with their own ideas apparently.

It makes them feel better to try and insult the culture from which they take and borrow.”

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“This is a stupid country..always has been and probably always will be… People are right, we pay more than our fair share for the “free” healthcare which now runs like an American insurance company….and you will wait… It is cold taxes are too high and most people save their money to get the hell out on a vacation… Way too expensive to live here…”

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“I have always hated living in Canada..it is too confining…there is no where good to move to. If you live in the us, you have a vast area to choose from. Canadians do not.. We are stuck in a hell hole and anybody that can get out does….so we are left with those that don’t pay taxes..because they have it easier than the taxpayer. Housing is way too overvalued and unaffordable..unless of course it is provided to you for free..( the non taxpayer). Everything is overpriced. It doesn’t matter what government is in..they take care of themselves ..much like anywhere else…but you would think they would try harder here because they take a to. In taxes. Roads are crap and outdated..healthcare is nothing to be proud of..the country is embarrassing…

I wish we were just one country..US and Canada..you could put a gate around Canada and keep all the welfare and all the prisoners here…that would put the country to good use…”

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“Yeah [R264], but the US is still fun. I’ve been to New York, Las Vegas, Miami and Arizona many times and love it and just came back from visiting a friend in California and it was awesome. There’s no awesome place in Canada. It’s boring as hell most of the time.

Canada looks good on paper but actually living here is another story.”

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“That’s true, [R261], about how expensive it’s become. I live on the frozen prairies, and we have some of the highest taxes (provincial and property), as well as some of the highest housing costs. I mean, there’s no reason for it to be that expensive here – who the hell would want to live here?”

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“It’s funny a lot of people are just comparing Canada to America in this discussion. I’ve lived in both countries, they both suck. Canada for way different reasons, mostly the generally unaffordable living standards and the insane amount of bureaucracy. And the weather…. dear god the weather. Canada is what people thought Hell was before Dante’s inferno. For the past five years every winter has been colder and longer than the last, I can’t take it any more. If you want to leave check out Argentina or Costa Rica or Uruguay. Warm, friendly, cheap countries that are relatively easy to emigrate to. OH, and the Seychelles, if you’re a dude. M2F ratio is unreal. ;)”

Quotes from: https://www.datalounge.com/thread/12625732-canadians-do-you-hate-canada-

Winnipeg rants (part two)

“I have lived all over the country and Winnipeg is by far the worst place to live in this great country. This is why:

-Long very cold winters- harshest in Canada

-Violent and very high crime

-Very inefficient traffic system- built for the horse and carriage

-Run down, very unattractive and unproductive downtown

-Poor economy for higher paying jobs

-Terrible city for the young and the single

-Hot muggy amd mosquito infested summers

-Very little to do (compared to other cities, especially in the winter.

-Difficult city for newcommers to fit in- hard to make friends if you did not grow up here

-Too many trains that impede traffic (Waverly etc)

This city is only remotely tolerable if you grew up here. The only thing it has going for it is it is cheap and perhaps has a slow pace of life.

As a whole this is Canada’s biggest hellhole. period..”

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“I agree with much of what you ahve said. I have lived here for 5 years and I still can’t stand the winters. It is tough to get to know people here. This city is a bad place to live, especially if you are not from here.”

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“I think that you are being generous, this city is a world class hell hole!! It is the coldest of any city over 500K on earth. It is crime ridden, there is very little future here for new people”

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“This is an awful city if you compare it to other cities in the country. Out of all the cities over 100,000 it has the harshest winters as it is very cold and very windy. It is consistently in the top 3 year after year in crime rate. It is very difficult to get a job over 40K a year unless you know someone. This city is also more difficult than most to meet new people because everyone has been here forever and is not overly enthused to admit someone into their life.

The only positive is that this city is cheap, but that is partly proof of what I am saying above. Cities are cheap or expensive for a reason. Winnipeg is cheap because this is a hellhole that no one wants to move to. Calgary is expensive because of the location, economy, and somewhat the climate.

This city is bad news for the newcommer, period.”

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“Isn’t that Grumpy guy a stupid asshole? He is so dilusional in his attitude about Winnipeg. He can’t admit that this city is worse than most in Canada. This city has very little going for it, especially for newcommers. It is o.k for someone to say that they like winnipeg because they grew up here and they have alot of friends and connections and perhaps it is cheap. Grumpy tries to sell people on the merits of the city itself and that my friend is stupid. Grumpy needs to wake up and do a reality check.”

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“winnipeg really is generally an unfreindly, self-centered,violent place. I’ve been living here since birth and cant really say I have been happy here ever.”

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“Winnipeg is renowned for its friendly people”
You are kidding right, the rest of the country regard winnipeggers as mean(dollar stores get mentioned a lot) and a bit weird.

So the consensus I am getting from east coast to west (yeah I do a fair bit of travelling at the moment)is that you are a self centred group of weirdo,s

Before the miserable old man starts fantasising about how wonderful winnipeg is again and advising people to leave, I am leaving before xmas, I will not be back.
Anyone reading this forum that is thinking of moving here, don,t. There are far better places in Canada”

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“We have been here nearly a year and I agree with most things that have been said.
I have made a couple of friends, but this city is more difficult to integrate into than other places I have lived.

People are very self centred in my opinion. One of the first winnipeggers I talked to described this city as a “tired old town” and advised me to take my family to BC. Not a good first impression

This as since been reinforced by quite a few others.
Our biggest problem is with young children there is very little to do in the winter.”

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“Winnipeg sucks.

I’ve been here 7 years, and in my experience Winnipeggers are polite, but not friendly (especially women). It takes 2 to 3 years for a Winnipeger to warm up enough to befriend you and go beyond small talk. I’ve just given up.

I’ve been to “socials” and events where no one would talk to me, because I didn’t show up with someone they knew. And don’t even try to pick up a conversation, because all you’ll get is a “Who are you?” look and some yes/no answers.

I have only 2 friends here. On is an immigrant as myself, who has had the exact same experience with “Friendly” Manitoba. She’s lived all over the world, and she says by far Winnipeg is the worst place to make friends she has encountered (she can’t wait to move). My other friend is from work (it took two years of seeing me everyday for her to start going out to lunch with me).

If you think of moving here, you’d better know some people, or you’ll be very lonely. If you are introduced to people through friends, you might do ok.

For those Winnipeggers defending their home town, let me ask you: When was the last time you made a new friend (not introduced to you by another friend)?”

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“Not being able to Make friends is not the only reason this city sucks. The winters are awful, the city is boring, and it is ugly as hell. The crime rate is terrible as well.”

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“Mr Freeze I applaud you. You said it all. We moved here two years ago and are leaving in April. Can’t wait to get out of this stinking, retarded, frozen wasteland. The only thing Winnipeg has going for it is CITI FM.”

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“The only thing great about this city is that everywhere else seems like a vacation. I was in Regina last year and it was more pleasant than Winnipeg.”

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I have heard countless things good or bad about Winnipeg (mostly bad). I can take or leave most of the so-called strengths of this city.

The one thing that supercedes activities in this city is the climate. I know there is little we can do to change it, but it is a huge factor in the comfort and entertainment of Winnipeggers.

The weather here is uncomfortable or unlivable 4.5 to 6 months of the year. How much fun is it to live here when you are couped up inside 40% of the year. Having decent weather to enjoy life with family or friends is very important. This is an element that is severely lacking in this city and perhaps Saskatoon or Regina.
I also feel the summers are more uncomfortable here because of the mosquitos and wood ticks.”

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“Yes, its a crime ridden, run down, ice covered, desolate shit hole with a rapidly decaying infrastructure and close to nothing worthwhile. In other words, its pretty much the Detroit of Canada. Ive lived here most of my life and somehow always come back. Home is home.”

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“Here I thought the whole problem with rat infested Winnipeg was the Damn Mosquitoes & black flies in the spring, summer and fall.

Darlene: Very little you said here makes Winnipeg special. In fact this is a very ordinary place at best. Almost all Canadian cities have great people and spirit. Most cities have real important sports teams (more than the bombers) such as the Flames. Senators, Leafs, Blue Jays etc). You think that Wpg has great parks- it is not a patch on Fish Creek in Calgary, or Stanley Park in Vancouver.

Most cities in Canada have great research interests, better than wpg. Manitoba has never been ranked particularly high for its education or healthcare systems. Winnipeg does have bad traffic in the south end and lots of trains that slow everything up.

Winnipeg is virtually unliveable 30-40% of the year due to the cold weather and wind. It consistently ranks as one of the 3 most dangerous cities in Canada. It is also a tough market to find good jobs, especially if you are a new commer.It has an ugly unproductive downtown. This city will never change.

Look at the recent poll that ranked Calgary #1 and Wpg # 19. This was an unbiased well rounded poll that clearly demonstrated that wpg is a poor place to live, especially for newcommers. All this city is is Cheap and that partially proves the point. Places are expensive or cheap for a reason.”

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“Most cities in canada are cultured even “Redneck” Calgary. Winnipeg lags behind in many services including transportation, education, and health. Lake Winnipeg and Manitoba are worthless as they are muddy and ugly. The Whiteshell and lake of the woods which is quite nice is 2-3 hours away.

Explain Winnipeg being ranked 19th out of 25? It had the worst ranking out of all the larger cities in Canada. Winnipeg is too cold to live almost 40% of the year. It is crime ridden, poor and has no future for young people or new commers.

It is cheap for a reason. I am leaving within the next few months. Even Regina seems better these days.”

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“Look at the winter weather. Look at the Crime rate. Look at the decaying native run down town. Look at the number of good jobs. Look at the hot infested mosquito run summers. I can keep going… This is Canada’s biggest hellhole!!!”

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“This city is Canada’s biggest shithole!! I have lived everywhere including Regina. Right now I’d take Regina because at least it has a good economy. Winnipeg is only cheap, that’s it!! Look around it is not hard to figure out why.”

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“I hate Winnipeg! I have been here 7 months and I can without a doubt say this is the biggest shithole that I have ever seen.

I was forced to come here because my wife is helping to look after her sick father. There are hardly any good jobs, I am stuck working at Sobey’s for $9/hr. We are going into debt.

I have never seen a city with less to do, particularly in the winter. My daughter is so damn bored and I am having difficulty entertaining her. I have never seen a more depressing life sucking shithole of a place in my entire life.

Many people who live here seem to love it. Are you guys brain dead or something?? Almost half the year the weather is to rotten to do anything. Most of the city is dirty, run down, crime ridden and very depressing. It is like a Canadian version of Detroit.

Yes, I will be leaving back to Ontario where the weather is better, better jobs, and far more to do.”

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“Couldn’t have said it better myself!! I can safely say that Regina is a better city because at least there are a good number of $15/hr + jobs. How pathetic is that Regina is better than here. That is sad”

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“The question is how Winnipeg stacks up to other cities in Canada, not inferior or third world countries. All most all cities in Canada have what you are describing. This city does have somethings to do for some people, but it falls behind other cities in Canada big time.

Many immigrants come here and think it is great compared to their homeland and perhaps that is true, but this is a vastly inferior city compared to other places in Canada. I have lived all over North America and I can say with experience that this is by far the worst place that I have lived.

The climate here is awful, the economy is marginal,the city is dirty and crime ridden, and there is definitely less here than somewhere like Calgary, Toronto, Vancouver etc.

You must not be well travelled in Canada or else you would better appreciate what I am saying”

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“It is an awful City to live in….it is always 5 to 10 years behind…it lacks creativity/ imagination and risk……..it seeks to lower the bar for ambition

Kind of a welfare City………it Prides itself as a Have Not city in a Have Not Province…

Like a trained seal…looking for a FREE meal….”

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“Did you hear? Winnipeg was given another honor.

It has more natives than any city in Canada. A whopping 10%. This isa huge part of the crime problems in the city. A few years ago the city let a whole heap of them in. Now we are paying for it.

Lower the native population and the crime will drop. But this is just a small part of the problem. The city has major problems with economy, downtown decay, health/education etc. The mayor said this city was a mess. If he says this it must be an understatement”

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“This city is too poor and unproductive to support an NHL team. If the Richardson’s or Asper’s can’t afford to buy one who can? This city is full of natives and poor white trash. It will always be this way. The city is not like Calgary or maybe Edmonton- cities with futures.”

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“Get rid of all the natives for starters. They create much of the crime issues in the city. There also needs to be more here to create jobs, I mean good $20/hr + jobs not the $8-11 hour white trash work most people here do. The city needs to clean up big time. I think that about 70% of the buildings, houses etc in the inner city need extensive work or need to be knocked down. Winnipeggers need to know the difference between old character buildings and run down dirty ratholes. Wpg has more of the latter…”

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“Calgary stands out all over the place and gives the whole world the impression that it is important and happening. Winnipeg is barely known around Canada. Most Canadians laugh at Winnipeg about the cold weather, crime, natives, and being rather boring. Winnipeg used to be better in the 60’s when it seemed to be an up and coming place. This is clearly an old dying has been town with few redeeming features.”

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“Winnipeg would be a great place to live if we got rid of our Aboriginals. Maybe we can give them Selkirk in exchange for a promise of never entering the city limits!

Not just the natives. Trade our weather with California. Trade our economy and future with Calgary. Trade location with Vancouver, Victoria or Calgary. Trade the downtown area and city infrasture with Calgary. Maybe then Winnipeg would be great. For now it is a pathetic worthless pile of junk.”

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“You are bang on here. Those two people that love Winnipeg likely do not know much of what is out there. If they think Winnipeg could beat Calgary in a head to head comparison they are freakin’ Morons. Winnipeg only has cheap housing on Calgary and maybe traffic. Calgary wins on the other 2 million categories. It is o.k to like it because of family and growing up here, but the city really is a shithole!!!!”

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“There is a native problem as many from the reserves are not able to adjust to the city. Yes, a high proportion of them end up in jail. Rather than saying get rid of them, though, which sounds a bit like Hitler, what can we do to remedy the situation? After all, we whites contributed to the problem by displacing them, then abusing them in Residential Schools, plying them with alcohol, putting them on Reserves and giving them millions in handouts.”

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“Great thread. It really is a horrible place. Cold, depressing, anyone with half a brain gets out while they can. The only people who seem to like it are the people born there who don’t know anything else”

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“This city is a life sucking shithole isn’t it? My wife dragged me here 7 years ago because her family is here. I am considering divorce because myself and my 3 daughters (9,12, &16) all hate it here. My wife seems to care more about her parents and brother than us.”

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“What I love about Winnipeg.

Really nice warm people.

You mean the ones you have known all through high school? The same ones that never made anything of themselves like you. Of course you like them. Unmotivated people and the poor tend to cling to each other for support.

Salisbury House and Gondola Pizza. You just have to grow up with them to know what I mean.

I know what you mean. Expand your horizons buddy. The food at both places are crap. You only like them because the food is cheap. You eat cheap unhealthy food because you don’t have the education to afford a decent living and therefore have to resort by eating in fast food places. How about eating an Organic apple once in awhile? Of course, try finding an Organic grocery store around Winnipeg!

Great people. Mostly.

Yeah, you covered this one. You only mentioned two things and you’re already duplicating your points.

Smog free.

Try January and breathe in all the exhaust fumes. Another reason why Winnipeg doesn’t have no smog is because it has NO industry. You have to grow as a city to get big city problems.

No traffic jams. Well, only a few. Not worth mentioning really.

Even less if the city would ever adopt a mass transit system; its embarrassing that Winnipeg is the only major city in Canada that doesn’t even have one. No traffic jams equals no cars, no cars equals no people, no people equals no grow. Enough said.

The Winnipeg Jets.

This is the most popular non-existent sports franchises known to man.
Your using a hockey teams that packed up and left the city an example of why you like Winnipeg? Dear God, you forgot to mention Archie and his Friends as well.

Best Spring-Summer-Fall in the whole world. And winter is “challenging”.

Winter should be against the law. Spring is brown and once the snow has melted and the ice has thawed is when you see Winnipeg at its best: the stench of garbage overflowing in the streets and the numerous shopping carts scattered all over the city. The shopping cart = Winnipeg’s number one mode of transportation. Summer? You mean when it’s 30 degrees and the place is infested with mosquitoes? Or is it the wasps? or the canker worms? or the black flies? or the …..

A gud edumacation sistem. Real afordabble-like too.

I’m not going to comment on this one. The fact that you are commenting on Winnipeg’s educational system and then you spell….oh forget it. Let me guess…GED right? Community College?

Excellent people. Real easy to meet.

Third time must be the charm right?

Very affordable real estate. It has taken off a bit in the last 3 or 4 years, but still a good bargain can be found.

The reason it is a bargain can you summed up by simple economics. No demand = cheap prices. No demand = no growth.

Excellent neighborhoods.

You mean the upscale neighborhoods like Windsor Park, Tyndall Park? Garden City? The Maples? How about owning a nice family home on the corner of Spence and Broadway or perhaps Balmoral? You mean the lifeless cookie cutter sub-divisions like Fort Richmond? Island Lakes?

Oh, I should add that the people of Winnipeg are terrific.

4 posts = your an idiot and have just proved a point that so many people have already known: Winnipeg is a shit hole. Plain and simple. Take off your rose colored glass Polly and get a bloody dose of reality. Winnipeg sucks.”

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“That the Winnipeg “vision” for you in a nutshell. Winnipeg. We don’t have any LRT system, no freeways, the highest crime rate, and the colest winters known to man. But we do have an indoor waterpark?!?”

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“well its colder then hell.. I tell you what was i thinking moving here..women here hare cheap.. but then so is everything else in this coupon city.. hey , is that the value village special?? Wait investors are waiting and watching .. first the liquor commision has no clue.. whats with all the b rate bands that only tour the town… why is there no real entertainemnt centers like reds or anything .. half of down town is deserted… lets make something that is worth driving across town for.. what you dont hang out at the pal.. omg that place is so old your gramdma was giving it away in the basement for free back in the day.. this town needs to see they are at least 20 years behind its like alberta in the 80’s …No wonder why half the city is on welfare the other half is on workers comp.. wait can you get workers welfare comp..”

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“Nice areas in Winnipeg are expensive. The few people that do have money want to live in River Heights, Linden Woods Tuxedo,Whyte Ridge in the south end. The vast majority of Winnipeg is modest or just trashy and run down.

This is a poor city and few people can afford a house over $300,000 to get even a small house in these areas. The property taxes here will kill you. I used to live in Lethbridge and the property taxes are almost double in Winnipeg.

Sure if you make 75,000+ you can afford something decent, but few people make that kind of income. Most people live in substandard housing that needs lots of upgrading or maybe tearing down. Only 15% of this city has been built or renovated in the last 25-30 years. Calgary that figure would be 75 or 80%.

Face reality- nice housing is for the few people who have succeeded in a stagnate low income city. If you have the money you can have the nice house, but that doesn’t even come close representing the majority of Winnipeggers.”

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“I think that the courts etc outside of Manitoba should sentence people to living in Winnipeg for a determined number of years as their punishment. The city is already full of crime anyway. Living here is a like punishment anyway. I just got parolled as I am moving to Vancouver April 1.”

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“This is Canada’s worst larger city. There is no doubt. Want Proof: I arrived here six weeks ago to see an article ranking Winnipeg as a worse city than Regina. That is pretty pathetic. Leaving back to Vancouver in 10 days. I can’t wait….”

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“know how pathetic this city is? The Winnipeg Sun had a headline that read “PEG TOPS CALGARY”. Curious, I checked out what Winnipeg could have done to dethrone Calgary. Turns out, 3 firefighters have decided to come back to Winnipeg from Calgary, after deciding the cost of living was too high.

3 lousy people come back from Calgary to Winnipeg and it’s front page news??? How pathetic is that. I heard a rumor that a half dozen construction workers will be transferred to Winnipeg from Calgary in late February. Maybe we should throw them a parade?”

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“It’s true, Winnipeg is such a disgrace to Canada, I ask myself why i’m still living here. Well, I’ll tell ya. First off, I wanna finish my post secondary education which is majoring in engineering and once thats done, I’m moving to either Calgary or Vancouver, haven’t decided yet but i’m sure i’ll make up my mind somewhere down the road and then i’ll see a light at the end of the tunnel.”

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“I have not so lovingly nicknamed this city “Winnihellholepeg”. The crime, the gangs, the prostitutes, the selfish and rude people I have dealt with here, the panhandlers, the children out at all hours with no parental guidance,the dog eat dog attttude, the drug dealersa and users,the car thieves, the drunks and government supported leeches who are capable of contributing but won’t, the crime and violence. It is really sad, because this city has a lot of potential and some really interesting things to see and do.”

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“I’ve lived in Winnipeg my entire life, and it hasn’t changed a bit. It was, and always will be, a piece of crap city. It had potential, until Socialists and beggars ruined it. Damn NDP.”

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“Winnipeg is a awful place to live, too much awful drivers who cut you off with out warnings. Mean and unfriendly people who are just plaine miserable and its the most depressing and gloomiest places in Canada. I think! also awhole lot of others agree…i can see! Winnipeg SUCKS big time! Lived here for 2 years and I hate it! crime capital in canada what a sorry place to be…scary i’ll say! what the hell is the city doing sitting on there asses not doing a thing about it all!!! throw those criminals in jail already! keep them there too…”

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“Well option #1 (change the city) was not possible due to the indifference to the people with money (government/business community). Believe me, I always wanted Winnipeg to change so bad. However I have accepted that it will never be anything more than a dump. I chose option #2. Head to Alberta/BC/etc…”

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“I heard it once said if Canada was described as being a person, Vancouver B.C. would be the head and face, because it is a beautiful city and province, Alberta would be the breasts with it’s Rocky Mountains, Saskatchewan the stomach because it is flat, the Maritimes as the feet because its rocky and hard like the soles of your feet, quebec and ontario like the legs because they are long, and winnipeg manitoba, as the asshole.”

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“I’ve been pretty much all around the world (Europe, Asia, South America — not Africa yet) for work and pleasure, and I’ve lived in Kelowna BC, Caledonia ON, Bedford NS, Edmonton and Calgary AB. So I think I’ve got a pretty good idea how the other half lives. Now that I’ve had kids, I find myself stuck again in this shitty city to be close to family. Yeah, things could be worse, but things could be a helluvalot better too! With the exception of most of the Asian countries I’ve been to, I really would rather live just about anywhere else! Life is too short to waste any time living in Winnipeg. Vacations are too short to waste visiting Winnipeg.

I cannot wait to get out of here. I am literally counting the days to retirement so I can leave this place and never come back.”

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“The problem is that Winnipeg has too much poverty and aboriginal people addicted to drugs and alcohol on the streets.They commit most of the crimes. Manitoba province is poor and the wages ale lower, thats why you have cheapest housing in Canada and cheapest prices for food.The weather is the coldest sometimes -35 or -40 with wind chills and it last until march.”

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“traveled all over the country. By far winterpeg is the RUDEST and most IGNORANT people I’ve ever met. Don’t bother asking directions or anything – they will look at you like your’ve from Mars!!”

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“You can also add: The most racist city in Canada”

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“More and more people are taking your advice and leaving this craphole. I have lived in the third world of Mexico and people have a better life there. Winnipeger’s defend Winnipeg and say that it is cheap to live here. What they fail to see if the quality of life that they have. I am moving from this craphole in April and I cannot wait. Have fun in the poverty capital of North America. Goodbye to the lazy union people of Winnipeg.”

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“I think that some of your facts here are not accurate. Winnipeg does not have a good economy for higher paying jobs. You need to know someone unless you are in a desperate industry such as nursing or trades. People in Winnipeg are pleasant, not friendly as it is hard to get people to accept you into their circle of friends. Winnipeg is consistently ranked as one of the 3 highest crime cities in Canada-check you stats.

Winnipeg is the cheapest city for a reason: No one wants to live here. If the Manitoba government didn’t bribe people from 3rd world countries, the population would be shrinking.

I’ve lived all over Canada and I can confidently say this city is a hopeless pile of crap.”

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“Winnipeg is cheap for a reason: no one wants to live here. The only people that love it are people that grew up here and don’t know much better. The gov’t has to bribe people to move here.”

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“Don’t forget to add in that they are all cliquish, in gangs, cons or ex-cons.”

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“Another thing about this city. People are unintelligent and creepy.

Unfriendliness I don’t mind, but boorishness and meanness really is creepy.
These morons in Winnipeg only know how to react like vicious pack dogs because they lack character and personality – that’s why they’re in Winnipeg!”

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“There is a band called Vanitian Snares who has a song called ” Winnipeg is Frozen Shithole”. The band leader Aaron Funk created it because he hates his hometown.”

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“How can you call this city beautiful??? It is flat, run down, and dirty. Yes the city is full of rats-did you read today’s paper about the rats they are finding in storm sewers all over place.

This city has more problems than almost any city in Canada. It is crime-ridden, poor, ugly, dirty, cold. I can go on and on.”

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“People in Winnypig are the rudest bunch of ***holes in north America”

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“Right on Ben. The increased Native population in Manitoba/Winnipeg, is the main reason, we are number 1 in violent crime, child poverty, grandparents raising their grandchildren, arson capital, welfare and all the other wonderful things that having a large Native population brings. It is true send them to the reserve and the crime will go down in Winnipeg. Now they are demanding houses saying that 4000 of their people need houses, so if you want a house, get a job and get a mortgage and buy a house, you lazy beggars.”

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“Winnipeg does suck in many ways, violent crime, auto theft, wanna be gangs, low wages, …. If you can’t stand the hood, move… Thats what I did… Tuff guy, now afriad of the hood once I ruled, no fear, felt like a outcast when I’d go to st.vital eg., peoples fear I’d see for no reason. Now I’m afriad, outcast of the hood and burbs, is it an unfriendly city or is it just me.”

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“I agree with you……….Friendly Manitoba, my foot. You’d have to go far and wide to find people as two faced and rude as in Winnipeg.”

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“I’ve lived in Winnipeg for approximately 35 years and in all that time I can honestly say that I only have acquaintances and no real friends.

Now you might arrive at your own opinion(s) as to why this is, but I can assure you it’s not because I’m a rotten person, etc. When I make a friend, that person is a friend for life. I would do anything to help that person; anything.

Maybe my idea of frienship is a little screwball, but in all the years I’ve lived here, I’ve yet to find someone who I can truly call a friend. I’ve found that most people are what’s called “fair weather friends,” all’s good when things are going well, but should a problem arise, these “friends” are suddenly unavailable for lunches, etc.

I’ve witnessed this with many people I know, and I’ve never been proved wrong. Sadly, Winnipeg people miss out on so much by never knowing what it’s like to have a true friend.

I still have friendships with people I met in other countries 30 years ago. And, I know if I were ever in trouble and needed help; they’d be here in an instant, even if it meant travelling across the ocean.

I’ve tried and tried to keep friendships going here in Winnipeg but find it impossible because of the way people are. I’m sure some of you will disagree with my opinions but ask yourself this: have you really and truly put your frienships to the test? Try it, you might be surprised.”

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“Living in Winnipeg is like living an a prison – You never know when you’re going to get a knife in your back and be ganged up on for no good reason. I asked a person once who is from Edmonton what she thought of Winnipeg: She said ‘People are rude here, and they’re snoopy. There’s too much crime too.”

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“Maybe she’s the ‘happy hooker’ because she must be on drugs to say Winnipeg is ‘fun’! Drink a bottle of whiskey, then any city is ‘fun’!!!”

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“I am going to have to agree with some of the comments. We moved here 6 years ago, I have not made any friends here ,(just casual hello type) Trust me it has not been from me trying. I volunteer in the school system almost everyday, help people with their snow shovelling etc… I get a thank you , but unless you were raised here and went to school here you won’t have much luck getting into a circle of friends. I don’t agree with the “friendly Manitoba moto”.

I have lived in 4 provinces and 1 state this is by far the hardest place I have ever lived. Yes, the long cold winters are tough, then to add more cruelty to it the summers are short,way too much rain ( and I grew up on Vancouver Island) VERY windy and a ton of bugs.

But on the up side… I DON’T THINK I COULD GIVE UP THE BIG BRIGHT BLUE SKY.”

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“You are so right on all these points. You have to grow up there, go to the same elementary school and kindergarten to make friends. I think it could get into the Guiness Book of Records for city with the most backstabbers. They are vicious. They can be friends with you one day and then knife you the next for no apparent reason, just because they like to do that, or because you graduated from a different kindergarten than they did. So it is an awful place to live in for many reasons. People who live in Wpg. and can’t get out must feel as if they died and went to hell.”

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“You are honest and you are right, people supporting this dump are either very dumb or very dishonest. Having lived here 15 yrs I would say it is the latter.”

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“born and raised in wpg left when i was 18 cant pay me enough to move back wpg is for losers”

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“Winnipeg is probably the worste city in the entire nation. I have traveled all over Canada and it is no good. When dozens of people comment in a similar way you know there’s veracity in their claims. People are rude, bullies, slobs, morons, and definitely malicious and unfriendly!”

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“Winnipeg is the best, we have the best weather, advanced universities, clean streets, friendly people, MILD, MILD winters, long hot summers, best roads and drivers, and the highest paying jobs in the country……….

By the way….I was born and raised in winnipeg, I have a grade 10 education, been married and divorced 4 times, I’m unemployed ,and I’ve been an alcoholic for the past 19 years…..LOL”

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“Winnipeg really sucks, reality bro. Nothing to do in malls, no nightlife, immigrants use it as a backdoor to get to Canada fast, then move to other provinces, Transit management is awful, Selkirk Avenue… I can go on and on.”

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“This is why people don’t like Winnipeg. All the nice people get sick of the Ah*s and leave. Soon there will be all people who deserve each other ! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAA!!!!”

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“Like so many have said…Rude, miserable, ignorant, snoopy. It’s the people – they are really ignorant calloused slobs and boors. It is getting known nationaly even.

The whole “If you hate Winnipeg, then MOVE!” attitude/way of thinking doesn’t really solve Winnipeg’s problems now does it?

If everyone who hated Winnipeg moved, there’d be about 10 people in town.”

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“I’m a Winnipeger – please someone give me a ticket out of here. Take me someplace better – Faluja or Gitmo.

Its all true – especially the crime thing – absolutely shocking.

The restaurants are, for the most part, similar in terms of grease, sodium and crap. Unless you have the money to dine at a better restaurant – which the majority of people dont.

Bitter, semi retarded and red necked by virtue of our local we venture out every summer, lemming-like, to chintzy, expensive and mind numbing festivals like Folklorama – essentially a festival where one ethnic group fleeces another for a couple of weeks.

Winnipegers don’t kid yourself – travel past Thunderbay to the east and Regina to the west and you may glimpse paradise.

The mullet died out in Winnipeg around ten years after it had become out of fashion in the Ozarks.

Oh, but there is an Opera – where a flack jacket in the parking lot when you come out.

GET ME OUT”

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“Why is it that Winnipeg has more gangs than any city in Canada? Why so much violence among youth? And why are there so many people getting sick of the place and moving to Calgary or Toronto even?

There is a gang mentality in this place. Everyone is in a gang. People do not act as individuals here but as people in groups, unions, companies, and yes, gangs. When individuals do not have the guts, the character, the honesty to stand up for what is right and tell the truth you get corruption and sin abounds. This is the problem in this wicked city.”

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“It is the sh*t hole of Canada. The only ones who don’t agree are redneck, slob, ignorant, rude, farting, belching, sneaky, mean, trecherous people who were born here and probably will stay in this hole all their miserable lives.”

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This is actually the first time that I’ve read these posts and I have to say my piece now…

As an ex-Winnipegger, now living in Toronto, each and every time I go back to Winnipeg for a visit I become a little more depressed, not because I miss it but because the city depresses the hell out of me. I don’t think there’s a person out there that can deny that downtown Winnipeg has become a wasteland of boarded up buildings and “For Lease” store fronts. I mean, for gods sake, there have been some buildings that have been for lease since the early 90’s. I simply haven’t seen that in any other city that I’ve either lived in or visited, and believe me, I’ve travelled the world. I grew up in Winnipeg for 23 years and, yes, it used to be a much nicer place and downtown used to be cleaner, safer, and just overall more appealing, but to all those living in Winnipeg now…OPEN YOUR EYES!! How many of you would voluntarily walk Poratge Avenue past sundown?? How many of you feel truly safe even in Portgage Place?? So you have the Forks…big whoop. Every city of half a mil or more has a market. I have never felt uneasy about walking in downtown Toronto or Montreal, even at 3 in the morning. I’m not saying that there’s no crime here but there’s no comparison to Winnipeg. I met people from Jakarta who felt usafe in downtown Winnipeg. Jakarta!! One of the most crime-ridden cities in the world! Yes there are nice suburbs in the city but to me, that’s not living. There’s a reason why real estate in Winnipeg is cheaper than anywhere else in the country. I can’t remember where I read it, but in terms of crime, Winnipeg has a higher crime rate than a lot of similar sized U.S. cities and even larger U.S. cities like Minneapolis.
Why do you think that for the past 30 years Winnipeg’s population has mostly stagnated while other cities continue to grow.

It still doesn’t take away from people’s opinions about the city, but having lived there for most of my life, I can confirm that a good chunk of the city is living in denial when it comes to just how sad that place is.

Oh, one more thing, Winnipeg will never change until someone decides to “clean up” the giant Reserve they call downtown. Call me a biggot, call me what you like, but there’s no point in burying your head in the sand about it.

It is a hellhole. I can’t stand living here. Something you forgot on your list is that most people here are Christian!:(“

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“Another winterpeg murdertoba moron. check internet for Helen Betty Osborne this says it all about this puke province”

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“manitobans are gay, how are u gunna sit here and defend winnipeg… i live in winnipeg its a shit hole and everyone i know thinks the same way we cant move cuz we have jobs and responsibilitys so lose your pride and realize the healthcare sucks, weather sucks, bugs, indians,murders, INDIANS, like fuck off already with the red river my god man its brown from sewage, the only thing this place is good for is fucking, actualy not true canada says winnipeg has a worst sexual activity rate, but the most stds how does that work?? WINNIPEG SKID MARK OF CANADA.. to people wanting to drive threw winnipeg to get to a real city, dont get sick here they dont treat you, its actually funny, if u think im joking come for a visit no lies ask any body”

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“These morons are the most ignorant , rude, snoopy ***holes in Canada. And, of course, they act like *ricks on ly to the ones they can get away with it with – sneaky, cowardly, and evil *ukes!”

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“MR Winterpiggy: You have probably lived in this **** hole all your life and don’t have any manners or any sense of truth in your body whatsoever. If the ***holes here acted they way they do and did it elsewhere they whould get a swift Kick in the *** but the morons from here are too cowardly to be rude and evil to anyone unless they think they can get away with it. I never met people like in Winnypiggy before. O wonder it is full of crooked unions and cowardly gangs no one has personality or character, just chick *holes whostick to their sneaky little ***hole gangs and boring little groups of local hicks.”

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“winnipeg is the greatest city in the world.
top paying jobs, international money from our exports, the best pro sports leagues, MTS centre WOW WOW WOW, only highly trained and skilled people from the west and down south FLOCKING to be here, cleanest streets, the BEST police force in the country, perfect landscape and roads and the highest rated quality provincial government in the country. the list could go forever.

ps. If anyone has any crack or meth to sell, please see me on the corner of main and selkirk between 8am and 5pm.. I live in the BFI bin behind the corner pawn shop, ask for Joe…

oh and once again, winnipeg is the best”

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“I moved to Winnipeg a while ago. I have lived all over Canada, and by FAR, this place is HORRIBLE. It is impossible to make friends, everyone is so uninviting and rude. EVen in high school, I was completely isolated because I was, yes, a newcomer. Worst spot in Canada, period. Spare yourself, don’t come here.”

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“I’m really sick of the “if you don’t like it then leave” response. Did anyone ever realize we’d love to except we can’t afford anything better right now? I would LOVE to go back to Calgary but there’s no way I can drop a quarter of a million on a little bungalow while at the time making $18 an hour yet paying $1199 rent plus utilities, cay payment, wonderful gas moola, internet connection, phone bills.

I’m only here because I want my own house to live in one day, but this place is dull, the people can’t drive “what’s a turn signal?”, “speed limit 80 so I go 45 right?” oh and did I mention dull? Yeah you have the forks and the zoo but you can only go there so many times and then that gets dull too. A third of the people at work who’ve lived here always have never even gone to the zoo. Cartfulls of liquor leave the stores so what I can come up with is the only thing to do here is drink. Maybe that’s what contributes to the wonderful drivers and the cheery people?

And don’t bother telling me if I don’t like it I can move. I KNOW THIS. And I am GONE as soon as I can escape this crapshoot.”

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“Winnipeg has always and will forever be the true anus of Canada! This place is so far behind the rest of the world! Filled with a bunch of people who have no true vision for this city. This city is so screwed, go luck trying to fix it! I am so glad I am out of this shit hole come April! Bunch of el-cheapos too!”

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“There are people starving in Winnipeg daily …..the city is notorious for high child poverty levels….last time I went downtown I saw homeless people camped out on nearly every corner!!!! Oh and I think that tonight I will go to one of the numerous crappy canad inn bars that peggers seem to sooooo fond of and try to make some friends…..provided I don’t get effn shot in the process….wish me luck…Winnipeg blows no matter how you put it just SUCKS!”

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“In my opinion the situation in Winnipeg has not improved. Why? There is a systemic problem withing the hospitals in Winnipeg where health care providers are more interested in protecting themselves and their co-workers from law suits so they therefore will try to hide the errors instead of admiting them or apologizing. Apo9logizing, they think will just allow people to sue them. So they are more intereswted in their well paying jobs than in the lives of human beings in their care. This is very very scary and this attitude is not uncommon in this city unfortunately. I would urge anyone who lives in Winnipeg to seek health care in another province if at all possible. The nurses are uncaring , selfish, lazy , and jaded in the extreme.”

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“I have lived in Winnipeg all my life and will tell it like it is even if it offends some. First the Indians who live in Winnipeg are a disgrace and dragging this city down. If they are not committing crimes they are constantly whinning about something. Many of their youths join gangs and commit serious crimes. killing, stealing from the elderly, or selling drugs. It is always the white mans fault as they won’t take any responsibility for their actions.

Compounding this serious problem is that Manitoba has a socialist Government. Their only solution is to throw money at the indians. Which does nothing but create an endless Welfare problem.

Winnipeg has no industry. So many who are highly educated move away. We are left with a bunch of dummies who don’t want to work. Or are to stupid to be employable.

The unions run this town, and along with a socialist government have a dogma style thinking that Welfare and handouts is okay.

Someone said in a previous post they visited Chicago and he only encountered a bunch of pricks. what we need in Winnipeg is for some of these pricks to move here and clean up our city.”

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“I happily left Winnipeg. I found people thier to be extremely vandictive. Nothing better to do than sale dope and spread the hate. This is how you get caught. Too many fake people for my taste. No wonder it’s the murder capital. If the shoe fits.”

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“Winnipeg aka “Detroit Of The North”

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“I think it is also VERY HUMEROUS that Winnipeg is to be the host of the ‘Human Rights Museum’ They should put a wax stature of little Helen Betty Osborne, JJ Harper, and all the poor little native kids who are preyed on by middle class white men who come into the inner city at night.

Why are poor little native kids out on the streets at night. I will also add, shame on those men, they are the scum of the scum.”

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“Hey man! Winnipiggy’s a great place – if yor in a union , wk for the govt, or..went to kindergarten with your pals here. LOL!!!

This is for you “GetOuttaTown”
Couple more fact about you and your shit hole city!!
Murder Capital!
Criminal safe city!(they all go there to hide)
Dirty filthy sick city!
Flat and boring!
Useless police department!
North end!(speaks for itself!!)
Most of the women are men!(goes the other way 2!!)
Jobs are crap!
Indian infestation!
Downtown skyline!(whatever!)
Call me a loser….? Sure go ahead!! Whatever it takes to make you feel better about you and that city of yours!! LOL!!
This is fun slamming you and winnipeg!!!!
Best part is that…..? IT’S ALL TRUE!!! LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!
Do yourself a favor…..GetOuttaTown!! Just don’t come to Alberta!!!HAHA!!!”

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“I hate to say I agree with the negative comments about Winnipeg (as I was born and raised there), however most of them are true….I live in Stuttgart Germany now and have lived in Calgary, and London England as well…All over the world they have never heard of Winnipeg or if they have they only know what a dump it is….Like I said I hate to agree, but it is a massive shithole…The only ones who don’t think so are the ones that can’t leave….PS Edmonton is as big a shithole as Winnipeg only more expensive.”

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“Ok-I have read this entire post and found it quite interesting and educational.Its like a little gossip spot by your neighborhood.

I am originally from a good city in Africa and those who say that Winnipeg is paradise to immigrants are wrong.I have lived in Winnipeg for 2 years and firmly believe that ist doesn’t matter where you live-if you have the right attitude-you will have a good time,but if you have a negative attitude-no matter where you go-you will always bitch around like an immature brat.Here we go:

1)Winnipeg downtown-its so deserted and people are just creepy.Mostly the dirty Indians who are confrontational.You walk around and many people seem retarded for some reason-i suppose the city has its unfair share of old people and drug addicts.The people on the streets seem strange for some reason.

The mayor should work on improving the downtown image by getting drunkards off and letting in more businesses and restaurants by way of incentives.

2)Winnipeg transit-The buses have the most awful people I have seen in my life-people are dirty,smelly and the buses are never cleaned.I once sat next to an indian who spit on the bus floor-That was shocking.Manner less brutes.

3)Health care sucks-I had it great in Africa-all you had to do was go to a doc and withing an hour you are off with medicine.Going to a walk in clinic is such a hassle.The nurse once told me the doc was sick and the following day-she told me they will close by 4 pm-so i better hurry.

4)Not even a large single supermarket downtown.Most shopping places are in the suburbs-which is weird for a city with 700k plus population.

5)People look bored,mean and tired.Good girls think everyone is creepy.Many people look down upon people who dont look like them-except a few young ones.

6)The weather is cold-but there’s nothing you can do about that-other than find things to do and dress well.

7)Crime-Its been blown out of proportion by the media-most large cities have a fair share of crime.Besides-random shootings arent that common.Mostly gangs if you ask me

8)The parks are beautiful,may neighborhoods in the south are excellent-but the areas in the north need some improvements.

8)Jobs jobs-why bring people here when there are no good jobs?.Encourage private enterprise and set aside youth development funds.Encourage new ideas with venture capital.”

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“Nah the whole staement is true!!

Winnipeg is a f#king sht hole man!!

I was born and grew up in Winnipeg. I left when i was 18 years old and have never been back.

It is by far the worst place to live perhap in the world??

I really feel sorry for anyone stuck in Winnipeg and all i have to say is get out while you can!!

If you choose to live there, well then you really are a silly f*#ker arent ya??”

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“Winnipeg reminds me of a pile of dog shit and human vomit. In some ways, I compare this city to Detroit. Look at it, this city is overall ugly, dirty, an abundance of abandoned buildings, a mediocre downtown, shitty economy, low wages. Its no wonder cities like Vancouver, Kelowna, Victoria, Calgary are like a haven for Winnipeggers. To be honest, I don’t think this city has a future.”

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“Winnipeg women are so fat and disgusting, Winnipeg women make me sick.”

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“I have lived here for 5 years now can’t wait to move out of this city, it is a really grey city not so clean, no one knows how to signal when they drive and if you do people speed up and dont let you in. this has been one of the worst places i have been to. i agree with most comments said already.”

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“Winnipeg is far the worst place i ever been i grew up here school was hell with all the aborginal gangsters picking on everyone starting random fights drug dealing shooting houses and our small well fair air port that no one goes to winnipeg is a place where people visit not live i hate this place its a shit hole half the people i went to high school with moved or either got jumped killed by these shooting police take for ever to arrive there always busy i hate winnipeg once i turn 20 im out of there for sure i will by my parents a house so they will not have to live through this shit hold place of canada no one ever does anything for winnipeg its a shit hole broken roads small ass city gang wars little kids acting like they run things every generation in winnipeg ended up being the same winnipeg is one of the most uneasiest places say i were to go walk in the streets of edmonton in the night to my house from work i would be fine theres a large population there no one can really do anything your walking in winnipeg 3 or 4 guys come at you even though its public there going to beat you take your clothes and money and leave 2 days later the police arrive i been through so much stuff in this hell hole our premieres our prime minister has not done anything since for winnipeg its not even growing 11 of my friends moved to edmonton and toronto in this past month theres drug dealers everywhere people being beat killed bodys arents found its a shit hole theres not enough money to do this and that broken roads no brand name stores 3 or 4 malls drug houses people smoking weed in public drinking in public stores being robbbed”

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“I hate Winnipeg with all my heart and soul. It’s the people here, really, that make it such a lousy place. Rude, no vision… if the City of Winnipeg was a PERSON, it would be someone very old, very bitter, very set in their ways, who does nothing but sit around all day whining about how every penny of tax money is spent.”

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“Been In Europe and most of Canada, this is a shit-hole. Keep the immigrants coming, the gangs need to increase their numbers….lol

Fuck the bloods or cryps would tear these faggots apart.
The Wpg police are wanna be TV cops, it’s a joke here, they don’t clean up crime, neither does the fat mayor. Ah, a city of love….lol”

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“There is a fix for this city, lets ask the US to nuke us for our own good.

We should be absorbed by the US, then laws would change, we’d have the right to bear arms as is in the US consistution and kill any bastard that attacks us or our loved ones in self defense. And blow any fucker away that goes on our property.

Where now god forbid you hurt an intruder, lets say raped your wife, you also go to jail.

God Love This Country !”

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“immigrants are the only people who make winnipeg prosper
go to the u of m and see how it survives on immigrant fees.”

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“I just came back from Vancouver for a little holiday, i couldn’t believe how beautiful and gorgeous that city was compared to his wasteland, there is simply no comparison, its like comparing a hot sexy female model to a fat, disgusting, obese chick with armpit hairs. Talk about a world of difference. Sure, living in Vancouver may be more expensive but its considered a first class city and one of the most livable cities in the world, believe it or not. Let the truth be known.”

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“Lived in Winnipeg for a while and I would never go back. I’ve been all around this country and have lived in many cities and Winnipeg was by far the worst. There are few hills and the city is run-down and uninviting. I’m glad you like the city, Winnipeggers, but I gotta say I found it extremely depressing.”

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“This is the worst place hands down of anywhere I have ever lived, or have seen. I came here because I had to, and now I am leaving.

I am the type of person to find some redeeming quality in almost anything, but over and over again I come up stumped with regards to Winnipeg.

The good attitude I brought here has been systematically erased by cold, filth, ridiculously poor service, horrible, bleak scenery, garbage, lack of culture, a plethora of chain restaurants and even basic shopping is terrible.I have to order at my expense any item of quality off the internet because there are such awful shops here, no curb appeal in the neighbourhoods,and the radio stations are shit, the roads are like something after an earthquake, downtown is unsafe and something out of a lynch movie, the people are fat and the malls are packed because there is nothing else to do. And that is just a start!

I will undo all the irreperable harm that living, and I say that loosely, here has caused me. If you are on this site because you are thinking of moving here, play pin the tail on the donkey on a map of the world. You’d have a much better chance at a good life.

I am leaving and never coming back.
Thanks for nothing, Winnipeg!”

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“Rachel, you have eloquently described all the things I hate about this city. I came here three years ago with so much optimism and it has been methodically beaten out of me by this city. These days IÂ’m just playing at looking happy as I count the days to graduation so I can leave.

The service, and particularly their understanding of the concept customer service, is absolutely appalling to me.

Shopping is a nightmare! They claim that cost of living is cheap here, but I am spending more here because I have to buy everything online as I can’t find quality affordable clothing here nor can I find current styles. It’s depressing to see people on the streets, it’s like I’ve stepped back decades in time. It’s cheap here because you get what you pay for.

Entertainment wise there is very little to do and what little there is to do become boring after the third time. I can’t see movies I like when they are released because they don’t to the theatres until months later if they do come (not talking about the mainstream fodder). I’ve had to fly out of province three times in three years just to be able to see the live music I like. The one time a band came here that I liked their tour bus gets robbed at The Burton Cummings Theatre – the first time ever anywhere in 10 years of touring. Welcome to Winnipeg! So true about the radio stations – I just listen to internet radio now.

I can’t find 90% of the titles I search for at the public library and I have to wait sometimes a year to get the ones I do find.

The winters are brutal; I can’t seem to get warm no matter how many layers I put on, even with comforter-like coats. There is no way to be stylish and warm in this city.

I could go on, but you get the picture. If you are a person looking for a vibrant, exciting and invigorating place to live – this is not it.”

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“Rachel, I agree 100%!! I feel like the city caused me a lot of emotional damage and damage to my positive attitude that I brought with me. This city suck the energy out of you. Good to know, it’s not only me who feels the same way.”

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“winnipeg seems kind of sad because the main industry seems to be social services for the down and out. that and agriculture – not much else. everyhing is a substance abuse center, pawn shop and thrift shop.”

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“Most racist, no class, cliquish, clonish, small town paranoia type, miserable and unfriendly – That’s Winterpeg.”

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“This place is an absolute sh*t-hole. Some have called it the a$$hole of the world, and for very good reason. Winnipeggers are cheap, miserable, boring, have no fashion sense, no pride, and they are contentious, rude, arrogant, back-stabbing, and very juvenile. I know this because I have lived here my entire miserable life and can’t wait to leave and go somewhere real that doesn’t look like a third-world country. I also can’t wait to meet people who WON’T smile into my face and then stab me in the back the first chance they get. If anyone here believes this is a great place for a young-at-heart career oriented individual to have a good life, I’ll ask them how much solvents they’ve sniffed today.”

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“It seems most Winnipeg are totally unsympathetic to the needs of most newcomers. There is an ignorance that prevails here due to there own comfortably. I also think that the harsher climate and bad weather conditions, as well as an unstable rich ruling class environment tend to desensitise others to the needs of others.”

People are really struggling themselves. Hurting people hurt or neglect others.

I’ve been here ten years. And I have yet to make ONE consistent friend. Of course many will jump to conclusions and say I must be defective or skewed somehow. I am not. Before coming to Winnipeg as a local musician I enjoy a vibrant social circle of friends.”

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“I have lived here for 3 years. The best part of this city is what I see in the rear view mirror on my way out of town on my way to work. Is it the cold winter’s I hate? Nope. The crumbling infastructure? Partially. What tops the list is the people. I was in Halifax not long ago. Did you know that the drivers there actually stop for pedistrians? In Winnipeg the drivers speed up and aim the car at someone crossing the street. And don’t get me started about the idiots on bikes. I watched one moron run every single red light on Broadway the other day. Every single one! Can you say death wish? Clerks in stores are rude, drivers are rude, and even the lawn care guy is rude. Friendly Winnipegers? Maybe the hookers are. Don’t bother with the “if you don’t like it you can leave” argument. First chance I get, I’m outa this toilet.”

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“I agree with most people on this form, but what gets to me is the crime in the city, I mean get it under control. Declare martial law, search people if you have to, quarantine the areas that are crime ridden. I feel like I have to be like the guy from the movie “kickass” or “Deathwish” and go gang hunting. Fear is among the streets of Winnipeg and the Police do nothing about it. It’s time to let loose the wild dogs and remove the cancer that plagues our city. Winnipeg is festering crap hole, has little going for it. People find corpses in the rivers, people get shot or stabbed, I know every city is not perfect but this one has nothing to counter the balance. Also there is nothing to do at night if your not into bars or clubs. The transit system is a joke, an exchange student said Winnipeg is ridiculous – takes an hour and a half to get from downtown to st.vital on a sat, while back in Berlin she could get twice the distance in half the time. People are rude, have no life spirit, no energy – and I don’t blame them. I see people in bad moods nonstop and the only reason you would ever move to this city, is how cheap it is. It’s sad that our leaders don’t do anything, I can say with sad confidence that this city will be Canada’s shit stain in a matter of ten or fifteen years”

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“Mostly bad experiences in Winnipeg. I have traveled the world but settled here for the last Five years as my wife is a winnipeger. She has always wanted to get away, I have never liked it, and now we have a little one we are definitly leaving.

I find most people who were born in Winnipeg really dont know any different as most have never traveled. Saying that, nearly everyone I work with complains all the time about something here, quite a depressing place really. the news every night is about shootings and gang violence.

I could afford to buy a great house with a pool but to me there is much more to life than a house. Will miss Assinaboine park and Gimly but nothing else, Gangs are out of control, problems even spready to good areas, infastructure is just horible, I have been to 3rd world countries in better shape. Winter pretty much wipes out half the year, and mosqitoes ruin what is left. Only time it is vaguely nice is April and may.
We are leaving soon for good, and I cant wait!”

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“My top 10 reasons for reasons for not liking winnipeg.

  1. Crime is out of conrtol
  2. Winter
  3. Summer(may be hot but is always bloody humid and sticky. 30degrees in the med is what I call a summer!
  4. Mosquitoes. cant even sit out and watch the sunset whithout being carried away by them.
  5. Infastructure is a joke, so many broken roads/sidewalks, steel rebar sticking out the concrete everywhere, weeds growing out of all the cracks,
  6. Bloody miles from anywhere, have to fly or drive for a day to get out of here.
  7. Geographically dull. lots of rivers but just mucky brown. furthest you can normally see is the next trafic light. No natural beauty unless you like flat fields and shabby buildings.
  8. Traffic lights, roads are a joke, no main through routes in the city.
  9. No dirct flights to europe anymore, total pain transfering whhen you have kids, makes for very long and tiring journey.
  10. People cannot drive, one of the most hostile cities I’ve driven in. drivers here are just simply stupid, apart for the odd exception.”

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“I have never seen a more accurate description of the Peg. As an outsider who has been living in the compassionless hell for eleven years. I couldn’t agree more. And as for the ignorant responses that will follow, I could care less!”

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“This answer sums up everything I have been thinking. This is a city without compassion. People are very selfish and self centered. What I haven’t seen anyone mention as of yet is how uncaring and compassionless people are towards the economically challenged. The poor here are treated in a disgusting way. I’ve never seen such a socially enforced cast system in my life. Please do not move here if you are not finacially secure. No one will care if you end up on the streets or destitute. Winnipegers will just continue there “suck it up sunshine” attitude. Please do not come, especially with children. They will be at odds with other children whose families are deeply rooted in this community. Even if you are offered a job transfer with increased salary and wonderful benefits, it won’t be worth it. You will end up alone and longing to go home. I am trying hard to get out of this city and back to Kitchener, Ontario where I am from. I am so sorry I came here with my family.

Don’t expect a merciful clergy either. The clery in Winnipeg is corrupt and uncaring. Wealth eletists run the churches here. The theology is horrible and base. Most churches have been infiltrated by bizarre charasmatic teachings that seem more like a hybrid between new age teachings and witchcraft than love and community based faith in action. Oh and Love Winnipeg is a joke. People need to love people in their community EVERYDAY, not just once a year.”

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“What I’ve noticed about most Winnipegers is that they almost never leave Winnipeg. They think this city is great because they’ve had nothing to compare it to. The extent of their travelling has been to Regina or Grand Forks. Let me fill everyone in on the worst things about Winnipeg:

  1. Traffic. Someone posted some inane comment that we have “no traffic jams” HA! Winnipeg has THE WORST infrastructure in the free world! Even a dinky town like Grand Forks has a freeway system! But Winnipeg? Oh no, I’m pretty sure that they have an entire council of people who put their heads together to find the cheapest, most inefficient way possible for getting people from point A to point B. The entire city is run on a grid system, with stop signs, traffic lights and railroad crossings EVERYWHERE! You can’t find ONE non-stop route in this whole stupid city! And if there’s so much as one house within 50 yards of the street, they lower the speed limit to 50 km/hr. Even if it’s a 4 lane road! Oh ya, and then they put up photo radar everwhere….you know….for public safety (not because it’s the only major source of revenue in this town besides casinos).
  2. Blue collar mentality. Winnipeg is full of your typical “Homer Simpson” idiots. The highlight of their week is Sunday night cruise on Portage Avenue. Need I say more?
  3. Too many Indians. It’s like a freaking reserve in this city. Everyone’s on social assistance, and the murder rate is the higest in Canada (hmmmm wonder why?)
  4. Bad weather. There’s snow on the ground for 6 months of the year, and the rest of the time, it’s raining.
  5. Too many ugly chicks who think they’re the cat’s meow. People above mentioned how unfriendly Winnipeg is. Ain’t that the truth?! This goes DOUBLE for the women. They’re stuck up and fat. I travel a lot (to take a break from this place), and often go to L.A. You’d think that the women in L.A. would be stuck up (they could get away with it, the way they look out there). Not so. They’re incredibly friendly, flirty, and unlike anything I’ve found in Winnipeg.

It definitely is the worst city in Canada for so many reasons. The only thing going for it is that no one wants to live here, so there are jobs, and it’s relatively cheap (except for the taxes, but that’s another rant).”

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“I moved to Winnipeg from Toronto. but take in account that i lived in China for a lengthy amount of time as well. Needless to say, I’ve been here for 2 months, and next week Friday I will be going to my first ever therapy session, to talk about my feelings towards this city.

Avoid this city like the plague, don’t even fucking drive through this dump.”

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“Every time I walk downtown and come across a typical drunk native/aboriginal/first nation,it reminds me of a Zombie.

They are always drunk,limping,dirty,talk funny and have facial wounds.
Is winnipeg a ZOMBIE city and what is the mayor doing about the zombies?”

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“Honestly, I went to Winnipeg for work and found myself sitting in my hotel room for 3 days. Drove through “Assiboine Park?”, went to the Forks, but couldn’t stay due to the bat sized mosquitoes in the day and the natives at night. Couldn’t go to the bars at night, I left my G-Unit clothing at home. No natural beauty.
I have to say, it’s even worse than Prince George.”

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“I agree with most of the posts above. I have lived here all my life. Unless you are mentally ill, drink, or a criminal, Winnipeg is not for you. It was run better in the 90’s, at least you could voice an opinion without wondering if you will be punished for it! There is no leadership whatsoever now, and it’s beyond disorganization. I along with others hope to leave here too. It’s almost as if Winnipeg has become schizophrenic. The other provinces laugh at us all the time, that we are so behind, and so stupid.”

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“This city is a complete shithole, downtown is shit, theres really no nice areas in this city, sure, ppl can say that other cities suck, but they don’t know what they have til you come to winnipeg, i’m sure they’ll change their mind. I’ve been to Toronto, Montreal, Calgary, Vancouver, those are what i call cities, u know why, they have a thing called VITALITY, winnipeg doesn’t have that, winnipeg is a dying city and everybody knows that, sure, having a humans right museum, a new IKEA and a new stadium which is out in the boonies might help rejuvinate winnipeg, but not in long run, thats not enough, im sorry to say, but winnipeg needs more to keep up with other major canadian cities if they want to be respected and not look like a complete joke.”

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“winnipeg is great if you’re from eritrea”

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“read the globe and mail. canada prices are 15-35% above american prices. plus manitoba is one of most heavily-taxed (and poorest) provinces.”

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“I absolutely agree, how can the provinces slogan be “friendly Manitoba” when this is a total lie? Since moving here 4 years ago, we have experienced people who are rude, stand offish, have chips on their little shoulders, no sense of humour and weird in the true sense of the word. We want to move, but were worried if all Canadians are like this or just insular, small city in a big pond Winnipeg.”

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“I have grown to loathe Winnipeg. I can’t go in my back yard for most of the summer as the mosquitoes will eat me alive. Forget about going out of the city as I’ve done to visit my parents’ grave. They will attack you with a vengeance. Winters, even WITH the remote start in my car are hellish, not fit for man nor beast It’s very true it’s hard to make friends. I’ve joined several classes and the women might say hi but that’s about it. They come with their friends and that’s who they talk to. I’m retired now – off to Arizona for the winters where the people are very friendly. What a nice chance from this rat hole.

Yes, many towns and cities have problems, but Winnipeg really stands out. According to Environment Canada, it is the coldest city in the world of its size. It is also the fetal alcohol capital of North America. Manitoba is one of the highest-taxed provinces, and much of that money is wasted by the NDP.”

(http://www.topix.com/forum/ca/winnipeg-mb/TFVOJN02T5NPI84SK/p51)

Just a little over a third of the way through the comments, will stop here. Suffice to say, Winnipeg is a shit hole! Don’t claim you weren’t warned … !

See: Winnipeg Rants (part one)

Toronto: Rants

Since this city is universally loathed and there seems to be no proper forum to complain about it … feel free to leave your comments! Yes Toronto is a complete SHIT HOLE from hell – I get it. Will get to a post on TO whenever I work up the stomach for it.


“Dear Toronto,

Fuck you. Fuck your overpriced shitty basement apartments, your 400sq.ft. micro bachelors, your lazy transit system, your overpaid unproductive bureaucrats, unfair wages, and fuck your impossibly expensive cost of living.

When I moved here last year I had hopes and dreams of the beautiful life I might have, an exciting new job, a busy social life, and a comfortable place to call home. Instead, I quickly realized this city is poised against the working class individual. My dream job quickly became a nightmare once I found out that I was actually required to work in excess of 10-20 hours unpaid overtime each week and as a result my social life completely disappeared. As the months went on I realized I was digging myself deeper and deeper into debt, trying to pay the rent on my modest apartment while also maintaining the decent quality of life I had always had.

To get out of the hellish job I once dreamed of, I now work for less money than before and am forced to find a new, less expensive home. Forget saving money, and forget ever owning a home in this fucking city I just want an apartment that isn’t a complete fucking dump for less than $1000/month. Is that too much to ask that an educated, hardworking, 20 something individual be able to afford an above grade apartment whilst still having some semblance of decent quality life? Are we destined to be enslaved to our bosses and landlords forever just because our generation “missed the boat” on ever achieving financial success?

For years the wages of the middle class have lagged behind the rises in cost of living. What will become of this city, or this country when corporate greed eventually crushes the hopes and dreams of the middle working class into oblivion? We need income reform, we need taxes on foreign ownership, we need affordable housing, WE NEED A REVOLT TORONTO!

I am so sick and tired of being told that I just have to put my head down and keep working until I earn enough to live a comfortable life. We aren’t living through a depression, this city is rich enough to get this shit resolved. Or else I might as well leave, taking my skills and talent to somewhere else that doesn’t suck every last bit of joy out of my life. Someone else can have my under paying job and my run-down over-priced apartment. What’s the point of working here if I can’t afford to live? Whats the point of living here if I won’t be paid what I’m worth?

So that’s my rant r/Toronto. Call me entitled, call me lazy or delusional but I think its about time we take control of what is ours. Fuck the system. Fuck Toronto.”

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“Completely agree. I lived in Toronto in the 80’s and worked as a secretary. I didn’t have a car, but I had a nice apartment, paid my bills, ate well and could afford to go on vacation every year. And I was a single Mom so my expenses included daycare. No way that would be possible today.”

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“The only problem is the states has so many cities and markets to increase your chances of success. Unfortunately, here in our home and native land, what other CITIES are there besides Toronto? Toronto is a shitty place to live and work in. AND overrated, considering we’re the hub of the entire fucking country.”

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“I agree and honestly you’re probably better leaving. Toronto is really starting to drain me. I grew up here but it’s not the same place I grew up in, it’s changed a lot for the worse. In 5 years we will be like Vancouver – a resort city nobody can afford.”

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“I don’t know what to say, I hate Toronto. It’s a shit city, overpopulated, not enough opportunities, housing is fucking expensive. People are rude. Traffic on the roads and highways, transportation delays on the trains and buses, it’s a fucked up city is what it is. It’s depressing to live in Toronto, and it’s depressing to work in Toronto, and it’s depressing to be in Toronto.

I don’t know how Vancouver or other parts of Canada are. I’ve never traveled outside of Ontario. But Toronto is a fucking shithole and I’m fucking tired of it. Hell even trying to post a question on the /askTO you’re going to get rude, and condescending replies back from asshole people.”

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“By far cost of real estate. I think somewhere they said average detached house was 1.2 mill now? We managed to find a small bungalow for less than that but man a $3700/month mortgage plus property taxes plus Toronto Hydro etc…. it’s a kick in the butt that’s for sure.”

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“I moved here from a smaller city a few years ago. In an attempt to get to know people, meet new friends l, network etc. I have found most people quite superficial and cold. (Social worker and can read people quite well) Also how service at bars and restaurants aren’t up to par and how there’s an automatic ask for a 20% tip.”

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“Charity mugging is the term. Google chugging or charity mugging + Toronto and you will see you’re not wrong, or a lot of people agree with you, anyway.

I can’t stand them, they’re so aggressive now.”

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“The humidity”

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“Lack of foresight and planning…or an unwillingness to take action on those things.

It’s like being a passenger in a slow motion car wreck. You see what’s coming but no one is willing to take the wheel and steer to another direction or at the very least hit the brakes.

We wait until the very last minute, when the damage is about to be done or will at least cause a significant amount of misery and hardship.

All of which could have been avoided if our leaders were proactive instead of reactive.”

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“The same things I hate about most cities: Crime, homelessness, drug abuse, and traffic. But looking around the rest of the world, it could be so, so much worse.

Something a little more specific to Toronto: The architecture is somewhat bland, with many cookie cutter condo towers and excessive amounts of boring concrete buildings and infrastructure downtown.”

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“This, but I don’t feel anywhere near as generous about it.

It’s impossible to get around. Traffic here isn’t just bad, it’s in the top ten worst in North America. The TTC is a joke. Many places are too far to walk and cycling means taking your life in your hands.

I live in homelessness/drug addict HQ and it’s getting to me in a major way, I’m feeling cynical and frustrated and ill at ease.

Almost everything that was charming about Toronto has been sold off or priced out.

The fields of poor-quality, overpriced condos are a hellscape. Ugly, many with broken elevators, no thought given to the pipes servicing these monstrosities… coffins with glass walls designed for Florida, not a place that’s got eight months of winter

I’m so angry the city has been allowed to mutate, like a cancer, in such an anti-human direction. I’m annoyed there aren’t many other realistic options in this country, never mind the province

With four years of Ford’s conservatives ahead, it’s only going to get worse

And where the hell else do you go if you want to work and you’re not a farmer or French? Moncton? Calgary? Oh there’s always Vancouver /s”

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“The ridiculous cost of living/housing

The traffic.

The architecture.

Poor city planning.”

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“The smell of the garbage cans during the summer. That’s pretty much it.”

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“As someone who has lived in a number of major world-class cities I’ve thought about this a lot, and how to articulate it (I’m still struggling).

I think a lot of my gripes have to do with how it’s growing and rapidly changing, but the infrastructure isn’t really changing or adapting for it. I can’t believe they didn’t see this coming, and only now are trying to play catch-up.

They’re doing so much redevelopment and there’s so much change, but they don’t seem to invest any money in existing buildings. Walking around downtown, there’s so many new buildings popping up, but then the older beautiful ones are just left to kinda degrade, so the city ends up feeling a bit ‘rough’. If you look at a city like Melbourne or London, there’s beautiful old architecture mixed in with the new.”

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“In no particular order:

TTC – I honestly get depressed when it rains in the morning and I have to take the TTC rather than cycle. Don’t get me started about Winter…

Cost of Living/Real Estate – I make good money but it’s so hard to save in this City without becoming a shut in and eating no name chickpeas out of a can for dinner every night in the dark to save on hydro. I’ve already accepted that I’ll have to leave the GTA to ever own a home.

Mental Health Care – As someone who moved here from Europe a few years ago, this is shameful.”

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“The extremely hot summers and the extremely cold winters. Spring and fall are too short”

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“The fact that there’s no cellphone service on the subway, and that the subway frequently stops because of a delay (or for no apparent reason). Gets kind of frustrating after a while especially after experiencing how efficient the subway systems are in Asian countries.”

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“There’s a lot of things I love about my city but since you asked…

People will say ‘cost of living’ but that’s not specific enough. I can only speak for myself but wages have fallen by around 34% in my industry. There’s more jobs but less compensation. Apartment rent in my area of the city has increased by 67% since I moved in. Groceries and transit have gone up but not as significantly as rent has skyrocketed and wages have plummeted. Loan companies are making a killing by trampling over the working class, who are left with little alternative when faced with poverty than to ruin their credit willingly with a bailout loan that can’t be repaid. A lot of Torontonians have an uncomfortable amount of survival debt.

Owning a house is a pipe dream for most people I know. Big corporations like Bell are able to build on land and then close down public walkways and parks (and most big-box TO customer service are notoriously bad) and make getting around even harder than it already is. Our public transit is lagging years behind, as is our IT infrastructure. Amazon is taking over but everyone is still in denial about the upcoming automation labour crisis, so no real solutions are being worked out (talked about, promised, but nothing’s happening).

The education system has been slow to adopt a modern outlook in areas but that’s changing. Human trafficking still exists and is an ongoing hidden problem in the city. Doesn’t seem to be much in the way of vehicle traffic solutions on the horizon either, despite gridlock getting worse steadily each year. A lot of the old police dogs who spent their whole career going after the poor for minor drug offences are now poised to earn millions as investors in new marijuana companies which I think is rather hypocritical. The Meetup scene has staled and there aren’t many other ways to meet new like-minded people in the city. Toronto talks a lot about being a beacon of hope and inspiration by driving experimental innovation but in reality most of these types of projects are cancelled last minute due to the various sides not being able to come to an agreement. Some… not all, some… media outlets (on both sides of the political spectrum) flat-out break the law in order to harass their targets and nobody will stop them. Nobody cares enough about their local politicians.

I’m young and drunk btw not an old man like my ranting implies.”

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“I hate how there’s almost no new commercial/office development in the 416 suburbs. With the tax rate being uniform across the City, companies will always either prefer to set up offices downtown or in the 905 to take advantage of their lower rates and more space. Example: Aviva just moved their head office from Scarborough to Markham.

We need more well-paying jobs, not just shoebox condos in Scarborough, Etobicoke, etc.”

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“The cost of having fun. All sports tickets, concert tickets, DJ events, and similar events get sold out immediately or are at prices 2x more than similar events in other cities.

People mention infrastructure and transit, but as a side issue, the amount of patios right beside major roadways. But also with (lack of) transit, it affects days/nights out, looking at logistics for parking or transit schedules, getting everyone on the same page.”

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“It’s filled with rude people, it’s ugly, it’s expensive. I would leave here if I could.”

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“I think the culture. “no-fun Toronto” is a real thing when you compare us to other cities. And when we do try to do fun things, we Torontoize them so much that they’re no longer fun. For example, why was open streets TO only 4 hours on a Sunday? Why didn’t it start Saturday evening and last through Sunday afternoon? The odd time we take a good idea from other cities we bastardize them beyond recognition because we don’t think we’re responsible enough to have any fun. It’s like we don’t think we’re deserving of anything nice, and it sometimes really gets me down.”

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“The cost of real estate and rent. There won’t be any possibility for the youth or millennials to buy anything. Too sad”

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“I know it’s something we have no control over, but the sunset and sunrise times in the winter. The days are way too long compared to just a little further south.”

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“The lack of mountains and hills. I’m always in awe when I visit places like LA which have plenty of mountainous views you can not only admire but also hike through.”

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“The smell, it permeates everywhere.”

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“cost of living comparable to nyc or los angeles, traffic congestion that was obviously never planned for and will be tough and expensive to fix now. people’s general unfriendliness. and lack of good mexican food/tacos.”

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“The public transit The traffic The construction The waterfront The sprawl Cost of housing The bland and boring architecture Feeling like a foreigner in some parts, though that’s more of a gta issue The leafs and how they’re the dominant sporting team in this city for some odd reason”

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“I agree with everything you mentioned:

-It’s completely unaffordable to live here unless you’re pretty well off

Over the past 10-15 years, a lot of amazing independent businesses that gave the city character have had to close their doors

The general vibe is way too work/hustle-obsessed for my liking, but then again, maybe part of that is because we couldn’t afford to live here if we weren’t working all the time

I find municipal politics here incredibly frustrating

I’ve lost hope of having a family here as I can barely afford to keep afloat. Also, the feeling of commuting (during rush hour) in this city comes with a heavy sense of dread. Lastly, I find the architecture in this city to be bland and the urban planning to be rushed and unaccommodating. I feel like this city can do better… a lot better.

Edit: on a positive note, I love the diversity in cuisine and the quality of care at UHN. I wouldn’t want to have surgery anywhere else.”

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“I have lots of perspective having travelled and lived in many different parts of the world,

For me, the problem is the people.

  • Too many rich people acting like entitled douch bags.
  • way too many racist, homophobic, misogynistic assholes akin to DoFo.
  • Toronto gets all the people the rest of the province does not want, via a one way bus ticket.

The end result is the the middle class get screwed.”

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“Because it’s a city that’s so much less than it could be. It’s stuck between its deeply conservative roots, its terrible leadership, and infrastructure that is decades behind. It’s not just “people complaining.” Toronto lacks in so many ways compared to other big cities and it’s frustrating.”

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“It’s too expensive for me. Can’t afford to own a condo on a near 6 figure salary due to the number of issue affecting the housing market.”

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“It’s just way too expensive to the point that it doesn’t feel like it’s worth living here. I was actually born here and contemplate leaving. Recently, I’ve been seeing an ad on YT where recently lottery winners are asked about what they’ll do with their winnings and one guy actually said that he can now finally afford to move to Toronto and rent a place.

Also because everyone is basically struggling to afford rent, it’s all hustle and bustle and no one really talks to each other during the commute or just anywhere.”

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“Altruism, empathy, social engagement, sense of community etc. definitely have been dying in Toronto. A gap has definitely grown between renters and home owners in these areas within neighbourhoods too.”

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“It’s not the same city as it used to be! Drivers are rude, people littering, unaffordable housing, FORD as a fucking premier. Etc.. but I agree with the top voted. There are good things in Toronto but the bad is outweighing some of the good.”

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“It all depends on money. If you make at least 40K a year Toronto is one of the best places in Canada to live. If you get 11K a year from disability, as I do then the health care is adequate while in smaller communities it’s horrifically bad even without the doctor shortages; but in terms of quality of life it’s not much better than a dingy shack and dented tuna cans in any other community.”

***

If you make at least 40K a year Toronto is one of the best places in Canada to live.

“I am sorry, several ppl would disagree with this. I make close to 6 figures and with rent and basic expenses, i have to cut down or luxuries like eating out a lot compared to how much more money i could spend when i lived in Houston.”

***

“40k a year if by Toronto you mean Brampton and you rent a basement or collect subsidies…”

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“Born and raised in Toronto but I have travelled around a lot to other major cities for comparison. The few things that my friends, family and I find frustrating with this city:

  • Unaffordable as housing and cost of living here is ridiculous
  • Commuting around the city sucks. Traffic here is ridiculous and we have some of the worst public transit systems in the world despite being a massive city. Not to mention our crumbling roads and potholes take forever to get fixed.
  • Infrastructure is old and falling apart and parts of the city is starting to look really grungy and ghetto.
  • Weather is not the greatest. It’s basically cold 8 months of the year and you get very little days of sun. It takes a toll on your health and mood.
  • Work life balance is pretty bad, we are overworked and under paid and hardly get time to have a social life. Majority of Toronto residence is living pay cheque to pay cheque which is just unacceptable.
  • We have homelessness issues and little mental health resources
  • Crime is pretty bad, basically a homocide or shooting every week.

Many of my friends complain on the amount of income taxes we pay, most of these problems should be fixed. It sometimes feels like u work ur life away here and get nothing in return to show for it. Most of my money goes towards vacations so I can escape atleast 2 weeks a year.

But at the end of the day Toronto is my home so I deal with it.”

***

“It is a nightmare to park in downtown Toronto

And you will use profanity better than a gangster rapper when you want to turn right but see the traffic sign says “You can’t turn right”

Men are friendly but women will scream as soon as you say hi to them in public. I thought there was something wrong with me but other men who live in Toronto say they notice the same thing, and men who are visiting Toronto from other cities notice the same thing

The monthly rent for a little tiny room is a bit less than the purchase price of a normal house in other cities

The cell phone bill…. disgusting”

***

Transit sucks, planning sucks/fucking condos/any charming thing is priced out or turned into a condo or Shoppers Drug Mart, violence, lack of support for mental health issues, cost of living vs income is obscene, live to work culture, standoffish/neurotic vibe (many people are lonely too). I can’t wait to get out of here.

This city’s best times are over, and it’s thanks to developers and city officials being greedy and myopic as fuck. You can’t intensify the way they have and completely fail to accommodate this with appropriate transit and infrastructure. They also have failed to protect the businesses and creators that are vital to maintaining a sense of community. But politicians know they won’t get elected if they raise taxes, and they won’t risk their careers to do it once in office. Bunch of corrupt chickenshits that are going to cast a LONG shadow over this place.

Once again, extremely eager to get the hell out of here.”

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“40k might make sense if you have absolutely no life- you’re a drone that lives only to work and you survive off canned food and do nothing when you get home.”

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“Cause they are bored of it and its friggin cold and shitty for alot of the year. I like the idea of florida for thr cold 5 months..rest back to t.o”

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“Not sure if my opinion is valid, but I stayed in Montreal for a year and travelled around Canada for a bit. The thing I didn’t like about Toronto was how…cold it was. The people weren’t very nice and they all seemed to be in a rush. Plus the city itself is very grey and not all that interesting to be in (that is to say, most of the things worth doing are hella expensive)”

***

“Ha, this conversation came up at work today. A colleague from Toronto was at a family reunion out of province this weekend and was shocked that there were boos every time it was announced that someone was from Toronto. He asked us why do people hate Toronto, “everything comes from Toronto and the country wouldn’t be anything without the city.” I guess that kind of mentality is why people are anti-toronto.”

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“I go to school at George Brown on King St.. I hate Toronto because it smells awful. The air is bad. Anyone in the financial district dressed in a suit will look at you like you’re a walking turd trespassing on their turf. I think title of taxi driver in Toronto is actually a scapegoat to be a killer. I’ve been accosted by homeless people, I don’t mean inconvenienced slightly, I mean grabbed and held. Some places in Toronto look really beautiful, I love the parks, like St. James, not far from my college, or High Park. The architecture and history are wicked cool. I especially like the the financial district buildings like Scotia and TD. I love the food. The Markets are really badass too. But the bad outweighs the good.

TL;DR Smelly. Snobby. Taxis. Overzealous beggars.”

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“I lived there, and hated it. Its dirty, expensive, and has too little access to nature and swimmable water.”

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“The sewer smell in a large part of toronto.”

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“Traffic.

EDIT: and litter. It’s worse than other larger cities I’ve visited throughout Canada/US/UK.”

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“You’ve said exactly what my wife and I have been thinking for the past year.

Even with our savings, we cannot afford to buy a home in Toronto without having to spend a few arms and legs. Yet, our wonderful premier doesn’t seem to want to do anything about it is nothing short of shameful. 2018 can’t come soon enough.

I don’t know what’s up with the job market. I’ve been struggling for months to find work, but can’t seem to lock anything down. I’ve never been unemployed for this long. It’s so strange.

Don’t even get me started on the transportation situation in Toronto. City council is a joke when it comes to transit planning (sorry, not sorry), and the last few years under Rob Ford and John Tory are an embarrassment.

I, too, cannot wait to move out of Toronto.”

***

“You hit the nail on the head. I was born/raised in Toronto as well, and once you live away, you can see all of the massive problems the city has. The cost of living is beyond insane, and the the transport network is absolutely atrocious. And nothing ever seems to get better.

I still love visiting, but others can live there. I have my Ph.D. in Engineering and there are better opportunities pretty much everywhere else.”

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“Toronto SUCKS WITHOUT.

If your “6.6, a millionaire and very handsome, your toronto experuience will propbly be a good one. For the rest of us. Toronto is a stuck up fake place full materialistic people set on getting that place on ” the bridle path” some day. Its a cheap high here. Toronto does not have mtns, it has hills. Toronto Has lakes instead of oceans. Their is nothing wild about this place, it is a weird mix of boring and parinoied.

Most of Toronto is designed in such a way that if you sit on your front lawn for too long some one will call the cops out of fear. The streets may as well be rolled up at night on account of very poor design.

Toronto is poor by design. Nothing here is fun, if u have time to have fun you are doing it wrong. Toronto is only about work and eat for more energy to get back to work. People wait all your to get a week off, to do they everyone else does after work.

Fuck this city”

***

I think Toronto is a highly mediocre city, enthralled with itself, devoid of passion, devoid of history, and whose infrastructure is in steep decline. It is a great place to raise kids, and is incredibly tolerant, almost miraculously so, as Pico Iyer has pointed out. But make no mistake: the city is a bore stacked against any of the great cities of the world. It’s still a pleasureless Protestant dullard, obsessed with civics, but it will never make you feel, in any way, the way New York, Paris, Rome or Buenos Aires does. Yes, you can live here happily, but this place will NEVER EVER inspire you.”

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“I’ve lived here for 23 years. I hate the city, I hate some of the people, and as soon as I’m done school, I’m moving. Its too expensive to live here, so I end up taking public transit, and that’s complete crap. if you want to do anything in this city, it costs a arm and a leg. I’m not paying 400k for a crap house when I start working.”

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“Honestly, if you have a choice of Canadian cities, move to Montreal and visit Toronto once a year for a weekend.

I’m living in Toronto for the second time in my life, and though I’m enjoying it much more this time around, I find that it’s still a cultureless, money-hungry, dirty, angry city. There’s a ton to do, and there are some nice neighborhoods (I live in Leslieville now and really like it), but I find it pales in comparison to Van, and especially Montreal.

That being said; it works for some.”

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(Sources: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 )

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“Where I live in Toronto there are no natives, despite the city being more diverse and multicultural and having “diversity is our strength” as its slogan. I guess Toronto is hostile towards natives despite claiming it’s more tolerant.

I have a disdain for this city since last year and want to live somewhere outside Canada in the future.”



Winnipeg: Rants

“The definition of “Winnipeg”:

We love to talk about things. We love to examine things. We love to look for the cheapest possible option. And we love to rally against change. Change of any kind. We don’t want anything new, modern, or state-of-the-art. Oh-unless $0.00 of our tax money is used, of course. 


We do nothing but whine about complain about how every penny of tax money is spent. If it’s going to make Winnipeg a more fun, exciting, desirable place to live, we’re against it before even knowing what it is. Or without even understanding how it will benefit us.

We embrace our “inferiority complex”. Edmonton? Ottawa? Calgary? Well.. they’re all richer than us. They can afford things. We can’t. They’re superior to us, with all their well-to-do citizens. Here? It’s Kraft Dinner nightly and just scraping by with each bi-weekly meager paycheque. 

This is shitty Winnipeg- new, exciting, bold things don’t happen here. Because they’re not supposed to. We’ll join the 21st century when we’re good and ready- and not a moment sooner.

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“You should post that on newwinnipeg.com . A poster by the name of Northender will tell you how safe walking down Selkirk Av and McGregor St at 1:00 AM is. And appearantly we should all move to the North End, becuase it has hardly any crime, and no gangs, according to Northender..

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“Winnipeg sucks, theres nothing to do here, especially in winter when it gets blistering cold to the point, you feel like your limbs are gonna freeze and fall out. The nightscene ain’t all that great, some bars are deader than others on a sat night which is something i don’t understand, i’ve been to other cities like Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal and btw, Montreal is the best city when it comes to this subject, bar none, but back to Weinerpeg, somethings definitely lackin in the nightscene. Then again, theres other problems besides that, for example, no NHL team, shopping experience here is non existent compared to other cities, ugly depressing downtown, shitty roads, mosquitoes the size of vultures, high crime and high car thefts, this city is everything a city shouldn’t be in other words, WINNIPEG SUCKS !!!!!

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“I join to your words. Winnipeg is a sh1thole. I mentioned already in “Winnipeg is a hellhole” topic 10 reasons why Winnipeg sucks.

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“I lived there for a couple of years! It is the worst place in Canada. Terrible people…ugly city…the worst of the worst is in Winnipeg! I so thankful not to be in the worst place in Canada anymore.


“born and raised and i cannot think of a town with such a small minded personna.rampent nimbyisim and a fear of change

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‘The definition of “Winnipeg”:’ An ugly city with dreadful winters not much to do and a bunch of petty, small minded people who’ve convinced themselves contrary to all evidence that they don’t really live in a shithole.

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“Small minded is right. My dad was Scottish, and had worked in many places around the world. He was working in Toronto, but then was transferred to Winnipeg. No one cared where he had been before, or that he wasn’t ‘from the east’ technically speaking…they couldn’t get past the fact he had most recently been working in Toronto. Of course, they hated him even more because the rubes that stayed in Winnipeg had totally f’ed up a project they were working on and someone had to come in and show them how to do it right. 

Most of the spending their is public sector, so no one cares if things go off the rails, but it was a private sector project and they had to try to meet timelines and budgets and discovered that they couldn’t wipe their behinds. 

Anyone with any ambition should get the heck out of there as soon as they are finished high school.

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@ FBOMBER

Where the hell do you downhill ski in Winnipeg LOL. Former landfill sites with t-bar lifts don’t count.

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“Been to winnipeg 4 times, twice i found myself without my vehicle. I don’t plan to return. People weren’t very friendly but I guess u can find that anywhere. It is colder than cold there. Go to vancouver or montreal for a good time.

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“I agree with you on just one point, and that is your point about the sunsets; you can’t see the ugliness that is Winnipeg after the sun vanishes for the night.

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“Just two cents from living experience,,,,I was born and raised here,,,,left this city in 1992 and lived in Vancouver, California and a virtual cornfield of a small town in the US midwest….I got back here two years ago to find Winnipeg is exactly the same as it was in 1992!! The geography, the buildings, the parks, rivers, landscape are perfectly fine and can’t be compared to anywhere else on earth,,,,everywhere on this gorgeous globe is different from another place…..what makes Winnipeg such a horrible city is the fact that every Winnipegger I’ve met, save for 3 of them, in the last two years has made sure to crap all over their own hometown right to my ears!!! I can’t believe the hatred of everything local and afar that I’ve encountered since I got back….If anyone here hasn’t lived in Winnipeg (I did for 3 decades at once),,,,they are speaking from pure ignorance,,,those who speak from personal life experience such as I are more than valid in their opinions of this city-awaiting-holocaust! Gawd I hope to be outta here by Xmas,,,,I came back hoping to invest big time and big $ in this city and I’ve been convinced by every slice of humanity one can imagine that this is the worst place in Canada to even think of settling and being a happy, decent, open-minded human being….I just can’t seem to work up the hatred it seems to take to live here!,,,,lol, I’m too busy working on another business plan!

“The very idea of change or improvement is met with total resistance by everyone I’ve met…this city should be a gravel-roaded panorama of brick buildings, identical rowhouses, and gas light lamps to satisfy the local population. It’s a nightmare of pure hate,,,,not political hate, but just hate for everyone at once, there doesn’t seem to be any exclusions for individual human beings that one can shake hands with…those aren’t real here, only the concepts of whatever “tribe” one associates with is what counts here. 

It’s a factory-built, cheapo southeast Asian import, deep discount, hate-filled, politically incorrect pit of venom and collective diminuation of human beings, cultureless city that should be returned to grassland in my opinion,,,,,I’ve now lived here for 32 years! I’ll never make the mistake of returning to this horror again….EVER!!

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 “Yeh I went to a bar there (male) recently. I was buying a drink when I was surrounded by 5 people (3 male 2 female) Having no previous engagement they surrounded me continuously saying “Your sexy and you know it”! and rubbing my body… believe me I really don’t appreciate being touched by that many people- especially dudes. On my way home all the taxi services let us freeze to death until we literally jumped infront of one. We seen a guy who was laying on the ground covered in blood outside the delta. A few days later that night in another incident a person had been stabbed in an unrelated instance the exact same night.. cops would litterally drive past fighting in the street. THIS IS NOT A CITY TO EVER GO TOO NO MATER WHAT!!! STAY AWAY!!!

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“That’s hilarious! I lived in the North end for just under 20 years. I was SO happy to get out of there. Now, I can accidentally leave something outside overnight and it’s STILL THERE the next morning. Not so in the North End.


It may have been illegal, but I kept a loaded shotgun near my bed every night for the past 15 years. I was lucky in that I never had to use it.

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“Dude, that sounds very creepy. It seems some Winnipegger’s have this need to make unrequested bodily contact, even if you do your best to drop hints, they just don’t get it. There are certain places in the world where they’d be killed for pulling that shit.

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“I lived in that poop hole for over 40 years before I wised up and moved to the maritimes. Winnipeg isin’t friendly, maybe 30 years ago but not now. Once you travel across Canada and see other cities you realize Winnipeg is one big cesspool of filth. This coming from an ex pegger that used to fiercely defend that bunghole. Do yourself a favour and get out of that scum pond.

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“Winnipeg is the largest unofficial aboriginal reserve in the country. They have all the criminal morons here. Earlier, I had some scarred aboriginal dude banging on my door and trying to pick my lock in the door. Called the cops, before they got, he escaped, then 30 minutes later returned and tried to break my door again and this time the cops got him. There are no wards to describe this shithole!!!! I hate this city “downtown” especially! Nothing good here, only crime, scum and run down infrastructure.

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“Your a reason why i hate this city too, F*cking racist, Thats the reason this city is such a shit hole. The city doesn’t try to do anything about it, in poverty stricken areas they set up beer vendors and bars, how the hell will that help anyone progress out of poverty? It won’t. This place will continue to be a sh*t hole since half of the white population hate natives with a passion

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“That has got to be the weakest and most illogical argument I think I’ve ever heard when it comes to Winnipeg’s violent crime problem. Blaming businesses for society’s abuse problems amounts to taking zero responsibility for one’s addictions. If you want to blame anyone, you blame the city of Winnipeg’s Zoning and Bylaw department. By the way, there’s a certain pawn shop in the city that happens to be conveniently located inside the same building as a bar and beer vendor, originally funded by a greedy Metis businessman who took advantage of impoverished people for decades. Maybe you should look at the actions of your own people before blaming society for your misfortunes. Grow up and take some responsibility and quit playing the race card as an excuse.

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“Most of the natives are the welfare sucking scumbags in this country, it is a fact.

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“What are you talking about skiing. The place is so flat. There. No skiing.there are no hills. Who ever plays hockey is moronic. The only thing to do in this province is drink. Or bang your head against a wall until you pass out and don’t have to deal with this s@$t hole!

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“lived here for soo many years and finally moving.

“Winnipeg is an obscure city, never seen mor young wannabes with no drive, inbreds, low intelligence and then an infrastructure like a third world country.

Let us not forget the lovely downtown but we are bonuses with lovely st James, polo park is fun but but not overshadowed by the north end, and no I didn’t forget about transcona.

It seems that all of the countries immigrants, this year 20 000 of them came here with a housing shortage for its own inhabitants.

Multiculturalism has never will never and doesn’t work.


We are a country where we are not individual and special snowflakes the government wants to sell you and the bleeding heart liberals eat up like a big Mac for an overweight cougar in a short dress and clear heels.


Have you been to wal mart in st vital lately, I felt I was in Nigeria a d Turkey at the same time.


With a small population density underplayed lower class, high welfare and natives flourishing here from reserves we have a beautiful city.


Of course there are always exceptions but on the whole it remains

One true great city doesn’t it?

Funny how we complain about the natives and immigration in private to one another.

Maybe we should take heed from Germany and stop immigration and give our mothers 3 years of maternity leave and yes paid, then per kindergarten for half a day with a person watching over them for free in the afternoon as well as for kindergarten, but probably too expensive for Canada hell immigration is more fun, you never know what ya get.
Enjoy, gettin out.

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“Bleeding heart freaks then invite 2 natives to live in your house for free.

Or go for a walk downtown this evening, nicely dressed, anytime this evening after 7 is ok.

Hmmmmmm guess you know better, city is full of thieves, killers, crack heads, I saw a native teenager take a small cat and twist its head, snapping it, then throw it in an
Ally. 

Maybe the bleeding hearts can help rehabilitate him?
Go eat in the food court at polo park anytime, see what’s up…..lol
Or maybe you will get mugged in the malls foyer, or your car stolen.

Winnipeg and welfare, never been on it, needed it once but had too much pride and pulled through my hard times s o long ago, point is we give handouts easily, wish I was native and an immigrant, cause I would get native benefits and immigration benefits of free dental, free prescription and non prescription drugs, 2 years free college and free university for natives, why go on, getting out of this whole of a city and country.

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“Your obviously inept or were dropped on your head as a child, possibly have fetal alcohol syndrome or are all of the above including a crack baby.


Enjoy the city, gettin out and lived in Europe for 10 years and ths city let alone country offers nothing. 


Why do you think there re so many expats, if you don’t understand the word look it up, you sound like an uneducated child.

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“It is a shit hole consumed by people living through their children’s lives, keeps them from thinking about their own life. Worst city to breed in.

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“A big Brandon

Full of rednecks, inbreds and ho’s
All small businesses fail and makes me so happy to watch them go out of business
Life is good

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“You need to be at least a part time drunk to fit in this place. I have no problem with the weather, it is what it is. I can’t stand how many natives (don’t mean to generalize but it’s true) are involved in crime. It’s everywhere. I live in the south end(supposedly safe) and its shit. My friend was brutally murdered for no reason by a 17&15 year old native boys. Total joke. The city is pretty damn ugly. The people for the most part are so close minded it’s not even funny. Everyone knows everyone literally. It’s pathetic. Once I’m done university I’m leaving for a long time before my ass comes back.

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“Winnipeg is a joke. Traffic is retarted and so are the people. All “attractions” are a joke. Downtown. In every other Canadian city is lively, vibrant and never sleeping. Winnipegs downtown is full of deadbeats, it’s dirty, and if you’re there alone you probably ain’t coming back. It’s such a joke. But wait the jets will make everything better. And are new statium well that just ozes salvation from its every pore.

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“Hmmm…have you been to any other Canadian city? Because the downtowns in all of the cities are dead at night. A little bit less dead in Montreal and Toronto, but then only on weekends for the most part. I was in Vancouver a few months back and I remember thinking how quiet the city was at night, even by Winnipeg’s standards. Canada is not Europe. Been to Vancouver’s Downtown East Side? How’s that for deadbeats…lots of used needles, real clean. You need to get out more, seriously. There’s a lot to do if you look for it. Check out your leisure guide. Check out different parts of the city for cycling or a long walk.

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“agree completely. i have been hear a year and a half and currently on the way out. disgusting, ugly city with horrific weather. to say the people are friendly is a major over statement and undtrue. people are depressed and nasty. Can’t wait to get out of here.

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“Let’s change the logo on the licenceplates from ” Friendly Manitoba” to “Weird Winnipeg”! People are walking around fearful or with their noses in the air. It is either self centered jerks or self absorbed snobby women. I have been told to ” eff off…I can get my own door” for politely holding a door open for a gal going into the Bay downtown. We are too conservative for our own good…afraid to try something new. I am becoming ashamed to say I am from here.

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“I’ve been dying for a place to complain for the last 30 years… when I moved to Winnipeg from Florida. Yes, I got married to a Manitoban. 


Not only was it cold and unfriendly (compared to where I came from), there were no trees or hills or anything that warranted looking at. I tried and tried for 15 years. I was scared of going out into the prairie landscape, it was moonscape, and it felt so far from civilization, I felt stranded. I was depressed and suicidal. Finally (13 yrs. ago) we moved to Ottawa — HALLELUJAH — and I began having nightmares that we’d come back to Winnipeg and couldn’t get back home to Ottawa. I refused to go visit friends there for 10 years because it gave me the heebie jeebies to think about it. I had nightmares about Higgins Street, about driving in ruts in the snow, about long never-ending cold days, about mosquitoes and bad neighbours. I don’t think there’s anybody in the world who hates Winnipeg more than I do.

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“never post here but really felt I needed to comment. I notice that almost all the Peg defenders cannot use grammar properly nor can they form a cohesive arguement. When one says, “Your a dumbass” what one really means is you are a dumbass or you’re a dumbass. Second, calling someone names like “mentally ill” does not prove your (not you’re) arguement- in fact, mental illness is just that- an illness and in the wider world is recognised as such. The education system in Winnipeg contributes to what a truly aweful place this is and creates this shared delusion that MB is ‘friendly’ and a great place to live. Look up the national education testing and see where your education ranks. As for the universities- my cat could get into UofM as long as I paid the tuition lol.

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“I have been to every major city North, South, East and West of Wpg. – having travelled the whole country by car over 3 – 4 months, and it is not what other cities are. The collective consciousness of this city is imbalanced and odd. Wpg’ ers are known to be narrow minded and cheap. Our infrastructure is awful. We have 3rd world poverty in our front yards. Our poverty baseline is 10 000 a year when the rest of Canada’s is $12 500. Crime is high. Downtown is unsafe. I have never felt connected to living here, and I was and raised here. I’m looking to move to TO where there is life everywhere when you walk the streets.

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“If I owned Winnipeg & Hell, I’d live in Hell – and rent out Winnipeg to some poor sap. Winnipeg truly is the worst city on this Earth.

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” It’s the most horrible “farm town”ever, I hate the we will mind your business for you attitude that I hate the most here. That and the ignorance and stupidity of most Winnipeggers. 


I hate WHA, Manitoba Employment Services (welfare), Winnipeg Harvest, United Way, and so many self serving so called charities here. 


It’s nothing but people who want to look down at others who live in a worst situation. I know for a fact that that rich here laugh at the natives in their faces, and think all problems are native ones. 

People in Winnipeg are also prejudice and hateful, the worst people i ever seen anywhere.  To build a human rights museum here is the worlds biggest insult to humanity.

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“WHAT MONTREAL IS NOT DEAD AT NIGHT. 

And Trust me Winnipeg is a shit hole, but mostly it’s because it caters to morons, the bottom feeders and the rich who pray on the weak. People here believe making less is a good thing, idiots !

Winnipeg is designed to keep you poor, and struggling so you can’t leave it. As a car city it forces young people to buy a car, and then they are in the trap.  


If you speak up about the problems, these mansion lead idiots who control everything here make legal trouble for you,and keep you stuck lopping though the courts, destroying peoples lives and pushing people in suicide.  


They social workers kill baby’s and get protection in doing so. This is what kind of place Winnipeg really is. Trust me 88% of places in North America you can earn more and you don’t have to be stuck living around these haters.  


The glass is actually greener in most places compared to the frozen hell hole.

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“Been here 1 week and planning on getting out. Streets are ridiculously full of snow yet thats what passes as grated. UGLY city. No class. Looks like a wasteland. Very disappointed but the good news Im just 2 hrs from beautiful Ontario. The only good thing that EVER came out of this hole was the birth of The Who. Imagine poor old Burton Cummings growing up here? No wonder he escaped. No fucking Beer stores No beer stores that deliver???? Are you kidding me? What a joke. This twon needs an enema. The asshole of Canada literally where all the shit ends up. Winner-peg. NOT!

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“Its the Guess Who. The WHO are a british band, with Pete Townsend, John Entwhistle, Keith Moon and Roger Daltry

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“I reluctantly returned to Winnipeg in July 2012 (for family reasons) after spending the previous 15 years out east (mostly in Montreal, with a few years in Quebec City and Toronto).


I have tried to keep an open mind. I’ll admit that there ARE enough activities in Winnipeg to keep people busy (theatre, arts, sports, outdoors), so this is not the problem.


My three main issues are: 


1. Wages really are lower here for the “average” person [i.e. nonprofessional but with a university education]. The exception would be if you work for the government, for Hydro, or for a national/multinational company, which all allow you to live in relative luxury with a lower level of education. The fact that Winnupeg has a lower unemployment rate just means (I speculate) that more people have lost hope and have taken those $10-$12/hr jobs that are so plentiful here. 


2. Winnipeg does not offer a god variety of housing (type, size, price range). A decent-sized, quality condo seems overpriced in Winnipeg. I was prepared to buy a place here, but the longer I stay, the more reluctant I am to actually buy property. Reasonably priced rentals are mostly awful mid-rises, 3-level walkups, or 1950s bungalows. You should be able to rent a decent place for $1000/mo. in Winnipeg, but I see that conditions changed while I was gone. Take a look at Realtor.ca to see what kinds of condos $225,000 (or less) will get you in Montreal or Quebec City; then compare them to what you can get in Winnipeg. Yes, Winnipeg real estate tends to offer better value per sq. foot (and income tax is lower), but we can never compete with the quality of life and variety in those other places. We don’t have much variety in neighbourhoods here—it’s either Osborne Village (good but still sketchy), Corydon/Lilac (stellar by Winnipeg standards), the Exchange (attractive and unique, but I would still be reluctant), or St. Boniface (some rough spots, but at least you can easily walk to those other neighbourhoods mentioned). Wolesley is nice, but surrounding neighbourhoods have some pretty serious problems (just watch the local news for a few days). I haven’t forgotten the suburbs; they’re just not worth mentioning. Seen one, seen ’em all. 


3. No matter what anyone says, you will eventually need a car in Winnipeg unless you have no family or friends to visit. I’m “low/middle income” but I never felt poor taking public transit in Montreal, QCity or Toronto—but a bus ride in Winnipeg is the most disheartening and humbling (read: depressing) experience I can get for my money. People who are against greenhouse gas emissions haven’t taken the bus to/from work in Winnipeg on a daily basis. Two days of commuting will cure such people of their environmental consciousness and send them car shopping with a smile. 


In conclusion, I’ll be leaving Winnipeg as soon as my family duties are fulfilled, or as soon as I crack (whichever comes first). At this point, I would welcome either possibility, but I am nervously coming to accept that I could be here for years. 


After I leave, I will only return to Winnipeg as a bag of ashes to be dropped into the ground. The only real estate investment worth making here is a cemetery plot (and I might even try to get a refund on that purchase at some point). 


If you are considering moving to Winnipeg, it should be for a very good salary. Save as much money as you can and then leave at the first opportunity. Having family and friends here will dull the pain but not cure it.

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“You would be very surprised. Everyone who “loves Winnipeg” is just justifying their idiotic decision to remain.


It has gotten so much worse here in the last while. The crime, the ever increasing taxes, the ever-increasing human garbage walking the streets, the moronic attitudes of the people…even the odd gem like Grand Beach is disappearing under a blanket of toxic blue-green algae. 


Retirement is coming soon for me, moving to Ontario with half the provincial & property taxes and 1/10 the crime. And two months of winter instead of six.

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 “Tucker I lived in Montreal 6 years, it’s not dead at all over night. Winnipeg is dead by 6 PM on a Friday. The unemployment rate is slightly less in Winnipeg region. I never been paid less then $11/hr a student a few years back. Many places higher, same job in Winnipeg pay min, and have less hours. Money goes further also in Montreal for poorer people, food is cheaper and transportation is about the same, yet you get around on time on a fully underground metro system. Then there is buses which come every 6 min, and night buses to prevent being fully stuck at nigh like in the Peghole. 


Winnipeg is not even a city, far as i am concerned, it an over sized farm town ! 

I could stop and look up statscan numbers too, in fact i am more qualified to read those numbers then most people. I also know I that though unemployment numbers read higher in Montreal, family income is also higher. On the other hand many natives that live in Winnipeg on government funds or no funds don’t tell the government they stay in Winnipeg 90% of the time, so add about 5000 more people to the overall numbers of poor. Plus, unemployed in Montreal lasts until your high paying job has new contracts, in Winnipeg it means you looking for more low pay jobs.  

I can assure you Montreal is a lot more fun, safer, and has bigger opportunities for people then Winnipeg.

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“Went for a walk today in filthville manitoba. Dunkirk and St Mary’s road and a back lane. Recyclibles everywhere on sidewalks and boulevards thrown fron cars. Broken glass including beer bottles. Vodka bottle. Paper, cig wrappings. Dog shhit on the sidewalk. One huge stool sample that might be from a shindleman. What a disgrace.

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“I made the mistake of marrying a woman in Winnipeg when I was just supposed to be passing through on my from Ontario to Alberta. Was duped into thinking the woman I married would move soon after the wedding. I wasted 23 years of my life in that shit hole. I finally left the Winnipeg Gulag 2005. I don’t have a single nice thing to say about the shit hole. I fCNg hate the place. I say bulldoze the entire city and leave it to the skeeters and lazy ass Indians and the rest of the deadbeats.

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“It’s just horrible Francesca, and now with the quick melt and the rain there is large amounts of dog poop floating in my neighbour’s yard. I feel like I am at risk of typhus or worse, and I’m worried that this will contaminate my garden and flower beds. 

Then there’s people like JTF who contribute to the problem by allowing their dogs to bark and foul public parks and boulevards. Such slobs. 

If the city would charge $2500 for 5 years ($500/year…very reasonable) it would have a source of much needed revenue and the irresponsible dog owners, who sad to say are a large majority, would be much reduced in number. Part of the licence fee would be a requirement to watch a short video on responsible dog ownership and then to pass a written test.

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“This is what I mean. Nobody wants to deal with all this mess from other people’s dogs.

Don’t know what drugs this clown is on. Winnipeg has three non-stop international flights: Minneapolis, Chicago and Denver. Everywhere else requires connections, and it is very expensive to fly from YWG because of lack of competition.

 I wish the city would get going on spring cleanup. Whats the hold up? Its like this every year, as if they act like flood..duh whats a flood? Or litter and D-shit, whats that? Or potholes, what are potholes? Get goin on these things NOW!!!

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“Walking downtown, and around the north is like playing russian roulette, “is that neech gonna come at me or not?”.

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I went through winnipeg .. Great place to take a Crap

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“The reality is with all the litter, it is not a very attractive city. I’m embarrassed to say where I live when I travel. 


100 years ago it was considered Canada’s most beautiful city. Then came the wrecking balls and depressing brutalist architecture.  


And why is it that they have to use so much gravel on the streets? Other cities with similar climates don’t do this. I guess one of the gravel pit owners is someone’s buddy.

One week ’til May long and what a mess this city is.

 The street sweepers do a terrible job of cleaning all the sand and it builds up from year to year.


Why aren’t they out now cleaning up the mess? Why are they waiting?

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“Winnipeg is a dump, I lived in the city for 10 years but luckily moved out West to Alberta. I’m out here for only a week, Thank the lord.


Nothing changes in this city except it’s cost which goes up. Here’s a few things I love about this city:


Pot holes you can drown in


The shittiest roads I’ve ever seen


Mosquitos the size of tennis balls


Brutal winters


Worst drivers hands down


17.50 for a pack of smokes now


Lots of crime


Dirty streets


Boring


Lots of drug addicts and crazy Indians


Pissed of people everywhere


This is the only city I’ve been in where half the people you see walking around are wearing dirty old sweat pants and a dirty shirt, And where the traffic is so congested panhandlers can actually squeegee your front AND back window. Ever try and run into a convenience store to grab something quick? Good luck you’re probably going to get stuck behind several gambling addicts blowing their welfare cheques on scratch tickets.


To the insane people trying to compare Winnipeg to Montreal, Pull your heads out of your asses. There is no comparison whatsoever, And this is coming from a white skinned red blooded conservative who likes to hate on Quebec frequently. Montreal is clean, Has nightlife, Lots of things to do, Is safe, GORGEOUS woman and so much more.


I could go on and on but don’t take my word for it, Come down and experience it for yourself if you haven’t yet. Just take my advice and pack light because once you’re here, You won’t be staying long.

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“Worst city I’ve ever had the misfortune of spending the night in. I’d rather kill my family one by one with my bare hands than make them suffer living in that hell. Do the Jets a favor, let them go back to Atlanta!

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“I agree with all the comments about this city.It’s lacking in so many ways.There are some positives,but I feel the negatives totally outweigh them.I keep myself busy and try n shut out everything in this town that pisses because I’m happy go lucky,but it’s hard.For me the winter n peoples attitudes are a deal breaker. Iv’e been fortunate to live all over Canada due to my work n this city doesn’t pass the grade.I’ll keep my cottage here because it’s peaceful to go to but I plan to retire to the BC valley.Definitely not here! One last thing, everyones entitled to their opinion but when you start to denigrate others just because you don’t agree with what they say…it just helps validate the negativity people feel they experience here.

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“Lived in Winnipeg for 3 years and when I left it was one of the happiest days of my life. I found the people not especially friendly, unaware of life beyond Winnipeg, stuck in a time warp, petty and cheap. Food in the restaurants (not the vile fast food and chains) left a lot to be desired and the coffee always vile. Yes, its a cheap place to live in terms of rents and housing but who wants to come and live in Winnipeg? not exactly a destination or city of dreams.

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“The city’s growth has stagnated, and try as they might, those in positions of authority don’t realize that Wiinipeg will never be big. So, they should take their heads out of the sands and build on the smallness of the city, instead of letting urban sprawl continue to be the spreading cancer that is ruining it.

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“I was at Broadway and Spence last week and could smell pig barns. Today in St Vital I smell Brady road. That’s Manitoba thinking, have gross stinky things close enough to Winnipeg so we can smell it. Its not as bad as cig smoke but its bad or biker B.O., but its bad.

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“Hey don’t worry, you’ve got a $351 million human rights museum now! That was definitely money well spent. I can’t think of a single thing that would have been a better investment. You’ll have that money back, and more, in no time. It’s going to draw people from all over the world, just to see it.


This is what I have noticed in my twelve years in this city:


1) This city has a very poor economy!


2) The infrastructure is laughable! This city is clearly mismanaged!


3)There is a very high crime rates!


4) This is pretty boring! There is very little to do! That’s a fact!


5) This is very cliquish and rude. That ”Friendly Manitoba” is a myth!


6) Downtown is very dumpy! Winnipeg is mainly in a poor and neglected state!


7) There is no LRT! The Winnipeg Transit is so ridiculous!


Hopefully one day this city will improve!


I forgot to mention that this city is full of nepotism!

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“You left out we love garbage strewn on our streets and back lanes. We expect dog shit on our sidewalks left by responsible owners who DON’T bag it then throw the bag in the bush. We only want to drink beer, yell and train dogs to bark.

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“WOW. The funniest thing about winnipegers is that many are delusional about how utterly horrendous this climate is. They think it’s the same everywhere in Canada. It’s not. There is nowhere colder, for more consecutive days, than here. Not by a long shot. But nice try. Maybe if you left shitty Manitoba you would realize this.

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“Well….I’ve noticed that renting an apartment in Winnipeg is EXTREMELY difficult. All these stupid landlords and rental companies want a letter from your employer, pay stubs, at least 2 rental references, you have to have been at your job for more than 6 months, your complete credit history, a deposit required with the application, and it takes 3 days to process your rental application.

…..and the apartments aren’t even nice. They are dumps! Doesn’t appear they want any out-of-towners moving in. This bullcrap sure turned me away! Man Winnipeg sucks!

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“I agree with you 1000%! This city is a sad joke! What a dump!

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I live in Winter-plague, and this place never fails to disappoint me. I WANT to like it here… I really do. Because I’m not some loser, I’m about to graduate University and my husband has 2 Doctoral degrees. We can make it here, easy, and give us 10 years and boy after we know everyone, life becomes gravy.


But FUCK MAN, is it worth it to be stuck rubbing elbows with these self-proclaimed “friendly” hypocrites for the next few decades of my life?? Everyone here is completely shut down to anyone they didn’t grow up with. Making friends here, no matter how many popular Winnipeg names you drop, is impossible. There are no play-dates, no afternoon drinks with the girls, no surfing the scene downtown (yuck by the way), there’s NO LIFE if you didn’t grow up here. You could be a millionaire… there are lonely saps that come out of their lonely homes each spring driving their Ferrari’s the 3 Kilometres from work to home just to get noticed and all anyone does is avoid looking at them at the red lights, and god knows how long they’ve lived here.


You have to be a total shut-in to live here, because summers aren’t long enough to actually DO anything with any property you buy. The attractions here get old… FAST. I’ve only been to the forks 4 times and I’ve almost memorized the entire blue prints and each store. Same goes for Osbourne Village, Polo Park and pretty much every park in town. You park your car, and shut your brain off before you get out to avoid feeling sick from the repetition of doing the same thing over and over again.


Winter…. ugh, winter. And the COPS… NEVER IN MY LIFE have I seen a police officer stop people by walking out into coming traffic on Bishop Grandin and standing there like they want to be road kill! Are you kidding me? That’s how i got my first ticket here, and I just wanted to say “Are you an idiot, or something? Is issuing a speeding ticket really worth risking your life, or putting me in prison?” Just stupid.


Customer Service is shit across the board here, but i’m not sure if that’s all of Canada or just Manitoba.


Downtown is plain old Scary. My mom is visiting in a week and i can’t even take her downtown, because i’m too embarrassed to tell her “hold onto your purse and don’t make eye contact”.


And the Mosquitos… they’re just bad. Really, really bad. Bad enough to make you spend that precious day in the mid 80’s after 7 months of bitter cold inside, exhausted of itching and being assaulted by the buzzing little beasties.


And I don’t drink, so that erases about 85% of the activities Winnipegers apparently do with their spare time.


The Bombers are just terrible. Of course the irony in their name… the bombers that bomb every game.. is not lost on my husband and I.


I could go on and on and on. Don’t move to the peg. It’s horrible.

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“Your infrastructure sucks. Your city planners suck. Your roads are poorly built and 60 years ago they should have built a bipass and evacuated it.

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“Canada is rapidly declining economically, it’s not just Winnipeg. I believe Canada has now slipped to 14th place in the world in terms of living standards from second forty years ago. All one has to do is drive a few hours south to see how this county is really falling behind and the U.S. has struggled too! The prices here are astronomical and with the low wages and very high taxes, especially sales taxes, which really hurt the middle income earners and the poor, living standards are becoming more difficult to maintain, and for the most part have been subsidized only by cheap credit.


Recently a presidential candidate in the U.S. acknowledged that “real” unemployment in that country is 18% to 20%, triple the official rate. This must also be true for Canada. Time to increase immigration and bring in more TFWs! Great policy! Let’s all work for minimum wage (or less, because people are too scared to complain) with no overtime, benefits or holidays! Believe it or not, even the NDP, a supposedly social-democratic party advocates this! 


So people, instead of blaming all your woes on Winnipeg, think again. I agree the winters suck, but they do just about everywhere in Canada! I think they are worse in the East, despite being somewhat milder!

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“Look at what is happening in downtowns across the country: Beautiful condo towers and office buildings are rising in Edmonton, Calgary, Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, Vancouver. They are vibrant, with people and great restaurants and shopping…downtown Winnipeg still looks the way it did decades ago. Winnipeg is a shithole, and it will be stuck in the 70s forever.

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“I go to Ottawa once a year and there is a lot happening there. Not Calgary level but I see condos (low rise and high rise) being built in a number of areas in and surrounding downtown. Winnipeg is a depressing city. I am an urban dweller, and will move from Winnipeg soon. Lone Wolf, maybe you do not know Winnipeg because all around downtown is run down. Use the boundaries Main, Logan, Sherbrook and Portage and you will see run down houses, industrial wasteland, empty lots, decrepit storefronts. This area needs billions in investment.


So many parts of Winnipeg not only downtown look abandoned. Since downtown is the heart of the city, it is crucial to redevelop it. One stretch that needs investment is Princess from Logan to Notre Dame. So many derelict buildings need cleaning and conversion. With the expansion of the Museum of Man and Nature, what a perfect time to redevelop the McLaren and fill in more lots around the area. Sadly no developer seems to have vision. Winnipeg will always be the butthole of Canada while it is left in the dust by other cities. Sad.

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Social agencies; public money; no private investment; no life on the street other than drunk aboriginals staggering around

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“I’ve been here for 8 years now the people are the meanest on this planet & boy when you get in the roads it like they purposely try and kill you no respect. Why does the licence plate say “Friendly Manitoba” when the people hear don’t even know the meaning of the word. Instead they should replace that slogan with “”Muderous Manitoba” at least that would be the truth

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“Don’t get me started on how useless most of the instructors and directors are at Red River college. DON’T waste your money. If there is one thing I’ve learnt, it’s not what you know it’s who you know with that college.


Take your money to another province and stay there, Winnipeg sucks

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“This city is full of garbage. Go under the MidTown bridge and see the amount of crap down there. But be careful not to wake the person living under there.

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“Manitoba and Winnipeg are backward and unfriendly. Thank you but no thank you.

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“I did time there for a few years, and yes, that is how it felt. People are unfriendly, narrow, mean, and openly racist. Worst six years of my life. They are not used to ‘outsiders’ and why would they be? Who in their right mind would willingly move there?

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“I like your comment and I agree with you 10000%! The place is just a real nightmare! I’m so surprised how unfriendly and narrow mind this place is!

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“Winnipeg is a horrible city to live in.Our transit system is ridiculous.I can’t count how many times I’ve been waiting for a bus,only to have one cruise right on by because it’s completely packed full.Rapid transit,my ass.


I can count on one hand how often I’ve had a bus arrive on time,no joke!.And the people are stuck up and selfish.I can’t wait until I’m in a position to move!.

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“This will be a great day when the Winnipeggers will stop to be unrealistic about their city! Winnipeg is not great! It’s a miserable and backward place!

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“Still a boring and dangerous dumpy place !

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“Say whatever you want, kiddo ! It doesn’t change the fact that Winnipeg is a dumpy, backward and miserable has been city ! A real nightmare !

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“I put my time in Winnipeg for 8 long years . The infrastructure in Winnipeg is 30 years behind. Traffic lights still work off of timers, there are no timed lights. Railroad tracks run throughout the center of the city with no underpasses . It’s impossible to get anywhere quickly. The so call savior called the Perimeter runs so far away from the core of the city that it’s only use is for people trying to avoid the city altogether. The boulevards are unkempt and ugly and the roads are either in disrepair or are always being repaired for literally months. The weather is what it is and there is nothing that will change that. What can be changed never changes. It’s a shame because I heard that at one time years back Winnipeg was supposed to be one of the most forward and modern thinking cities. It’s now considered the biggest hick town in Canada. Whatever politicians that have been in power have made a mess out of a city full of good well intentioned people and potential. I would assume they don’t even reside there anymore themselves after making such a mess of things. I’ll never move back. I’ve been to too many other places and I have the insight to compare. I don’t mean to be negative. I just find it sad that such a forward city is now so backwards and unattractive.

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“So how do these crooks that pillaged a potentially good place get away with This? Is Manitoba amnesty island for politicians? There is a difference between being friendly Manitoba and push overs I hope. Katz was a crook. He declared real estate as his primary residence down south even as he was a Mayor in Winnipeg. So what’s up with that? Higher Taxes to pay for his lawyers?

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(Source: http://www.topix.com/forum/ca/winnipeg-mb/TEV9GQE2NRKHITTCS)

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“There are many places way worse than Winnipeg. There are better places than Winnipeg.”

you forgot to add the “many” in “better places”. there are MANY better places than winnipeg. i find it hilarious that you have to compare winnipeg to a god damn third world country in terms of living. a first grader would obviously know whats a better place to live, try comparing winnipeg to other cities in canada, where its one of the worst cities to live in.

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“One word MURDER CAPITAL. Fact. Oscar_the_grouch’s advice is…use common sense and avoid winnipeg, take the perimiter when travelling past the city. oh yah.

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“Please…. Winnipeg is the shithole of Canada and everyone knows this.

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“winnipeg is a small shithole city,the north end is all about murder,winter’s are long and cold -40ish to -50ish…I can go on and on..lol

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“i lived in winnipeg till i got a job in calgary and moved about a year and a half ago, the last year has been pretty much the best year of my life. I feel sad for the people who are to stupid to leave winnipeg. Please leave there, you will thank yourself for leaving every day like i do.

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“I F ing hate this city, will move as soon as possible. Can’t because I own a business. Its boring and has the most depressing negative vibe. I was just in Mexico (a third world country) and felt safer, the infrastructure was in better shape, and people friendlier. All trip over a drunk bum daily and just want to kick them in the face. The NDP government is a joke, wants a construction labourer to get paid $21/hr. Double what a broom pusher gets paid in other cities. Terrible drivers, rude people with no drive. I could go on and on. If you can leave run, don’t look back. Most people born here just don’t realize how much better any other city in Canada is. RUN, GO, RUN.

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“Winnipeg is a hell hole. Those that like it should be working oon the next propaganada ” Why we love Winnipeg” program. I have never met so many a-holes in my life like here and the drivers are idiots.

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“winnipeg is like a disease, it sucks but you just cant seem to shake it. “the devil you know” is an apt phrase.

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“Winnipeg sucks cause behind calgary it is the most RACIEST province in canada. If your of colour or native, your in trouble. The justice system favers the white and punishes that nonwhite. I guess its easier to faver those who look like you and vilify those who dont. I am a person of colour and I grew up in winnipeg. My friends told me it was like this but stupid me said No! No!. Over the past few years I now see the truth about this hole. Winnipeg and calgary are canadas version of the U.S south. The only difference is in the south tey tell you to your face and here it’s hidden.

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“Bottom line, winnipeg is a shithole and should be wiped clean from the ass of the planet, manitoba

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“Winnipeg is the intestines of Canada.

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“Anyone that likes Winnipeg needs to get a mental assessment. Seriously this place is a big time toilet. I have never met so many a-holes, bad drivers and walking zombies in my life. Any time I leave the city I am reminded what normal people are like. Idiots still chant ” Go Jets GO” how pathetic and the roads. Stop with the propaganda as well like ” Spirited Energy” what kind of BS is that. Why in the world do I need to be told why I need to like a place. Oh yeah Manitoba Home coming major event ” Biggest Social” This place is a bad joke as soon as I can I am outta here and won’t miss the a-holes and anything about this hell hole.

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“Well here is the interesting point you brought up. They made the public believe that because of the cold the roads are bad here yet you go to Grand Forks and the roads are excellent. So much for the typical Winnipeg brainwash BS, The roads are bad because you have people in power who don’t care they just want there pay checks. I worked in the city and know this to be true. This city is a toilet. Oh yeah come here in the Winter so many lazy a-holes don’t shovel there side walks. One Great city my ass. This place is a bad joke.

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“Winnipeg is a shithole. It is a city filled with low wage ignorant, scared low-mid level bureaucrat types. As well as a healthy dose of non-english speaking immigrants to clean their houses and wash laundry. There are no new buildings in Winnipeg everything is old and falling apart. Anyone with a brain gets the hell out and never goes back. All thats left is losers to stupid or too scared to leave.

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“Hahahahaha… So the ’50 year’ rainstorm has forced boil water advisories across Winnipeg. How fitting as Winnipeg is Canadas very own Third World city.. So as the “100 year flood” seems to be happening every 10 years or so now.. I guess we can expect a “50 year rainstorm” every couple of weeks then? LMAO… 

Now that the arctic winter is over.. The big pile of dust and muck and slop that is spring is well underway in Canadas Third World Metropolis. They can now look forward to a malaria epidemic this summer with all the still water from the rains breeding deadly mosquito hordes……lololol…  

Oh wait.. they can battle that by pumping millions of gallons of cancer causing insecticide into the lungs of all the citizens and especially the children to prevent it.. maybe.. But at the least It adds to the toxic cocktail leftover in the water table from the floods.. mmm mmmmm good! 


And people wonder why its so cheap to live in Canadas very own Third World Metropolis.

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“Winnipeg lacks class and culture it tries to pretend it is a real city but it is a toilet. World Cup is on and most cities have cultural events here the big story is the all you can eat Buffet.

Spend some time in any other major city in Canada and you will come to learn how classless and how many redneck morons live in Winnipeg.

I am amazed how many walking zombies live here. I have never met so many dumb ignorant people as here the only people that I have met who have any ability to hold a conversation are not from Winnipeg originally. 


Look at the foreigners wives eyes they are sad because they despise this place and wish to go back to a normal place.

Winnipeg sucks with or without a NHL team. Can’t wait to get out of this toilet.

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 “Winnipeg is the worst city in Canada! and yes, before you tell me to leave…that is what I am going to do. Winnipeg has nothing to offer. it is rude, negative and very unfriendly.

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“The number one past time in Winterpig Murdertoba is petty gossip. No one with half a brain stays there unless they were born there. I’ve been stuck in this hole so long…thank God I can afford to move VERY SOON HALLA F’n LUJAH!!!!!!!!!! Get me the f outta here!!!!!! Even traveling kids and sq bums say people are rude and snoopy …and there’s too much crime and the locals rip off like mad

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“Yup This play is creepy as well. I have never met so many weirdos in my life as I have here. Most people look and walk like zombies. There are good people but oddly enough they were not born here. I agree firecracker I have never met so many rude and snoopy people in my life as here. Plus the energy here is messed up I know people who moved here and there wives started to lose there minds and in order to save the marriages they had to move right away because they knew this place is bizarre. It also seems like when people come travel here they get robbed how many times have you read int he paper that someone from X was visiting and got robbed and these are the ones they are willing to type about. I wonder what kind of propaganda BS “I love Winnipeg” campaign they will come up with next. The politicians here are greasy and dirty. Look at the mayor he is a bad joke.

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“Winnipeg is evil. The vibe here is bizarre and twisted. I have never met so many people who are alcaholics, needing any reason to drink or so many people on anti-depressents. 

I know of people who moved here from other cities and within a couple of years the wife starts to go bananas.

She knows this is place is messed up that is why so many get drunk here whenever they can it is the only way they can stand this place. It is a toilet.

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 “Yeah great mayor who is running for relection lol


Wow…busy weekend for the Peg….

* Man shot on Main Street in Winnipeg
* Human head found in water at The Forks
* Shots fired near downtown Winnipeg
* 3 men stabbed in Winnipeg

 Winnipeg is the detroit of Canada. They have a moron of a mayor who just looks after his buddies while the toilet keeps getting bigger.

Oh yeah gotta love the mosquitos.
One Great city all right. lol
Can’t wait to get out of this ring of hell you have to be crazy to think this is “One Great city”.
Or your drunk like most Peggers like to get.

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“Murder capital, car theft capital, poverty capital, etc. Yes – Winnipeg is the assh*le of Canada and to all those Peggers who’s comebacks are “if you don’t like it then leave”, maybe you should try leaving the suburbs and see what’s really going down. The crime is spreading and soon enough it will be at your front door, then maybe you will shut the f*ck up and admit the problems are real! Your chances of being knifed are pretty damb high, or worse yet having your loved one killed by a stolen speeding car! You can’t go downtown, to the north end the Detroit of Canada, the west end with it’s shotgun wielding thugs, trashcona the druggy neighborhood, and the list keeps growing. The city is filthy and there are tons of racists of every ethnicity here. Hick city!

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“Winnipeg is Canada’s Bogan (google it) Capital. Bogan sums it all up and says it all about this city!

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“Yup Winnipeg Sucks the life out of most people that is why so many people eat and drink so much it is to hide the feelings of emptiness. So many morons live here amazing.

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“I’m shocked! Winnipeg has ‘everything’ going for it; the list is too long to post but I’ll start with:


(1) Robins at the corner of Selkirk and Salter; great place to enjoy a coffee and watch degenerates roaming the street and hitting up on teen prostitutes.


(2) the cross walk immediately south of Thunderbird House on Main Street; great place to watch bulbous-nosed degenerates roaming the streets, bumping off walls, looking to hit up someone / anyone for some change….


(3) the ‘hood’ bounded by King, Dufferin, Flora and Robinson; great place to get murdered, beaten, robbed, propositioned, yelled at, shot at, etc. City Bread at King and Dufferin makes the best honey Bran, rye and pumpernickle bread on the entire planet. Don’t be in that area after dark.


(4) need to score some [insert most favourite drug]; go to Portage Place or the streets surrounding it. There you will find a good mix of drug dealers, degenerates, beggars, and those morons who wear a 2-sizes-too-small baseball cap sideways on their head (what is the purpose of that – they look so f’in stupid words escape the feeling that rages through me when I see one of those morons…..


(5) someone please continue, I’m going to lose it thinking about the morons who wear a 2-sizes-too-small baseball cap sideways on their head. I need to step outside and scream…….

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“I recently visited Winnipeg and left with one really troubling question, what do you citizens do for leisure?


I mean you have virtually no natural beauty. The lakes in Whiteshell are beautiful, but again, what about Winnipeg?

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“All the aforementioned cities have violence, true, but you still have to wake up in Winnipeg.

It’s an absolutely terrible city and I really feel sorry for the people who live there. What an absolute waste of a life.

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“If I was retarded…and raised on a farm.. Winnipeg would still be a hole

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“Eh Rita, shut the f*ck up! No one cares about your annual income or your “hard” life, we all have a load to carry! Not everyone has a job like yours so what’s your point? That somehow with a high income we can move to the suburbs and ignore the crime spilling out of the North and West end? Go take a walk in other neighborhoods on your next coffee break, preferably Selkirk & Redwood – if you don’t get your “high-end” ass kicked then maybe you’ve got a point. Until then just keep hiding in your false sense of security. And my points were valid – crime capital, poverty capital, car theft capital – ALL FACTS! Your comebacks are weak, are you an Asper by any chance? Living in a f*cken bubble are we?

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“There isn’t really a “high end” in Winnipeg. It’s a low-income city in a have-not province chock-full of social problems.

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“Kevin, there are those of us “living” here who are trying to escape. A few good restaurants, a pathetic zoo with one animal, and some good music do not cancel out the auto theft and the crappy weather that makes Winnipeg into the laughingstock of North America. The winter makes people bitter, reclusive and nasty. During the tiny window between the winter and the onslaught of cankerworms and mosquitoes as big as my elbow, people are actually pleasant. Then the poison-spraying starts.

There’s a reason that the refrain in that famous song is “I HATE WINNIPEG.” Not “I LOVE PARIS IN THE SPRINGTIME.” Not “I LEFT MY HEART IN SAN FRANCISCO.” Lolol.

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 “Prison life would be easier than Winnipeg life..

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“Not it isn’t Canada at all. I lived in Toronto, my friend from Winnipeg suggested to come and live here, just to try it out, because it is “cheap”. I had no choice due to financial situation I have been living in Peg for 5 years now. Guess what, I am leaving in 4 months. No way will I ever go back to this disgusting, stupid, backwards shithole city. This city is thriving on nepotism where if you know someone, you get the job, regardless of your skills or experience. Winnipeg is one big Mennonite family with rich pockets. It is a closed circle of society here, someone wrote about socials, it’s a big thing here. God knows why you want to wonder to someone else’s socials all the time. Also, it’s not even as cheap here anymore. It’s almost getting close to Toronto. My brother leaves in downtown Toronto and he pays 1200 in rent. Compare it to a 1100 bucks 1 bedroom in downtown Winnipeg, a nice apartment though. I came here 5 years ago, 2 bedroom was 600 bucks in a great area, now it is 1000!!!! What? For this price, I’d go back to Toronto, and don’t tell me it’s cheap here because it ain’t!


The only thing that is cheaper here is probably university, and even that is rising exponentially. The only thing winnipegers seem to brag about is that there is a lot of restaurants here. And ????? Guess what assholes, there are restaurants all over the world. Many of them. Why Winnipeg is so special? It isn’t! I am glad I will be leaving this stupid inbred city, the only thing good about this city was the fact that it taught me how to avoid potholes and crackheads. If you don’t know what I am talking about, try catching a bus after 5-6 pm in downtown. shitholepeg.

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“I work for manitoba tourism so don’t worry I will tell you the truth about how great this city and province are. Don’t worry no crime, poverty, corrupt officials, pot hole ridden streets, sewers that are rotting, 6 months of cold winters, filth all through the streets, mosquitos or a downtown that is cull of addicts but hey I will continue to tell you the truth on how great Manitoba is.

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“I enjoyed reading your white trash comment, made me laugh. Butr in all seriousess. Winnipeg i and always will be a hole… the wprst place I have ever been by far and I have been travelling around the worls fro the past 10 years.. If someone held a gun to my head and said I either had to stay in Winnipeg or die.. I wouldn’t be staying in Winnipeg.. Fuck me anyone that has to live there deserfves a medal.. Go to Austrllia and you will soon realize what a sad boring and pahetic life living in Winnipeg really is. Shame really coz there’s great people living there.

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“I was born and raised in this fair city,,,,I left it for 18 years and came back thinking it had changed,,,,oooooo was I ever wrong! The city itself can’t control the weather, the geography, or the humans who inhabit it, those are part of every city’s nature, neither good nor bad. What’s wrong with Winnipeg is the people who inhabit this location on the globe. Hatred and ill will is a common theme, and pleasure seems to only be derived from the diminishment of other human beings, cities, cultures and structures anywhere on earth, including this city’s. I got back here 20 months ago with great dreams of properly using investor’s $ to build and prosper a business, but within 30 days of arrival I’d learned how blind I’d been to the reality of life here, not one person has answered my question of why a human being should consider Winnipeg as a city of potential happy human life on earth, not one!….now I’m near bankrupt because I refuse to invest $1 of another person’s money in this city!!! I am very convinced that the second holocaust will begin here and the best investment would be in a Zyclon-C factory. If one isn’t white, related to a Winnipegger, blue-collar, and heterosexual,,,,you are a target for the aryan hatred that this city thrives on. Left wing and right wing politics work the same here,,,hatred thrives on hatred.


If plans work out, I should be out of here by December,,,,should it appear I would have to remain in Winnipeg for the next 20 years, I’d certainly think of suicide as a viable alternative. 


Again,,,I’ve only been asking Winnipeggers themselves about the city,,,,if you don’t live here or have never lived here, your comments are based on ignorance.

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“I’m afraid I have to disagree with you, Rita. I moved away more than a year ago and I have yet to say to myself I don’t like where I live. While the transition has been uphill at times, I don’t find myself walking down the street constantly reaffirming how much I hate the city I live in like I used to in Winnipeg. I knew once I left that place, that yes, I would be happier and I am. Why? Because I’m not constantly encountering lugans and animals, there is a great sense of community and pride where I live, it’s safe to walk down the streets after dark, there are parks with functioning water fountains, REAL bicycle lanes, REAL rapid transit in the form of a modern subway system that I won’t have to wait 20+ years to use, affordable food and housing, beautiful women, great architecture, fewer pickup trucks, people with class and manners, warmer winter temps, and the list goes on. Winnipeg is the opposite of all those things, so yes, moving somewhere else CAN make one happier.

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“Winnipeg sucks is the truth, but what does it mean to suck in Winnipeg. 

To suck here means: 

1) Monopolizing half the businesses between 5 different local crap to work for companies, so if you don’t like one place, working at another means still working for the same jackass… that sucks ! 


2) Prairie farmer architecture with a mix of extreme right wing fascist designs, definitely sucks and is most of Winnipeg. Ex the kid playground at the Forks is a perfect example of police state prairie farmer architecture, in a small space which is a bunch of tepees and crap there are 28 omni cams of big brothers, teaching your children that being watch ever step is normal. THAT SUCKS !!! 


3) The weather -40 c to +40 c and then there is the flooding rains, no spring, no fall, just damn clod to damn hot. That sucks ! 


4) Winnipeggers are so uneducated that they think higher learning was a movie only ! Trying to have an intelligent conversation is out… That sucks !!! 


5) Inbreeding… That sucks !!!  


6) Cheap people looking for a deal, what is this a Vietnam market… try to get paid what you are worth and boss becomes a haggling old Chinese women looking for the best price on rice. That sucks !!! 


7) Streets are falling apart, that sucks ! 


8) Rapid Transit is a monkey peddling a bus down the street, not rapid, that sucks !!! 

9) Nah-dere boy… anywayz !!! That sucks !!!! 

10) Entertainment is going up garbage hill drinking a beer and rolling down, weeeee… that sucks !!!! All-in-all Winnipeg sucks !

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 “City of inbreds

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 “Winnipeg is a dump get over it!

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“If Vancouver is the head and Halifax is the toe then that

makes Winnipeg the ass ho.
Rampant gang violence is the norm.
Home of the barricade creep.
City of tiny ass hoes

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“Vancouver isn’t the head of anything, more like a festering tumour. It’s a foreign city on Canadian soil. Most people are poor and young people have standards of living equivalent to those in Mexico and face a grim future of struggling to find a roommate to share a 1 bedroom apartment.

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“The Peg is an armpit

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“Winnipeg is what happens when cousins marry and have kids.

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“Lived here all my life. Yes indeed winnipeg should be called SHITHOLEPEG!

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“Take a good look ! This city is a dump ! What a joke !

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“Yes Winnipeg sucks! Winnipeg is a dump! Open your eyes!

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(Source: http://www.topix.com/forum/ca/winnipeg-mb/TSQAJTTGLVEHEMC6D)

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“I have lived all over canada and I have been here 6 months and I have never seen a bigger shithole than Winnipeg in my entire life. The only good thing about winnipeg is that it is cheap.

The winters are brutal, the summers are hot, muggy and invested with mosquitos. Most people who visit this city for the first time remark how ugly,dirty, and run down it is.

The vast majority of people who love it here grew up here and do not know any better. Simply put this city is a cess pool of shit, piss, and vomit. New people have fun- Ha Ha Ha

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“Winnipeg has some very notable qualities: Rudness, snoopiness, and boorishness. Cheers Winterpeg!

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“If you weren’t born here or haven’t gone to kindergarten with the other bullies and morons you won’t fit in here. No wonder there are so many gangs! They have a gang mentality. You can’t be individual here, you can in Calgary though. Racism is rampant, on the other hand, political correctness is rampant too! What a s*** hole!!!

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“I’m 17 years old and I have grown up in this shit hole called Winnipeg. I still live there though and I hate every goddamn minute of it!


The only people who like it here are people over 50, farmers or people with no lives who actually like doing the same thing every day! living here is like being stuck in the movie Ground hog day when the guy repeats the same day over and over again. Teenagers, young single people and couples will not like it here at all! there is nothing to do and it sucks.

Now I know Rachel or some other ass hole is going to post something like “You shouldn’t say that” but try living here for more then oh say, 6 months to a year then we will see what you think! do say a thing until you know what it’s like to live here!

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 “It is the sh*t hole of Canada. The only ones who don’t agree are redneck, slob, ignorant, rude, farting, belching, sneaky, mean, trecherous people who were born here and probably will stay in this hole all their miserable lives.

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“Speaking of people paid by taxpayers money — yes, this is a wicked city. What surprises me is that it took so long for Winnipeg’s finest to finally off some poor bugger with a tazer — finally happened yesterday. Cops are creeps in Winterpeg, beating poor youth, scruffy people, and ignoring real dirt bags — drug dealers. What heros. I wonder if cops get free coffee from merchants in Osborne village for their cowardly and brutal action!

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“Why are the people in Winnipeg so ignorant and rude? It seems like the pastime here is staring and gawking at others. It reminds me of that movie,’Night of the Living Dead’..creepy man! When people are so unfriendly they don’t talk to strangers but yet stare and gawk..especially I notice they stare at immigrants and mentally challenged persons or anyone even a little different. I feel sorry for people who have to face that crap from these morons in Winterpig. How unclutured and offensive, yet know one thinks anything of it… They should all take a Dale Carnegie course to learn to act like human beings with respect and manners. Did you notice the spit all over the bus shelter windows? I just hope the *ssholes here don’t move to my hometown of Calgary! Thank God I am only here temporarily!

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“i’m not joking winnipeg is like that, they call it ‘people watching’ I call it “if I had a gun, we’d have a little run and fun. I knew i wasn’t imagining that bull shit, we should be cow-town on account of all the stinking bull shit see

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“I ended up in winnipeg for university, and winnipegers made me hate their town. If you are not a boy from the neighborghood, good luck! The last time any winnpeger has probably made a new friend (and I mean FRIEND) has been perhaps high school. Outsiders who were not born and bred in winnipeg will never make their way into a circle of winnipegers. I work with a bunch of supposedly professioanl winnipegers: they have zero social skills in attracting an outsider and making them feel at home (in thier new home in winnipeg). If you are more successful than a winnipeger in a similar job, they will hate you for that. And they have no shame in showing thier jelousy. Yet, they think we non-Manitobans are too dull to get it! I tried so hard for 2-3 years to make myself fit in amongst my winnipeger coworkers, and alas any luck. I have therefore given up on them. I am counting down the days of my calender, looking forward to the day that I will be leaving winnipeg for ever. And to cherrish themselves, they claim people like me leave winnipeg because of their cold weather. I leave winnipeg because of its cold, self-centered, jelous people. I will never return and will never look behind. The “friendly Manitoba” on their licence plates is a joke!!. Or maybe they mean they are freindly to their manitoban palls!


In my profession I have worked with many people across the country: my winnipeger colleagues are amongst the least knowledgeable ones, and yet they have not insight to it. They think they are the best in the country. Therefore, never even try to improve their pathetic status. For the same reason,, they hate successful non-Manitobans who may stirr some competition in their GREAT HOME TOWN. Maybe they have poor social manners deliberately to repel their better colleagues. 


You want to learn about winnipegers, just observe thier driving attitude: very rude and inconsiderate of anybody else on the road. If you need to change a lane, you need to wait until cows come back home, because no other driver will ever have the courtesy. I can no longer count how many winnipegr drivers have waved at me their middle finger when I was driving cautiosly on their icy winter roads to avoid any accident. This has never happened to me in any other town in Canada for a driver to show me his/her middle finger!(so much for thier culture).

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(Source: http://www.topix.com/forum/ca/winnipeg-mb/T0IMADEI7CPP6LHQI)

See: Winnipeg Rants (part two)

Edmonton: Rants

I will delve into a post about the shit hole that is Edmonton another day. It’s hockey players most hated city and top five for crime. Some guy even made a blog about it. For today, enjoy the rants:


“Edmonton is a shity place to live. Should be ranked way lower

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“Edmonton is literally a cesspool. I’ve lived in a few places and travelled to many, and Edmonton is by far the worst city I’ve ever spent time in. I’m happy for the people who enjoy it here but I am personally counting down until I get to leave this place and move back to the west coast! Safety index, pollution, etc. aside….those things are all lovely but they don’t give you an idea of what living in Edmonton is actually like. This city is the most vile, redneck place you can imagine. Dirty pickup trucks, people wearing baseball hats and sunglasses inside to fancy restaurants, the sun never shines, the roads are falling apart, the entire city is depressing. It’s like something out of a apocalyptic movie. Even Calgary only three hours away is far better than this place. The entire city is built off oil rigs, and you can tell. Horrible, horrible place. I was born here and can’t wait to leave.

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“Edmonton is dirty and polluted. You go outside into the park with your kids at the east and you smell the refineries. Since Canada opens the door for everybody, communication is also a huge cluster fuck, starting from ordering a bagel to tech-support. The government itself is filled with crooks and retards, and you will take notice on that when the oil price collapses, cause savings are made on the wrong ends (schools, health care), property taxes are rising and so far I have not seen any relieve from all this. House prices are very high and renting property is no fun either. No oil no future for Alberta. In regards to the people, you have your d-bags, but also very kind people. The only thing that is annoying is the massive amount of different cultures here. I am getting out the door and have a feeling of living in Manila, cause of those fucking Pilipinos. Everybody who is able to hammer a fucking nail straight into the wall is able to immigrate here, no English required. I get pissed off when I have to use hands and feet to fucking communicate. I took English course to improve my communication skills, that shit should be mandatory. I need to get the fuck outta here.

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“Edmonton sucks worst place ever,i mean instead on focusing on the important things like health care childcare and so on,we build a arena just to make more money for people who already have more then enough,but at least we pay for a government who is full of crocks and dickheads,who get payd 100.000 a year for trying to find ways to make our lives a citizens even harder.Edmonton should be ashamed

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“I live in Edmonton, most expensive place for housing, and finding a place is extremely hard. I have a 500 sq ft apartment for 1000.00 per month (nothing included) 

Food prices can jump as often as the gas prices. Since a lot of the gas comes from here- you would think we would have cheaper gas, not true, actually cheaper toward the east usually and even in Calgary. from 90 cents per litre to 114.00 per litre over night, and this happens weekly. Pot Holes and Non Stop Road Construction- and someone said it before, they are not prepared for population growth. Most expensive place I have even live.

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“Edmonton while once being clean affordable and safe is no longer that city. Taxes go up every year to pay for arenas, art galleries, a transit vision that no one will use and will cripple commuting times, a library entity that costs over 50 million a year to run plus its new over the top branches being buit and $500,000 makerspace projects (a fancy cyber cafe/kinko’s) ,city politicians that have no experience and who do not listen to the people, a 1% art levy for all projects + the flag.waving arts council massive salaries that have given taxpayers silver rabbit turds on the side of.the road and $50,000 wall painting of bouncing balls by some overseas artist. ( a ten year old could.have done better)at fitness centers that are black holes for our tax dollars, but not for surrounding communties which use.them.


There are people here living pay check to pay check but council puts art galleries, transit, arenas and their own salaries first.

If you think Edmonton is such a great place you may want to read a bit more and.travel.Our river valley is.useless unless you like to eat nuts and defecate in the.bush.

You will also find that a large percentage of.city poiticians do not stay here after retiring and.if.they do they are only part timers. Not a great endorsement for.such a.great place…..

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 “Alex C. You may not be talking out of your arse but what is coming out of your mouth or from.your fingers is very close to the same product that would if you were. 

To comment or judge someone elses life, job or actual experiences without “being there in general” would actually make you an awesome candidate to run for Edmontons city council. They are also totally out of touch with what this city and the citizens require to enjoy life.

You may also want to reread my previous post about our mayors etc that run away to warm.places while the rest of us stay and pay for all their legacy projects.

Maybe I should check to see if “Alex C” was previously employed by the City of Edmonton and you now are talking from your soapbox in good old Uruguay.

You have also shown your ignorance(another quality for city council) by using the US of A as a point about living in Edmonton.

I have actually “in general” lived in the US and it is nothing like here. The only places I found close were in the midwest.

Alex you may require some TP to wipe a little something off your lip.

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“I have been living here since 1968…The last 12 years, since Mayor Smith left, have been an utter disaster. Mayor Mandel (spendal), gave away our city to developers, we lost the airport for a pie in the sky dream that will never work, our museum for a new legacy project (have a guess what will happen to the land where the old museum sits), and many other things that made our city great! Mayor Iveson has continued the tradition of giving away our land & city to the developers, but added a twist now we have also given the roads to bike lanes, and transit trains that do not work . Same thing as our previous PC government giving away our resources to big oil…Privatizing our provincial parks. Once my last child leaves home ETA 5-6 years, I am out and never returning. I hate how the city has developed and how little is done to help the ordinary citizens who pay the taxes for their schemes and legacy projects. I miss the old Edmonton, the one we loved and grew up with, it is now a city for developers and big business only! Cannot wait to leave!

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“I agree. When a mayors (Iverson the I want to be PM) acceptance speech identifies that he wants to help special interest groups I knew right away that common hardworking Edmontonians were in for a huge withdraw of funds from their wallets. 


With property taxes going up 5% every year it directly makes utilities, insurance, consumer goods etc increase as well.City departments role should be to help decrease costs and reduce loss of taxpayers hard earned money.


What I have seen wasted.

:City road cleaning truck being followed around by another city truck with the driver and his passenger laughing and doing the macerana.

: 8 City police and bylaw officers and their cars at speed traps while you cant even get a officer to your house to fingerprint after a breakin.


:City police car out in Devon dropping of his kid for horse riding lessons.


:Edmonton Public Library spending 30 million on salaries and still creating director of directors jobs (exucutive directors) when libraries should be shrinking their staff. Yes EPL is one of the most expensive libraries to run in Canada.


: Edmontons property taxes are higher than Calagaries and Vancouvers.


:Our garbage and recycle costs $43 a month and increases about $5 a month p/year, Calgarys is $14. Yes people that should be added to your property tax so it is transparent for the cost of living here.


:50 miilion more (150 total) for the fancy designed one way bridge by the kinsmen. Who the hell puts in a one way bridge when everyone knows that we needed another way to cross the
river when the high level is blocked or under repair.

: A useless outdoor escalator so the poor lazy city workers can get to the river valley for a nice walk during their 1 hour plus lunches.


:A $600 million rink that no normal taxpayer will ever be able to afford to see the inside of.

:Fitness facilities that are poorly run and are already huge money pits like the libraries.

This town is dying. It only survives because of oil and the oil will never be what it was. Green technology is taking over and I intend to be out of this city as soon as I can sell my house.

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“You know how the media is always telling us how great and vibrant Edmonton is? Well they really wouldn’t need to do all this promoting if Edmonton truly was a great city… think about it. 

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“It’s all the PC goverment’s fault, they ruined this province.

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(source)

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“Biggest shithole in Canada

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“This city is a shithole

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Edmonton’s public transit is terrible . Awful . It is a debacle and a disgrace . Many people in Edmonton live in suburban type housing . Regular Mass Transit directly to these areas is very rare . In this one respect Calgary beats Edmonton . For all of Calgary’s negatives it has this one public amenity over Edmonton . All Edmontonians deserve a modern transit system that covers the entire city . IF YOU ARE THINKING OF MOVING TO EDMONTON YOU SHOULD OWN A CAR IF YOU WANT A CAREER / JOB THAT PAYS A LIVING WAGE ($25.00-$30.00 PLUS AN HOUR) . Many guys I grew up with went into the trades . Every single one of them owns a car and drives . In fact I am the only person older than 25 years old that I know ( that isn’t on Welfare or A.I.S.H. [ I , MYSELF , AM ON A.I.S.H. AND ONLY ONE PERSON I’VE EVER MET ON A.I.S.H. HAD A DRIVER’S LICENSE ] ) that doesn’t own their own car and drive . You have to to hold down a decent job .

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“not 40 years… 15. Edmonton is 15 years behind in everything.Especially health care. They’ll give a 2yo a punch biopsy for a runny nose.

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“Get the fuck out of Edmonton. Totally mismanaged bullshit. Edmonton raping the economy and it’s residence.

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“Why are there so many sick children and sick adults in and around Edmonton? – Every time I look at a newspaper or watch the news there is another sick kid we are supposed to feel sorry for… WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE SO SICK?!??!?!?!??!??!?


Why are there so many suicides, murders, stand-offs, sexual assaults, apartment fires for such a small city? 800 000 people is small. The amount of crime in and around Edmonton is staggering..

I hate living here so much.

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“Psychologist referral in edmonton = some random idiot calls you and tells you to go to a walk in clinic.

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“Sad cause we need them to help us cope with living here

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“I have lived in 12 States, and 3 Provinces- By far the most expensive place I have ever lived. Plus the housing is so bad, I have a 450 square foot Apartment, for 1000 per month. Had to wait 1 months to get into it, because there just isn’t housing available. Plus parking costs money, everywhere. The Gross Provincial Funding must come from Parking- average cost at the University is 1.25 cents per 15 minutes- $5.00 per hour. On the streets it’s closer to 3 or 4 dollars per hour. Even in a home where you have to park on the street, you have to buy parking permit to park at your own home, or you will be ticketed. Gas Price fluctuate from 91 cent per litre to 1.14 per litre over night, with little warning. The taxes on Vehicles from other Provinces or the US are so high, in some cases it’s better to buy a nice used car. The Pot holes are big enough to fall into, while in your car, the troglodytes live down there, I can only assume. The average night out for 2 people, at a dive bar, a movie and maybe a cheap dinner- aka nothing fancy, will cost between 200 – 250 dollars.


The cheese here is awful. If you like cheese, don’t live here. It’s crap.

The Provincial “Sin” tax on Alcohol, Tobacco, and Gas, yes, on Gas, because that’s an addition, not something you have to have to get to work, get’s jacked up at the drop of a hat. In the first 6 months I live here, it was raised 4 times.

Reconsider Moving here. The comment on SPorts teams, they had a Lacrosse Team that won the NLL CHampionship 2015- two weeks afterward relocated to Regina because the Owner of Rexall/New Oiler’s Arena refused to have them in the new facility. A lot of politics here to top off the expensive cost of living/low pay rates. Toronto, Vancouver, Even White Horse, Yukon is better compared to this.

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“Description of average male in Edmonton:

1) Overweight
2) Drives a truck
3) High school education or less
4) Wears a ball cap
5) Listen to country music
6) No sense of style
7) Uses the words “seen” and “saw” interchangeably
8) Ignorant and loud
9) Smokes

Description of average female in Edmonton:

All of the above expect # 4
In addition:
1) Most likely has two or more children by the age of 24
2) Unmarried

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“And they can’t drive for shit. I thought driving in Toronto was bad but Albertan drivers amaze me everyday with stupidity. And some Saskatchewan drivers too. They might be worse.

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“preach on brother.

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“I’ll add “rampant homophobia” and “douchebag idoltry”.

Lived there for 4 years. Found that if your a guy and your style sense means you dress respectfully, then complete strangers will either give you the ” fuck you” shit eating “Bro, check out that faggot” smile, or drive past you and call you a faggot. Translation: If you aren’t in a pair of jeans, T-shirt and wearing a baseball cap, then their inner homophone will rise to the surface.

Well I guess there is the reasoning of “Protest strong enough and people won’t suspect you’re gay”.

So I suppose Edmonton’s got the highest population of gays in Canada.
Maybe the ” get a trade, get laid, get paid”, “yeah I’m working on my second divorce”, ” I’m better than you because I got me a REAL job” Edmontonians are just angry because there aren’t enough gay bars in the city.

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 “Great post, and very true!

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“The number of self-entitled ignorant red necks living here is ridiculous! Alberta is the Texas of the US. Wasteful and ignorant province. If you are from a large city and used to people having intellect and class this province is one to avoid.

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“have lived in edmonton for about 26 years and everything here is true, the urban sprawl is ridiculous, the new high density style homes are hideous, the city looks like a giant work camp with its cookie cutter homes. Go to the Hamptons or any of the newer subdivisions and its like a crappy US town from the 50s with model A or B homes all along the street. The night life is terrible, Im lucky I have a good group of friends that house parties are just a better way to have fun than a bad nightclub with overpriced smirnoff. We would take weekend trips to vegas and end up spending less than if we balled out as hard in Edmonton. They know people want to leave and thats why they also tax the living hell out of flights leaving the country. Its a joke…


The people are good though, yes there are rednecks, yes there are rig pigs but thats due to the job market. It wasnt even like this 10 years ago but Edmontonians are friendly people for the most part and most of the racists keep to themselves. But for how expensive it is to live in Edmonton if you are an average Canadian, which I am, means basics like groceries are expensive. I traveled to Hawaii and for a place that has to import everything, the prices there were cheaper than in Edmonton. I’ve never seriously considered moving away but I’m now looking at options to live in a smaller city where property taxes aren’t going toward wasteful spending like an arena that will benefit a billionaire. People who think sports stadiums actually help the economy are deluded after all the economic studies done throughout north america that prove the contrary. Don’t forget the horrendous public transport and the fact that the LRT intersects some really busy roads that ends up causing huge traffic jams every day. The lack of planning is what really hurts the city and all these spur of the moment decisions are making Edmonton worse. 


A big issue resides in the fact that a lot of Albertans have never even left the province, let alone the country to actually experience what other cities have to offer. They think the city is amazing because they have nothing to compare it to. It’s just going to be a forever mediocre city filled with a lot of idealistic people.

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“Can’t agree with you more. The number of ignorant people living in this city is absurd. I’ve spent most of my living in Toronto and Ottawa and wow was this city a shocker. A year in and I’m ready to go! It’s a different world out here, and one I hope to get away from very soon. I have never encountered so many teen/early 20 something mothers. If you’re from a small town this is most certainly, “Simpleville,” and you’ll like it just fine. Otherwise stay far….far away!

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“Moved here 5 years ago with wife and son from Ontario. god I miss it and appreciate it so much after being here this long. Edmonton is meh. not a horrible place but after a year of living here I was done. 4 years later and I feel like i’m going to lose my mind.

Don’t very much like a lot of the people who are from here either. Most of the people I like aren’t even from here. I saw a bumper sticker the other day that was shaped like the province of Alberta and it said “Fuck off. We’re full already”. In a nut shell that describes Albertans, from my experience working and living with them. 

I was told before coming it was more cultured than Calgary. Maybe but I’d still pick Calgary over this place any day. Edmontonians over hype this place with claiming festival city and all that shit. True festivals happen, but there’s still more and better festivals in other cities in Canada. Edmonton has very little going for it. 


As someone’s already said here, it will change you for the worst. I’ve become somewhat more of a bitter person after 5 years here. I’ve tried to find the positive but the few good things it has going isn’t enough. i was hoping it would grow on me after 5 years. It hasn’t. Can’t wait to get out of here next spring. 

Anyone thinking of moving here permanently. You’ll regret it. Plus apparently they’re full already.

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 “I lived in Edmonton from 2009-2011, and during that time tried to love it and carve out a happy life there. I was far from happy, though. Even though quality-of-life issues like transit (I lived car-free) obviously affected my happiness, I realized that my greatest unhappiness came from being an “outsider” in a city that does not embrace “outsiders”. Now, the term “outsider” is not exactly the most appropriate as it connotes being born in a place versus not born in a place. The inside/outside culture of Edmonton is far more detrimental; there is an “inside” track for those who think the same, act the same, and do not push outside that box. Everyone not willing to shut up and do the same is an “outsider”.


I live now in a city that has its own problems–what city doesn’t?–but the biggest difference is that here I can be respected for my unique contributions, and the goal is to do my part in my way to continue to make my community a healthy and happy place to live.


Because Edmonton tends toward insulation because it is fairly remote, the hurdle it must jump over completely is this mentality. This type of mentality stifles the kinds of input and ideas that ultimately give a city well-rounded character, depth, and cohesive planning and development. And, unfortunately, this kind of mentality provides the opportunity for corruption and abuse of power; corruption and power trips are never erased completely, but out of all the places I have lived, corruption was by far the worst in Edmonton. (My home city list includes Chicago–notorious for its long history of corruption!–and Edmonton was far worse!) 

There were things I liked about Edmonton, and I encountered really kind people who were frightened to take any step that might make them an “outsider” as well as some truly terrible, awful souls who had been granted power they abused, and in so doing created a very toxic environment.

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“I live in sherwood park just outside edmonton. My family moved here from toronto and i’m in grade 10 age 16 and i’m old enough to see edmonton for what it is. Edmonton is in my opinion the most useless run down redneck hockey loving racist pickup truck loving redneck racist white trash overly polluted poorly made extremely boring lackluster hick town full of foul mouth over patriotic redneck white trash pile of gorilla shit to grace gods green earth.

Now I know that sounded childish but thats as true as ot gets.

1 is the people don’t have any good qualities. There a bunch of retarded rednecks who think they are better then the rest of the world. There extremely racist too. I am italian which is Mediterranean so I am kinda darker and I get no respect because of that. Its a joke here. Who the fuck cares about your color? The day before I entered a 7-11 store wearing a scarf colored after the italian flag because of world cup and some white trash redneck fucker gave me the dirtiest look ever. He was about my age and because im cheering for my team that is bad. And then theres the extreme hicks. 


They drive the biggest most pathetic over sized piece of shits on the road. Most rednecks are poor in america but here in edmonton they got lots of $$$$$$ and im not lieing. These people spend anywhere between $80000 to $120000 on their hill billie mobiles. Who would pay that much to modify a vehicle thats made to carry around manure? And those hanging testicles aint that cool either. Usually these trucks also have desiel engines with all emission controls off and straight pipes so they sound like vacuum cleaners and fire out black smoke which is annoying when your walking down the sidewalk and a random truck comes along and fires a shit ton of smoke into your face. Another annoying thing is people who drive by in there vehicles and yell something rude to you. 


Walking around sherwood just isn’t worth it. Biking is even worse. You better have a $1000 bike or prepare for the worst bashing possible. In sherwood park you must ride with caution if you have a budget bike. So the only other way to get around is your car but thats bad too. If you have a small car or a european car your branded as a “queer”. Everyone has a pickup and its dreadful seeing them everywhere. No diversity in cars but people are even less diverse. White trash and thats it. Worst is they are as generic as people get. They all have the same lame ass hair cut. Same lame ass baseball hats. They all wear the same clothes and worst of all though I dont mean to be mean but they all look and act like inbreds. Its either there inbreds or just uneducated and deformed by the refinery. Guys are pretty bad but girls are not much better. Though they are pretty they act all snobby about it. They think there the best. Just like guys here girls are racist too. If your not white then your nothing and i’m not white. Back to girls is there rude and arrogant and only like people who look like these “inbreds”. They think there above the rest of this world and its just not true there actually the lowest form of female. People of both genders annoy the crap out of me just as much as their pickups and country music dose. I dont mean to be rude if I did but im just telling the truth. 


Yesterday I was hanging out with one of my friends and what was there to do? NOTHING!!! No places to go and no activities to do. Went to tim hortons and then my house and thats it. And then theres sports. In edmonton and surrounding areas people seem to like hockey. Its even worse that hockey players say they always got girls on there dicks. Then they go to say if play or like any other sport your a “fag”. And if you dislike hockey then your treated like a dog. Its stupid but its true. Then theres “hockey moms” who think putting their stupidly named big headed son in hickey makes them good people. You boy suffers enough living with you dont force them into hockey. And they also take their husbands pay while he works down in the oil sands and spends it on stupid shit. Its like the even worse redneck version of the already shitty suburban living. 


Then theres housing. Its a joke. All you get are a bunch of 2000 sq ft $700000 generic tract mansions. Every 5th house looks exactly the same. Once I took a walk down the road and found my exact house 5 houses down the street. The only form of character are the old houses which are smaller but nicer. Now not all of edmonton is bad. Some parts have nicer more diverse people, Less of. A hockey following and better vehicles and housing. You got to travel a bit but once you find one of the good parts of edmonton find out where you are and live there. My review of edmonton gives it a 0/10 but some of those good areas dont feel like edmonton but more like calgary get a 7-8 out of 10.

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“I am a former Maritimer who currently lives in Calgary. I recently went on a road trip with my fiance to Edmonton, and I have to say – it’s absolutely horrid, and I couldn’t get out of there fast enough.


For a provincial capitol with a reputation for the arts, more liberal ridings than Calgary and a great university (well, compared to U of C anyway) I was expecting a cosmopolitan city with historical character buildings. 


Nope. The first thing I saw was a, outlandish white monster truck heading into Edmonton at breakneck speeds with a Jesus fish stuck to the back. When we stopped for coffee, there was a minivan painted up with angels and large text proclaiming, “JESUS IS COMING BACK!!! ARE YOU READY?!” Apparently Edmonton is ready, as I have never seen so many Jesus-fish in my life – and I live in Calgary. I went there with an open mind, because I’d heard that Edmonton had a better arts scene than Calgary – but it was the most awful city I’ve ever set foot in (and I’m a former flight attendant, so I’ve travelled a lot). 


The entire vibe of Edmonton is just wrong. It’s like it’s stuck in the 80s. I actually saw a woman with a mullet. I thought Calgary was bad for box stores – Edmonton has the box store honed to a fine art. Who needs landscaping when you can sport a giant parking lot?

If I could move anywhere, I’d move to Vancouver or Victoria – they are by far the prettiest cities in Canada with a great social/arts scene. I am not a big fan of Toronto – I found it to be horribly unfriendly and somewhat snobbish, but admittedly I was only there for a week and was attending a classical guitar conference with my fiance (my fiance is the guitar player – I was bored out of my mind, but the classical guitar crowd here in Calgary are just as obnoxious). Plus my experience on the subway was a little terrifying (some dude was arguing with his own reflection, like Gollum from Lord of the Rings. LOL!). 

Though I never really warmed up to Toronto (I’m sure I would given enough time to pursue things I’m interested in – the service in restaurants was always outstanding and ), I’d live there in a heartbeat over Edmonton. It took me years to learn to like Calgary (only after the recent flood and seeing how people pulled together to help one another have I really gotten to love it) and become accustomed to the rampant conservatism here (being a liberal-minded, pro-science, free-thinking atheist vegetarian environmentalist in Alberta is a dangerous thing to be unless you’re smart enough to hide it. LOL!). I used to think Calgary was the worst city in Canada until I visited Edmonton. The people were unfriendly (even when we didn’t tell them we lived in Calgary! LOL!), the drivers were obnoxious and it oozes conservatism and red-neckery. My fiance asked me if I wanted to see some landmark downtown, and I said, “Nope! I’ve seen enough of this fucking place! Get me the HELL out of here!” 


If I could live anywhere in Canada, I would choose Vancouver or Victoria (earthquakes be damned!) for their great arts scene, weather and natural beauty, but you couldn’t pay me enough to live in Edmonton. That city oozes obnoxiousness, new money and conservatism, and though I have wonderful friends that live there, I just can’t take the vibe of that city. Calgary might be a workaholic’s wet dream, and Calgary might be left wanting in terms of arts and culture, but I’d rather live here than in Edmonton, because at least Calgary is trying to move forward (and we have the best mayor in Canada in my opinion). It’s a shame, I expected Edmonton to be a more liberal and artsy city – instead, its landscape is blighted by box stores, jacked-up trucks and a downtown core that looks like it’s seen its peak in 1986. No thanks.

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“I agree with everything you said, Ben – except I think you held back a bit. LMAO!

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 “Edmonton: The city of bullshit slogans made up to make you feel like a winner.

I lived there from 06 – 10. Hated living there. The funniest thing about these guys who defend the negative points about the city with as much insult and sarcasm as they can, is that they just say the same old tired things, over and over again; parrotting someone else. “F you, lotsa people moving here” “F you, if you don’t like it, why’d you move here?” “F you, our trucks are driven by real men, F your city, faggot”. 

The good points though, the cost of living was great while I was there. The employment was good and the wages were great.

The bad points though, were all that you mention but the biggest one for me, was the open prejudice I found from people there. I took a security gig and I couldn’t believe just how much people actually think that rumors about a job a person does, are true and worse, how it somehow gives them permission to attack a peron’s character by calling that person names, yell at them from accross the street and (believe it or not) trying to run them off the road. I had gotten so many “fuck you” smiles from people (you know when people you don’t know give you a shit eating grin? That’s the fuck you smile) while I was living there. What, just for doing a job to put food on my table? I was even at Mucho Burrito at 100 ave and 109 st (the Save on Foods plaza) and the guy serving the food behind the counter, starts trash talking the security guard who was there, IN the store, talking to someone, with the customer. 


If I was a Star Wars Jedi master, I’d use the force to pick the Rexall center up and then roll it right down Whyte Avenue on a busy Friday night, when all the “Get a trade get laid get paid” douchebags are at the bars. That would solve 90 percent of that city’s problems. 

It’s going to take the city more than riding on the coat tails of hockey, having a transit system that shuts down before midnight, a badass radio station with a stupid slogan like “The station with NO RULES” when they have to follow CRTC regulations and labour laws (what a stupid slogan), the highest murder rate per capita, shitty air quality from the oil sands, and people coming up with poor arguments for defending their city than that, in order to be taken seriously as a city at all.

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“Back in Australia now for 2 years and thankfully Edmonton is becoming a distant memory. Its too bad that we will have to return to visit friends and family. Thats not the bad part, its just having to go back to a place that i hate. There was one good thing about living Edmonton for 3 years and that was realising what i had back in Australia was better and that my life didn’t have to be surrounded by heavy industry and shopping malls. I understand that for whatever reason some people love Edmonton, but what i didn’t understand was those people who hate Edmonton, but still choose to live there. There is a lot of them. Its those are the people who need to think outside the box and try something different. It will leave more room for those who actually want to be there. I could never live in a place all my life that i didn’t like. Thats like going to a job that you hate, everyday for the rest of your life. Now that would suck.

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“I have lived in Edmonton way too long. I absolutely hate it here and I am currently trying to get the hell out. My reasons?


1. Cops don’t work anymore they let photo radar do the work. You know that obnoxious truck culture you mentioned? Well you should see it now. No demerits for anything just monthly “bills” in the mail that they pay for speeding and it shows. No one does the speed limit anymore and everyone rides your bumper (I have had people actually try to force me off the road). The city police go to the press once a year and say “We don’t know why folks are speeding but we’re gonna crack down on the bad ones”…and then things stay the same. 

I had some friends here for two weeks from another country and they asked me where the police were. All they saw was dangerous drivers and no cops at all. Not one….ever. There were people going down my street one night with bats and axes smashing vehicles. I called 911 and they arrived….three hours later. They let me know there was no one out there and I should not waste their time. 

2. They really did leave the word “planning” out of planning and development. Nothing makes any sense. They build a ring road but use the wrong type of material so they have to tear it up and re-pave. I know someone who walked away from the project because of the constant mistakes. Exits being built backwards so they need to be torn down and re-built (to the tune of a cool million) or they are attached to other roads but not the roads that needed the access. And lets not forget the roads. They cut 2/3 of their road budget for two years and let the roads fall apart. Now there are potholes all over the city that will destroy your vehicle. It’s like a non stop obstacle course. They are filling them with cheap fill, but they are all re-opening again. 


3. Dumb redneck mentality. I’ve seen intelligent people move here and just start acting beer guzzling stupid. I don’t know if it’s something in the water but it seems to be spreading. This probably leads to the truck and balls scenario you mentioned. It hurts my brain being here.

4. Hey lets put our city in debt and ignore the infrastructure so that we can build an arena for hawkee…and lets give all the profits from the area to the oilers owner…and the parking…and not allow other places to hold events to compete. Brilliant….must be the water. 

5. Lack of identity. I spent a few weeks in Calgary this year. Much better than Edmonton and they seem to know where they are going and how they plan to get there. It’s not oil and gas crazy and it really seems to be coming into it’s own. Did I mention I saw police working when I was down there? And it’s clean… 


6. Dirty. Edmonton is a damn dirty disgusting city. It’s river stinks (take a ride on the glorious river boat to get a good up close whiff), the roads are always filthy. It’s buildings are brown….I’m sure they weren’t always that way. Everything that opens here glorious and new is eventually run down an fugly with filth. 


7. Angry people. Everyone here is pissed off…all the time. I came back from the northern states where everyone was warm and friendly and the first thing I witnessed getting back into Alberta was a guy cutting off another guy at a gas pump, getting out of his MANTRUCK and yelling at the old man “you took my goddamn pump”. Welcome home to Alberta were everyone makes a lot of money, is over-entitled and is pissed off. I find myself getting angry being here. Time to move on.”

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“Hey Robby, I agree with # 7 of your comment. Everyone does look angry here. I`ve seen better smiles from the cracks of peoples asses. 

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“how can you feel special about something anyone in the world can access? You dont even have to move to Alberta to get a job, companies just fly you out there because no one in their right mind wants to live around so many raging morons.


Ft, Mac full of non Albertans because they can actually work and not whine about it.

It must just drive you NUTS the immigrants come and “steal your jobs” right? lol

Just because resource extraction companies haven’t set up shop ALL ACROSS Canada doesn’t mean their isn’t extractable resources all over the place. Your province just happens to be be guinea pig number one. Then its off to Saskatchewan.

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 “There is no “burbs” really…. The entire civic layout of the city is a total nightmare. Be prepared to put THOUSANDS of kilometers on your vehicles. Also be prepared to buy a $400 000 vinyl sided nightmare of a house.


If you like being inside basically all year round, and dont mind paying $600 000 for a house (after you add in mortgage interest, not to mention property tax :)) for a plain, over-sized, over priced house with no backyard or privacy, in a community of people who are xenophobic, egomaniacs who place every aspect of their own self-worth on how much they can accumulate within their lifetimes, then you will be in heaven. 


Also if you don’t mind living in a 1 000 000 000 man work camp(thats what edmonton basically is), with terrible weather all year round, none of the communities being walkable, no parks except the river valley. You will notice massive urban sprawl with a rapid transit system that goes to low traffic/no usefull areas of the city. 

If someone asked me to describe the most nightmarish city I could come up with, it would basically be a carbon copy of edmonton.

If your a redneck and love guns, driving for MILES (cause driving on pot-hole riddled roads, with angry, sociopathic drivers is FUN for some weirdos), LOVE spending all year round INSIDE, want to spend FAR MORE MONEY on things than you would in NORMAL parts of the world, and pretend your getting what your paying for, and generally like to live in a dream-like, delusional state, then its probably and OK place to live for you.

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“O YA, not to mention no culture, the “festivals” are watered down versions of REAL festivals elsewhere. They only throw SO MANY festivals at you in edmononton, just for the sake of being able to say “we have more than anyone”, it just plays into the perpetual inferiority complex the majority of the people embrace..


ALSO you have the morons that WORK in edmonton, but live in places surrounding edmonton (because edmonton sucks according to even the locals) like fort saskatchewan, spruce grove, st albert, sherwood park, leduc, nisku, which creates NIGHTMARISH COMMUTES.. They dont even treat these roads like the highways they should be treated as.. so much traffic, little to no dual lanes and NO LIGHTS AT NIGHT… 

I really cant believe a place like edmonton exists in the civilized world… it just seems so tremendously backwards, in ever sense of the word.. as do the peoples thought and behavior patterns..

not to mention the “no zero policy” encouraged in schools, so you have generation after generation of idiots with attitudes running around…

its like living in a out-patient insane asylum..

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“Edmonton 

Horrible winters
Terrible sprawl
Boring
Drunken idiots everywhere
Looks like the moon in winter
Feels like Hamilton
In the middle of nowhere
No identity
No culture
No thanks!!!!

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 “this morning, not having been awake for 20 mins, nor outside for more than 10 mins. i hope in my car and pull out down the alley.. i have this idiot from deadmonton on her bike riding on the sidewalk no less, stop on her bike in front of my car and give me a dirty look and swore at me for my bumper being slightly in the sidewalk as i was awaiting to pull out in traffic..


everyday is like this.. just more idiots who get in your face.. im so sick of the fucking morons here..people just dont even know how to “be” they are so inept.. 

so basically i have an idiot riding her bike on the sidewalk who feels so self important she needs to stop and point out to me that my bumper is in the sidewalk. any normal person could mitigate this by either walking behind the vehicle or by slightly offsetting their path…

deadmontonians = seldom right but never in doubt..

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 “Having lived in Edmonton for 5 years and recently escaped to the West Coast, I totally agree with most everything you say. One error to correct: The Ranch went out of business a year or so ago. It was replaced by a restaurant “the beer market” I think it is called. I only know this because we lived in Old Strathcona. That would be my other response. If you are liberal and live in Edmonton, Old Strathcona is the place to go and is a great place to live – the cultural center of the city.

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“Came to Edmonton about a year ago. Although I found some nice things here and it is much better in the summer, I agree with 95% of the negative points that were mentioned here.

Nice to read that others had a similar impression of the city. Feels good to know that you are not the only one.

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“Edmonton was not named the city of champions because of hockey but because of black friday and what people went throughthat horrible day do your research moron…

I agree with the bad city planning point it is pretty bad..not much to do in Ed and West Ed does get boring after going there a hundred times over since its the only thing to do next to bar hopping.

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“I’m originally from Toronto (I lived there almost 30 years). I then lived in Windsor, Ontario (and worked in Detroit) four years before moving to Edmonton. I tried hard to enjoy Edmonton, however during my four years there the only thing that really struck me as special was the Fort. Edmonton is not a city; it’s a big town. It possesses the drawbacks of a large city (sprawl, traffic, crime) with very few of the benefits (culture, entertainment). Likewise it lacks the charm of a small town, but it’s not short on boredom. While the river valley is nice, it pales in comparison to the Rouge River in TO (the world’s largest urban nature reserve) and falls short of TO in terms of bike and walking trails. The festivals are nice, however there are far fewer of them then I would expect for a town of this size. I found that there was so much more to eat, do, and see in Windsor (a town less than ¼ the size). I’ve travelled extensively throughout Canada and I was really surprized by (in a bad way) by Edmonton.

I am surprized you didn’t mention crime. The murder rate in Edmonton tops that of Metropoloitan Toronto (a city nearly five times the size). While I lived there I witnessed muggings, was offered drugs several times, had my car broken into three times – my girlfriend had her car stolen twice (both times it was used as a getaway car in a robbery). I felt safer in Detroit.

Of course it all depends on your living conditions. In Edmonton I was a poor graduate student living a rough neighbourhood. Today I’m a College Prof working in Fort McMurray. I quite like Fort McMurray! I wouldn’t mind leaving but I’m tied to my mortgage – a 40 year old attached home that only cost a half million ;). In any case, I like the people I work with and I have almost nothing to do (directly) with the oil sands. I think part of the reason I like this town is that only 50% of the inhabitants are Albertans; which gives the town a surprizing multicultural feel (Edmonton always struck me as the whitest city on earth). 

Anyway, everyone has their own perspective…but I certainly have no intension of returning to Edmonton (it pains me just to visit). Incidentally, the tumbleweeds are released downtown and roll through the streets promptly at 8:00pm.

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 “I’ve only been here 8 months and I’m already depressed and anxious to go home. Driving to work is a nightmare, customer service is terrible, and there’s no privacy. While I have met some nice people, the vast majority of my experience has been negative. I lived in Calgary, Jacksonville FL, North Carolina, and Anchorage and this city is by far the rudest. I compare it to the hicks of Kentucky, actually. I’ve seen women beaten in the streets, children being abused, road rage that involved the entire road! I can’t read minds, PLEASE SIGNAL BEFORE YOU CUT ME OFF! I’m sure Edmontonians will be more than happy to say goodbye if I leave…and I will feel the same way. I can’t WAIT until I can say ‘GOOD RIDDANCE ALBERTA’

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No do not leave. You are truly giving them a reality check, for the real life of what it is like living in Edmonton.

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Edmonton poisons you. Get out before it changes you negatively.

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“Ive lived in my fair share of cites/towns across Canada, even Toronto. No place has left a more bitter taste in my mouth that Edmonton.


Ive found the people to be pretty well off the handle. Ive really never met so many people with psychological/behavioral/emotional problems. No one seems to have any coping skills outside of “gettin fu**in hammered” or cocaine or meth or all three. So many angry, aggressive people. Xenophobia is encouraged. So many internal divisions.. Everyone seems to hate everything, all the time.. 


Hate towards other provinces, hate towards other races hate towards what side of the city you live on, have towards you if your not from Edmonton. It just goes on and on..And so many people with so much ego and attitude that is un-substantiated.. 

So much community disconnect, its like living in a twisted version of high school all over again except with adults with the mentalities of teenagers.. 

Ive had so many negative experiences in Edmonton I have stopped counting.. From going to the bank, to driving , to walking to work in the mornings, to getting food poisoned, fired from jobs with no notice, land lords not returning security deposits, the list goes on and on and on.

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“You pretty well, explained what living in Edmonton is all about. I agree that Edmonton is a VERY negative city to be living in. I can say this, because I have been living in Edmonton, for thirty LOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGGGG YAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNN years.

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“When thinking of Edmonton hubris comes to mind, and it does not matter if the people are blue collar or white collar. Either been nowhere and know everything, or been a few places and still know everything.


Indeed Edmonton is located in the middle of nowhere and this is reflected in the fact for most international flights one has to feed through Calgary or Vancouver.

The essence of Edmonton, often referred to as Deadmonton, is a very large Fort McMurray, hardly cosmopolitan and very dull on every level; mediocre. 

Now there is talk of a new taxpayer funded hockey arena and the surrounding district (about a billion dollars) that somehow this is going to miraculously revitalise an entire city, especially the downtown “world class”. Some writer/moron even compared it to the Guggenheim Bilbao. People from all over the globe would be making pilgrimage to see the sacred arena district, where all would be overcome and have some sort of hockey and cultural epiphany . . . I nearly pissed myself. 


On the other hand this is pathetic . . . “Build it and they will come”.

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 “I’m from Edmonton and I must say this city is really fucking shitty. Everything about it sucks, the weather sucks, the architecture sucks, the night life sucks, the food selection sucks, ed hardy sucks, ppl who wear ed hardy sucks, how most guys in edmonton think theyre gangster sucks, rich kids who come from good families think theyre gangsters sucks, girls who think theyre from hollywood and try to live their life like its an mtv show sucks, how everyone loves to talk shit and act like their shit dont stink sucks, ppl who think listening to rap music makes them hard sucks (rappers are entertainers, theyre the same as justin bieber cept they swear more. They dont move drugs and they dont care what happens to your life, they just want that $15 of yours), guys who take steroids sucks, the city council sucks, guys who act tough and only fight when they outnumber ppl but speak the “no beef” when theyre outnumbered sucks, random stabbings sucks, innocent civilians getting attacked/mugged sucks, the bounce sucks, wannabe rappers sucks, snow removal system sucks, smoking crack sucks, the scenery sucks, how walking at night is not safe sucks, ppl who make decisions based on what a rapper or scarface would do sucks, idolizing scarface sucks (shits a movie not real, the real scarface died of syphilis)


I’ve had it with this city. I left a couple years ago to travel around the world then came back to find this city become even more of a dump. Ya Edmontonians will defend the city but most likely they havent been outside of alberta and see what other cities have to offer. People who cant distinguish rap /mtv/scarface and real life are pathetic. As for the city iself, it just doesnt have that spark, everything is so gloomy,plain, grey and cold.

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 “Hello everyone. I have lived in Edmonton for 1 year and 9 months, and am looking forward to my move in 5 days. I have travelled extensively throughout Canada and the USA, and lived in many places incl. Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, Winnipeg, Calgary, USA and Europe. I came here for work and while here made a great effort to explore Edmonton and surrounding areas. I have been to all the festivals, partied with the rednecks,explored Ukranian heritage, dined in the ethnic restaurants, shopped at the farmers markets, seen all the malls, hiked the river valley, visited small towns and lakes, made friends with educated people and oil workers, locals and foreigners alike. I tried hard to find something about Edmonton to love enough for me to stay but despite all of my exploration and experiences here I have found Edmonton to be lackluster and void of personality and charm. Most cities have a vibe or an energy but Edmonton doesn’t have it, and if it does…it’s so dull you barely feel it.


One thing that really bothered me about this city is the lack of walking communities and connectedness from one community to another. Also, living in Edmonton feels like living in the middle of nowhere. I put a lot of miles on my car and having said that, I will end with a positive note-this province does have good gas prices. 🙂

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 “Oh my, its like you read my mind and put all my thoughts of Edmonton, down on paper for me.

I am originally from London, UK but previously lived in Sydney, Australia. I was very disapointed when i arrived in Edmonton. I have been here for nearly two years and have hated most of my time here. The people are nice but the city is shit. I have nothing nice to say about the place and i can’t wait to be on my way again. We are just waiting to for my husbands visa to be approved an then we will be back to Sydney, where the transport is great, there are no box stores, chain restaurants, where the industrial areas are kept to one part of the city (on the outskirts) a place people are proud off living and there is more than a giant mall to visit. Edmonton is a terrible city to live in and will only seems get worse. I can’t wait to get the f%ck out of here.

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“I’ve lived in Edmonton for 26 years and agree with almost everything you have to say. For all of the individuals on this website that claim to be a proud citizen you are actually proving many of Ben’s points. Canada is a “freedom of speech” country and he can speak his mind all he wants therefor put your testicles back in your pants and leave them off of your trucks! City of what? Losers and want-to-be Eminem fags.

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“I’ve had the great fortune to live in 3 major cities, and 2 different countries in my lifetime. Edmonton is by far the worst. The sad thing is, it could be one of the best. What makes it suck is, like I mentioned earlier, it is full of douchebags (as we’ve seen direct evidence of, by their postings). I think I have only seen 1 person defend this city, with any intelligent arguments.


Teh problem with Edmonton, is that it is full of jobs that require no education, so that is exactly what you get…..a bunch of poorly educated fuckwits, who have no concept of anything outside of themselves and the oilers. If you mention anything outside of their world perception (which lets face it, is nearly everything) you get called a fag (because this is the worst thing in the world apparently).


Edmonton is full of people who have no critical thinking skills, and therefore believe whatever rag media they subscribe to, tells them. They question nothing, and the ones who do are shouted down by the morons who believe the rhetoric by someone who shouts louder.

It’s really like a small sister marryin’ town that grew into a city.

Like I said, it’s sad because it really has the potential to be great, if only someone with any kind of forethought was here to implement it. Unfortunately, as long as the dregs have any sway, we’ll always be a cesspit.

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“Wow this comment just adds another point to the original post. Think that the life in AB represents the world. Narrow-minded Albertans.. I also live in Edmonton for a quite awhile looking for an opportunity to get the hell out. Ppl from all the small farm towns can form their own utopia that doesn’t even function thinking that Edmonton is the best place on earth…. Hahaha what a joke…

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“I grew up in a developing country and been on 3 continents. Edmonton is THE WORST major city I’ve ever been in! By far! Agree with everything you said. In every country, and in every major city, you have problems. But these problems are compensated by positives. Edmonton doesn’t have any. Conservative people, disgusting looking city and infrastructure and awful ass backward everything. The whole province is like a post apocalyptic wasteland that’s trying its best to re-develop after discovering the cure to whatever caused the apocalypse. It’s like they know that they need to re-build after the doom that caused the city to go to waste, but they have no idea how.

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“Get the fuck out of Edmonton. Totally mismanaged bullshit. Edmonton raping the economy and it’s residence.

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“This city is a shithole

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“Biggest shithole in Canada

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“Edmonton is terrible the people are so rude and are all jerks not to mention the Edmonton public school system is a fucking joke

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“My name is also Ben. I have lived in Edmonton for a few years now. I’m originally from Ontario. I don’t agree with most of what you listed. I believe Edmonton is a GORGEOUS town with so many AMAZING THINGS to see and do. It is, HOWEVER, populated primarily by the biggest pieces of redneck, right-wing, racist, sexist, cheap, white, middle-aged, male shit. And they all drive giant, spotless, $100,000 trucks, bitch like children about carbon taxes and blame Rachel Notley for the weather. I don’t feel safe letting my family drive on the same roads as these selfish, careless, NEVER signalling morons who will HAPPILY run anyone off the road. It’s really that bad. Just spend 30 seconds on the Whitemud or try one of the roundabouts in the city. Not signaling on a multi-lane roundabout at rush hour is something that idiots and psychopaths do. Edmonton’s got those in spades. Rant over. EDMONTON IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE IT JUST ALSO HAPPENS TO BE FULL OF THE BIGGEST ASSHOLES IN CANADA. I’m moving to BC as soon as possible. Seriously if God’s going to smite a town, it’ll be this one.

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“Edmonton is shit. A poor excuse for a city. I moved here 5 years ago and the past years have been the most difficult of my life. Every winter I feel like blowing my brains out, but I don’t want my parents to know that I died in a shithole Alberta city called Edmonton. They would never forgive me. The people here are dumb and oblivious. If there was ever a modern equivalent to Plato’s cave, Edmonton would be it. Life is too short to suffer in Edmonton. I am so happy I’m leaving. Fuck this place.


I just don’t understand how people say they work 10 or 12 hour days like it’s something to be proud of all the while the city still looks like shit and projects are still behind. LRT metro line to nait is a ….trainwreck, and the walterdale bridge is delayed, again. Let’s put a pile of silver balls by a freeway so people can marvel at the wonders of our city and call it art.


“man every time I see a cyclist by the road I just want to run it over with my truck” – overheard at school.


“I was in millwoods the other day. Holy fuck, its fucking pakistan out there. People were looking at me like wtf. I’m glad I live in Spruce Grove” – my foreman.


Take a risk, it’s the most Edmonton thing you can do.

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“I lived here for 2 years now. I am a person who makes his own mind up about things. If others are saying shit about someone or a place I would like to experience it myself before I make my mind up about it. From what I’ve experienced. What is said in this forum is true. People, you are not alone with your thoughts about this place.

and Trevor from Millwoods your comment

“The thing about Edmonton is we’re not trying to compare ourselves to Toronto or Vancouver, Montreal, Halifax, Winnipeg Edmonton is just Edmonton and that’s it we barely feel like we’re are part of Canada at the best of times so when you bash us it just reaffirms it and we’ve learned to embrace it because if people out east hate us we must be doing something right”

maybe you don’t feel like you’re apart of Canada because people here don’t act like Canadians. You act like Spoiled Teenagers who think they’re better than everybody else.


PS, when all you could say about a City is Work(school), Drink and going to a Mall, you know your city is just a bunch of Teenagers.

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“Yup, the douchebag population of Edmonton is still high.

Doesn’t change the fact that the people in your city are a bunch of xenophobic, knuckle dragging assholes.

“Get a trade, get laid, get paid, dude! Oh yeah and if some dude’s by himself and he’s dressed better than someone not wearing an Edmonton Oiler’s hockey jersey, then it means they’re a total faggot”.


That’s the mantra that comes out of most of the dumb asses in your city.


Bored in Edmonton? Well just go down to Whyte Ave or the Oil City roadhouse and start a fight with a cop, just for kicks. No cops available? No problem, just fuck with any security guard you want.


The city’s nice and easy to get around in and the rent was amazing but you guys have some serious rat and vermin problems, aka: the people who live there mixed in with the city being the murder capital of Canada.

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Plus it takes ten blizzards before your crews even crawl out of bed to plough the streets in winter.

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“theres only two types of weather in Edmonton eather really cold or really hot

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“Edmonton is Alberta’s shitty asshole

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“10 years later and nothings really changed. Edmonton is still lame.


I’ve been here 7 1/2 long years. The money of course, compared to cost of living back home in Toronto.


About 4-5 years ago I saw potential in Edmonton and thought it could be a great city maybe in the next ten years. Nope. It’s a little better due to a hockey arena and more LRT. but it’s still boring. People are still dicks. And I will gladly be leaving this place finally within the year.


Edmonton is nice if you like the quiet boring life. I’ll admit that. It more for the folly, farmers market, cross country skiing type people. I find that stuff dull as hell so definitely not for me. But if you’re that wait than sure, it’s a good place. Or meeting up in the Canadian tire parking lot with your pickup truck buds.Something that’s also very Edmonton.


I’ll be out of here soon enough. All the best Edmonton.

(Source)

Thunder Bay: Rants

“We are a small family possibly moving to TB. What areas should we avoid when renting or buying a house? What areas would you recommend? Thanks

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“the entire city

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Don’t move here all you are going to find are little darlins with snake-like wet skin that drink ethanol from morning til dusk trying to dream the real dream which was robbed of them during the pretend treaty making process. The other thing you will find are the reptiles called the old town wondering around without leashes crapping on everyone and everything that has two ears. Right now the crappers are up in apartment 1, 14 Regent St. Thunder Bay, Ontario atempting to kill or maim psychologically or physically the three good Indians living below them, so turn around and stay in Saskatoon unless you are one of them crappers.

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“One piece of advice: don’t move here.

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“I moved out in ’94 after 34 years…

DO NOT spend a load of money on house….DICKER!!….I know SK is hot right now….don’t put your SK money into a TB house….TB is the only ON city that has a declining population.. 
TB realtors are living in the 80s…..they play the same ol’ game…just like the pirate car dealers there…do not be fooled by them!! 
I am better in the S.Ward…..stay out of the east end…downtown core….Westfort….parts of Northward (ugh)….Green Acres is good…Victoria Park is good (Chestnut, Walnut)…Riverview is nice….new developments in the country are nice… 
In TB is see a scary trend…..VACANT homes for sale….not a stick of furniture….maybe in 20% of the homes I have seen….AND I CHECK LOTS!!! 
My home in TB sold for 187,500 in late ’94…worth 175 now….my QC home went from 155K to almost 300K (down now along with everyone else’s but not that much) 
TB has a load of good things about it….good luck…have a Sally Ann on me…

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Thunder bay sucks unless your retired or native. There is nothing to do and everyone knows everything about eachother since its such a small city. Theres no places to party and everyones right pyscho and whore.. and everyone thinks they can be models here but lemme tell you thats not the case. SO i would say stay where you are.

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“Do not move to this hell hole, also known as Blunder Bay. I have resided here for 42 years. The only time I thought it was a nice place to live was when I was young and naive. Limited employment, a high crime rate, a lack of anything substantial to do as well as the extremely high tax rate (2.5X that of Toronto, based on a homes assessed value) makes it an undesirable place to live. The jokers in City Hall insist on wasting the tax payer’s money on expensive and mostly unnecessary projects. Redoing the marina (to make it smaller and less attractive) with a price tag of well over 100 million dollars, a new hospital (over budgeted – maybe double the price), planning a new, multi-million dollar events center (w/limited parking) which no one will use, so on and so forth. This is all passed on to the hard working tax payer’s of the city. When residents sign petitions or request plebiscites, we are laughed at and basically told to shut up. Never mind the lack of proper infrastructure upkeep. An improperly designed sewage treatment plant recently flooded homes/businesses and displaced 100’s of families. A class action lawsuit against the city is on the books now and if the residents win, guess who foots the bill! Don’t even think about going out for a leisurely walk, at any time, unless you’re in a large group or carry a weapon! Population wise, approximately 22% are bogies. They flock to Blunder Bay to drink, do drugs, rob, steal, assault, murder, all while never contributing to society. The only thing they are good at is breeding – produce kids like rabbits to live off the rich’s of the city. The only reason I’m still here is my transfer has not come through. I would gladly take a loss on my home and/or possessions to leave this cesspool. I could write a book! Do not take my word of it – do your own research and make it thorough. If you don’t and you choose to move here, you will likely regret it! Best of luck!

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“the poster disapoitned is the reason we are taking over this town. if you are NATIVE then we welcome you here!!! whites keep off our land.

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“lol Hardly taking over! Epic fail if you think you’re taking over as the jails are over crowded and there is more native on Native Crime. What was that in the last 5 days? Two Native Murders killed by two different Natives. As the Fort William Band is working hard in business working with the general population of Thunder Bay, You lil’ bastards are making them look bad!

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“Thunder Bay really, really sucks. I moved there to work in a lab- most of the people that I worked with didn’t know the first thing about chemistry (seriously). Turns out they were all friends- and also back-stabbing, two-faced, lying, sabotaging, jerks. Avoid this place like the plague it is.

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“Thunder Bay has gone down hill…all they do is spend money building when we have plaenty of vacant buildings which could use refurbishing.
Years ago when I was young and it was Port Arthur & Fort William it used to be real nice & safe..a cop on the beat all the time..they would get to know the people in their area..I loved it then..left so many times..why I came back..heaven only knows

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“Thunder Bay is just a huge reserve now.
Come here, pop out a few FAS babies, live of the guv-mint titte.
Guess who pays?

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 “Yea…STAY AWAY. This town is pathetic! Cold as f*ck, and the transit sucks.

Can’t walk 5 blocks without some skid asking for a smoke.
No jobs, useless cops, oxy-zombies everywhere and high rent costs…
I’m looking for a way out!

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“You know what makes this city suck? All the racist b***ards, that’s why you shouldn’t move here. All I hear and read is f***ing Indian this, f***ing Indian that. I like to inform everyone that I’m native and probably have more education than most of you, I’ve worked with the homeless, the drunks, the drug addicts and do you know they funny thing, most were white. But I didn’t judge, I tried to help, I fed them I gave them clothes I helped them get into detox. Get off your racist a**es and help someone, we all bleed red and we all have problems, be f***ing human beings and stop the hating. Dumb a**es.

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“Open your eyes. Go walk around May and Victoria for half an hour and see.

It’s not that we’re a bunch of racists who hate natives… It’s the fact that we have a high concentration of the worst elements of reserve life thriving and growing in our downtown cores. 
A person like you who is educated and native isn’t part of the problem.
It’s your 94 cousins all drinking lysol in the back alley and robbing Macs stores that’s the problem.  
If I got free schooling like you did, I’d take advantage too. I don’t know why more don’t do it.

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 “Lived in T Bay for a few yrs. Glad I moved. It’s a gross city. It’s the Detroit of Canada. Honestly. Horrible drivers. Big city attitudes. People passing out drunk outside your bathroom window at 4 in the morning. True story. Constantly being asked for smokes. Crack heads everywhere. I don’t even like going there to visit.

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“Yeah, you’re right, we are born a bunch of stinkin’ crackah racists.

Or perhaps this profiling is true 90% of the time? What do you think?
Was I born racist, or did I learn to be this way based on the FACTS?
Don’t want to hear about “f***ing Indians”?, it’s simple….
Stop them from acting like a Bogan. And yes, there are a lot of them.
Until then, I will continue to be racist, since it has done me well.

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 “I would never suggest anyone move to Thunder Bay, place is a dump! Drunk natives walking around everywhere, ruining the city! And SOME Police Officers are just power tripping disrespectful pieces of crap who don’t deserve a badge, or they cheat on there wife, and ruin a family! Eh Bob or Robert N…?

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“I live in tbay and it’s not a great place! I am currently going to lake head but may transfer out to somewhere else next year! The people generally are very backstabbing and think they are worth more than they are! Simply put its not a good place to invest. There is a lack of leadership in the city! It needs a change and I would advise to avoid at all costs!

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“Thunder Bay is really bad now, it’s ok if you live in current river Thunder Bay North but avoid all other areas

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“I believe you, as I have education BUT no one in TBay considers natives period. It is a racist town, and most addicts are white. Too proud to admit it, but love to put the minorities down them ghosts :P. I keep up with the news and more of these ghosts are being exposed on the news great job. Even for the simple jobs, how many natives you see employed? More immigrants migrating here taking jobs from the CaucASIANS, that’s good! I couldn’t even tell one white from the other because they all have the same face.

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“DO NOT MOVE HERE for ANY reason.

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“I agree never move here. Horrible town and power tripping police! Aint that right Mr. R Neill.. biggest arse on the force!

Natives drunk passed out all over the city. The youth here are such wanna be followers.

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(Source:  http://www.topix.com/forum/ca/thunder-bay-on/TRN99HLH65PIUE5QS/p2)

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Thunder Bay is a horrible city. I live here and it sucks. The people are nasty small mined idiots. I hate, hate, hate Thunder BAy
BTW- I’ve lived ALL over the world, big cities and small. So my assessment of this city is just. It’s a racist (Aboriginal child having his hair chopped off-google it), homophobic (gay bashing google it) town. Stay a day or two, or just keep driving.

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“I grew up in Southern Ontario, and travelled with the family across Canada —I have had some great experiences travelling and seeing this great country of ours. In July of 2007 I married my hubby who had taken a job in Thunder Bay. Lets just say in my time here in Thunder Bay I have hated 85% of my time here and count the days and weeks we have left in this city. I’ve never meet so many complainers in my life………people here blame everything on people from Toronto its hilarious. They complain that all they’re mills are shutting down and Toronto isn’t helping them, Even though you wonder if these places in T-Bay couldn’t stay with the times and come up with plans before the need for paper supplies deminished or realized how many people really are running to stores for snowmobiles, how many snowmobiles does this country need???? Wonder why everyone is losing jobs here, how about creating jobs that are up to date or invent some shit to make jobs??? Then the race war between Natives and “Whites” Its embarrassing (I’m actually Metis) and how the local Chronicle Journal posts hate letters from both sides in their Letters to the editor every week to fuel this race war….pathetic!! 

I will only look back in my experience living in this city as the city limits were beautiful with nature and the fishing was excellent and the neighbours I had were lovely but this City is living in the dark ages and they hate everyone outside of Thunder Bay and are a bunch of blamers, like I said this city is pathetic!

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“Sure, Thunder bay is great if you work at the hospital, or are a schoolteacher with June July and August as your best reasons for becoming one. But the city sucks donkey balls. Private Industry is dead, except for the couple of construction companies the city continually feed. The town was cut up like an apple pie 50 years ago, and the reason no business comes here is because of the monopoly attitude. City Hall even LIED about the MILLIONS they BORROWED to fix up the old fogeys’ home, then did an abrupt about-face, gave the homes to the province, and took that BORROWED TAXPAYER MONEY and GAVE it to some favorite cronies. There’s a law called Criminal False Prospectus, but the local fraud cops are in the pocket of City Hall. 

Sure, the wilderness is nice, but don’t try to actually purchase a TINY piece for yourself because it’s simply not allowed. Besides, who likes being harrassed by the OPP and MNR when you’re out fishing?  

Yup. A great place for civil servants, their cronies and natives. Everyone else had best leave, ASAP, if you want some sort of future for yourself. Those are my plans, to sell out and split, but hey, did you know that you can’t even GIVE AWAY an amethyst mine around here?

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 “Stuck in Thunder Bay – it was the city or my marriage (husband’s family is here). I think I may actually be clinically depressed. Thank God for Grand Marais, Duluth, Minneapolis, and our airport.

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“Well, I spent the first 20 years of my life then moved away for school, and I gotta say, after seeing the entire country, and a good chunk of this wonderful planet we call home, I can honestly say that Thunder Bay blows. And I’m serious as can be. Unfortunately, my parents are still there so I am forced to make my way there once a year, and I dread my two weeks there. For all the people who defend this city, you’re obviously fallen of your rocker.

I laughed at the clean air comments….cuz the smell of shit coming from the paper mill on a hot summer day is all so pleasant…pleasant enough that when you go to Old Fort William trading post, you know the biggest tourist attraction of the city, you can smell the nice pleasant smell of rotting shit. And when was the last time you let your children swim in boulevard lake? And hey, do you dare to walk downtown port arthur at night? No. Or how about taking a nice stroll down May street or Simpson street, at any time of the day? No. Wait, wait, let’s all go to county park where it’s just a massive neighborhood of violent crimes, drugs and poverty. Hmm, that won’t work either. Should we make our way to the community auditiorium for a decent concert…oh shoot they don’t get any. Well, I guess we can always go check out all the neat little shops/boutiques/cafes/nice restaurants….uhh, what? Their aren’t any? My bad. Hey about naming one decent/pub/bar/nightclub in this city…oops, can’t do that either. 

Do any of you rememeber the hype in ’94 when it was announced that Thunder Bay was getting the real canadian superstore? Yes, fellow readers of this blog, there was actually a ceremony for the opening of this momentus occasion. And getting the walmart around the same time was like winning the bid for the olympics..only with less economic impact, less low paying jobs, and more reasons for city council to destroy the core of the city. Also, do any of you Thunder Bayites remember the plan to build the expressway all the way out near Kakebeka, then the city ran out of money, and it ended at golf links road? For about 15 years of my life growing up, there was this giant clearing at the end of the harbour expressway(which by the way, it’s only about 3 km’s long LOL) and about 50 feet of pavement just left there to wither away like the Fort William Gardens. And someone here mentioned the housing prices…well there’s only one reason, and one reason only for that….no money. If you all want cheap housing where you have a shot at a livable income, go to Windsor, I almost did, but I ended up in Oshawa where I currently reside. And as for Toronto and area not having nature…any of you heard of Niagara Falls? One of the natural wonders of the world. Hell, I have a cottage in havlock, located in the best known, most famous cottaging/recreational area on the planet…the muskokas. Oh but I’m sure Ouimet canyon beats Georgian bay right? Located 50 minutes from Toronto. Skiing in Thunder Bay? Ya sure. Let’s go to Loch Lohmond, or Big Thunder and have the crap spewing from the paper mill blown right in our faces. And of course Mt Baldy, with what, 7 runs? Sorry, I’d much rather go to Collingwood(45 minutes from Toronto) where it actually is world class skiing and resorts, as opposed to go to a ski hill that had the World Nordic championships, and couldn’t do Giant Slalom or super G. 


You Tbay people can all rant about nature…but you have obviously not see the rest of the most beautiful country on the planet that we call home. Thunder Bay is a cess pool of filth, crime, and unemployment. The roads are shit, the transit, well tbay transit eh…I’ve seen better trasnsit in places like Regina, Swift Current, North Bay and Saint John New Brunswick. And I have yet to visit a city in my life that has more boarded up schools. Like crap man, my school, black bay road public school, has spent 15 years collecting dust. It really says alot of about a city when I can say that growing up in Current River, I lived in the best part of the city. Which ain’t saying much cuz I lived a 10 minute walk from one of the largest psychiatric facilities in the country…which speaking of which, my high school was located right across the stret from. 


Sorry to rant like this, but hopefully people here thinking of going to visit/move thunder bay…you’d best keep going to Kenora, Dryden or Atikokan…this way you can avoid getting your head kicked in by a gang of natives, or a gang of white folk who think your native, and also to see real nature, and not some random group of trees that we call a bush…anyone else notice that Ouimet canyone is starting to look like a dump from all the garbage thrown down there? Ok, sorry I’ll stop now….after I mention the fact that Thunder Bay has the second highest percentage of people in Ontario living offof welfare…google it ;). How’s that for employment prospects?

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 “Avoid Thunder Bay unless you’re touring. The whole city is run on nepotism and cronyism, the city council and mayor haven’t a clue on how to run the city, the economy is in the toilet, and frankly, these are all reasons why people want to move out of the city. 


I’ve lived here all my life, and I can tell you that as a 26-year old with a background in computer animation and an English degree, there is NOTHING here for me. The people with the money don’t want to see new industries come in and create competition and new jobs, the jobs that are here are for those who graduate high school and don’t want to do anything else to further their education, and frankly, the paper mill is whistling past the graveyard, employing a small fraction of what it once could.  


It’s sad, but when you realize how incredibly stubborn and stupid the city has been in terms of bringing in new jobs or improvements, you honestly get angry and stop caring, altogether. Why? Because people in the city have been doing it for years. Soon, the city will turn into another Elliot Lake or a gigantic reserve for the First Nations. Everyone who graduates from the medical school here wants to go somewhere else for work because of the aging population and political games. Same with the university and college. What good is staying when all the answers you get while trying to get a job involve call centres, nursing and truck driving?

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 “I was born and raised in Thunder Bay. My sister and me moved to Vancouver. We were appalled at the lack of customer service, smiles and thank you’s. It was almost painful!!! These people hate it here and don’t mind showing it. I’ve moved back due to some unfortunate events and am counting the days till I leave. Don’t get me wrong, it’s really beautiful..but, if you’re not an outdoorsy type there is little here. A cultural wasteland comes to mind. The locals like it the same(change is a scary thing!)..Tim Hortons and every restaurant featuring the same menu seems to do well. In general, the people here don’t mind going for their groceries wearing their breakfast on their clothes. Racism, homophobia and sexism is the norm. Which equals people like me running very quickly in the opposite direction. Let the giant sleep.

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“If you are wondering why many of the locals are down on their town there is: the lack of jobs unless you have connections or luck, some of the stupidest most myopic car driver’s in the country along with badly synchronized lights that makes for needless stop-and-go traffic, mediocre city transit that has limited evening times and ends around midnight, needless urban sprawl that goes beyond the large city limits. There always seems to be the need to tear down much of the old to build something new (with no guarantees on workmanship and costs way over estimates). The fix is also in on many things from the vote for the city name (purposely splitting the vote by offering ‘Lakehead’, ‘The Lakehead’, and ‘Thunder Bay) to city council asking for citizen opinion on big projects when it already has it’s mind made up to if, how big, and where they will be, to local contractors being the tail that wags the dog on city building fixing and building projects. 


The isolation of the city doesn’t help – you are a good 7 hour drive from anywhere bigger (Minneapolis and Winnipeg). The only close city of around the same size is Duluth/Superior.  


As far as the comment by IRK wondering why people who are “stuck” here don’t leave. The cost of living isn’t too high (that may change if the local gov’t keeps increasing taxes for it’s many recent white elephant projects), they may still have friends and family here or other commitments, and who is going to leave unless they have a better job lined up elsewhere without a skyrocketing cost to their housing. The philosophy being the devil you know is better than the one you don’t even if you are working several McJobs (which IRK probably isn’t – if you have a regular secure good paying job anywhere can be good).  

The recent “boom” mentioned by IRK doesn’t help anyone who has been here for a while and doesn’t have very recent education and experience in the precise field needed. Most of the “boom” only helped those outside of the city getting a job here and only slightly indirectly helped a few here.

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“Having lived all over Canada and multiple places overseas I can say with confidence that Thunder Bay is indeed a shit hole. The author of this article shouldn’t be criticized, he manage to point out a few nice points about this place, which is not an easy task. The nature surrounding Thunder Bay is fantastic, the city itself is shit. 


Living in Thunder Bay is kind of like living in some sort of groundhog-day-esque, 1980’s surrealist nightmare complete with mullets, hair band classic rock, Reganistic attitudes towards anything progressive but without any of the jobs that came with the 80’s.  

Most trucks are jacked up higher than their drivers IQ’s. Vomiting spaghetti on a map would probably have been a more sensible and aesthetically pleasing approach to city planning. Locals are not welcoming unless you have wallowed in the same gene puddle together for most of your life. Plus it snowed into May this year, which is some whole new level of bullshit anywhere south of the 60th parallel.  

I cannot wait to be done work here and get the hell out. I have been here off and on for about 5 years, having spent the last 2 years here in a row and can say with the utmost confidence that when I pack up and leave this little backwards frozen-turd-nugget of a town I will never return. Sorry for the negativity but other than nice nature T-Bay has no redeeming qualities whatsoever!

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Ottawa: RANTS

Want to hear what people think of the nation’s capital Ottawa? Unlike the false tourism advertising, here’s a taste of the TRUTH – from people who have lived it!


“As an outsider to this town and now living here, working and attending school, Ottawa SUCKS. Badly. The people are grumpy, uptight, self-centered, and cheap. The drivers are idiots and can’t shoulder check let alone multi-task, i.e. check mirrors AND drive at the same time. 40 km an hour everywhere they drive?! Or 140 on the highway about to plow into you should you decide to signal and try to change lanes, then finger you. The food sucks here, public establishments are sub-par for the most part, and the flat characterless nature of the town speaks volumes. Wonder why there are no photos of Ottawa other than that of parliament and the Canal in brochures and on websites? Because to show suburbia on a flat plain with huge power lines running through them with concrete government drab buildings and big box store plazas would be a tourism mistake. This town needs a serious kickstart and a massive injection of culture. This town bites.”

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“I have lived here all my life and it’s the same shithole. OC Transpo are a bunch of fucking goofs. Shitty Nightlife. Dirty Cops. Bad Food. The drivers are bad too the second a flake of snow hits the ground its like these idiots forget how to drive. The Hockey Team is absolute shit and I hate their fans. Overall Ottawa is not a city to be proud of.”

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“OMG I can’t believe it, it’s so nice to see that my boyfriend and I are not alone in in thinking that this is a bloody nightmare of a city where everybody goes around acting like it’s just perfectly normal to behave like dicks.


There are two acceptable activities in this area, Working is one, driving to work is the other. Nobody here knows how to live let alone have fun. Their apartment buildings look like hell holes so we have to pay a fortune in tax just to live in Hull because we can’t afford to pay to live like executives and in Ottawa the only alternative is to live in a building that looks like an episode of CSI. 


Every single day I watch people in black SUV’s and BMW’s run red lights and break the speed limit and never ever get a ticket, I’ve never seen an expensive care pulled over here, only crappy cars. 


People here are also weird beyond belief, whenever I meet somebody normal it turns out they’re from out of town. I wake up every morning and by the end of every day I wonder a couple of things like “am I dreaming?” “Why am I still living here?” and “When is Will Smith gonna show up and tell me all these people are androids?”


I am still here because I am learning French. As soon as I am bilingual You will be able to see the peeled rubber from my car from here till Montreal on the 417 from space.”

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“You are all right, cultureless, boring, boring lazy civil servants who make up the bulk of the population, with no drive other than to plod along in a simpleton way who hate their lives and their worthless jobs…people cannot drive to save their lives, there is no where decent to shop, unless you like plain drab atire. What has this city got going for it? Nothing, its just a big hillbillie country town. I will be returning home as soon as my training is complete.”

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“Ya, I’m with all of you. I’m from Toronto and got suckered into moving here from my Montreal husband (naturally opposed to Toronto) when we met because there were no IT jobs in London (Ont.). Now? All the IT jobs are relocated to T.O. and guess what… he is applying to them and I cannot wait to go home. Finally. Out of the city of the fucking huge assholes into the normalcy of real life. I hate this goddamned city more than any one of you here. If a hurricane swept through here after we leave, hell no I would not come here to volunteer to rebuild – I would just buy a plane ticket to New Orleans and help there instead.”

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“I have lived in Ottawa on and off for years, having traveled for quite some time away from here. It is safe to say most people really do suck here. Very lazy civil servants, corrupt government officials who wire business to their friends and anyone willing to grease their palms (even though this is directly against government procurement policy), and very boring people. They should carpet bomb the place!”

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“Well it actually kind of depresses me and encourages me all at once to read the comments that have been posted here. It is a confirmation that other people actually think this place sucks as much as I do..so it is a relief maybe I am not going crazy after all. I find it so unfriendly here…The depressing part is I just can’t seem to figure out how to leave unless I just cash my pension, sell the house and get the hell out of here. Quite a risk. I don’t think I can stand another cold frozen hell of a winter and all I fantasize about is Arizona…sigh…”

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“I totally agree with all the people who hate this city. It is pure garbage. The city has no culture, just the typical government BS. It seems like everyone in Ottawa has a sense of entitlement from their cushy low-work and high-pay government job. No one in this town has manners, no one says thank you, you get poor to no service everywhere. Aggressive homeless people are everywhere in the city center. It’s a closed minded city with a serious case of Toronto-envy.”

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“All these Ottawans call people from Toronto snobs. People from Toronto aren’t snobs, they’re realists. Toronto is very much a city where hard work pays off. Ottawa is a city where entitlement reigns.”

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“I am from Vancouver and I had an internship placed in Ottawa for 4 months during the winter months. All aspects of the city and the general feeling of the place really really sucked to the point where it is bad for your mental health. People and the place there are totally weird and out of touch. Food in the food courts taste worse than dog food. Downtown areas totally empty when the weather gets really cold, and if you are lucky you’ll see very sparse number of people within a distance near malls. Nearly all the buildings look archaic, greyish, senseless and totally boring for your eyes. The entire city looks like a military compound, ok im exaggerating a bit but you get the idea…”

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“A While ago we moved from Montreal, you know where it’s fun, to Ottawa…

>.> 
Few words needed to describe the place.. 
All Work, No Fun, Go at Red Lights Stop at Green Lights…
Thats about it. lol 
overall it really sucks.. No Subway, Zoo or amusement park >.>”

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“Is Ottawa boring? It all depends.

Here are my own personal observations: 
I’ve met some people here that absolutely love it.
In some cases, the salary can make the difference between borderline suicidal boredom or fantastic fun. 

Socially, Ottawa feels like a big village and at 1 million metro population that’s quite odd. Many outsiders have a hard time integrating and making friends here.

If you’re standing at a bus stop, or anywhere else for that matter, and start a conversation, they look at you like you’re an alien from outerspace. They’re so aloof, cautious and xenophobic in this city. Funny thing is every time someone speaks to me…well…they’re not from here. 

Everyone I knew that wasn’t from Ottawa left and never came back. 

My biggest pet peeve about Ottawa? No one moves. Is it so difficult to move over to the right and/or say “excuse me”?! 

People here are also afraid of any type of change to their precious Ottawa. Not-in-my-backyard mentality prevails here. Just try to build a bridge or get a subway going! They’re 20 years behind as far as a subway goes! When Montreal and Toronto hit the 1 million population mark, their subway was built, lit and ready to haul ass. Ottawa hasn’t dug a hole. 2010 around the corner and nothing. 


But, they have the Transitway! Big #$!@$# deal! It only takes 2 centimeters of snow to paralyze their stupid bus system. Some routes take forever to get to the one place you need to go. Sometimes you’re better off walking. In many cases, you’ll get there by car in 1/5th the time. So what’s the point to public transportation?! To add insult to injury, then there are those moon base alpha bus stations in the middle of nowhere out in a field with access to nowhere. Whose the genius that thought of that?! 


Ottawa also has horrible urban planning.

Ottawa also has that flatest skyline I’ve ever seen for a city its size. God forbid they build a real skyscraper downtown and pass that tower up on Parliament Hill. Oh-my-god, I remember when they wanted to build the pedestrian overpass over the canal. Damn! You’d thought they were going to nuke the city or something. People here panic if a squirrels farts. They’re so conversative!! Drives me nuts. No vision. Any change and they go into a seizure. 

Their downtown is not really a downtown. It’s just a bunch of government offices. Where’s private sector?! Hardly any diversity at all. Downtown is dead after 5. Heck, downtown is dead, period. 

Ottawa is such a repressive city. I’ve never seen anything like it. 

Ottawa also lacks ethnic diversity. It’s very much “white”. By the way, I’m caucasian but the way I’m treated here it’s like I’m from planet Zoltar. Ottawa has 14% (or less) ethnic diversity. Ottawa needs ethnic diversity to spice it up, give it a soul and a vibe.

So, is Ottawa boring? I find Ottawa is more repressive than boring. Other cities won’t make you feel alienated or feel like an outsider like Ottawa does. 

You can have fun in Ottawa but the people here lack spontaneity. And, I’m not talking about going out to bars and getting hammered. No, I’m talking about the ease of making friends, the vibe of the city, it’s openess, the people, the economy and diversity.

Again, I think it’s more repressive than boring. Ottawa has a closed economy and it’s a government town. 

If someone is not happy here, the bad news is it won’t change overnight.

If someone has the opportunity (and $$$$) to leave, they should leave because Ottawa will still be Ottawa tomorrow, the next day and the next day and the next…etc.”

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“ottawa suks balls, most people smoke weed from parking lot to parking lot”

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‘OC Transpo are a bunch of fucking goofs. Shitty Nightlife. Dirty Cops. Bad Food. The drivers are bad too the second a flake of snow hits the ground its like these idiots forget how to drive. The Hockey Team is absolute shit and I hate their fans. Overall Ottawa is not a city to be proud of.’
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PERFECT DESCRIPTION!!!!”

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“How about a motto for Ottawa … 🙂

Ottawa-The Waiting Room of Life.”

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“Ottawa – the place where hope goes to die.”

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“In response to: “…Maybe the problem isn’t Ottawa, it’s people who can’t learn to set aside their sad, deeply embedded negativity and see that for all its flaws, Ottawa, like every other Canadian city, is a wonderful and vibrant place….”

No, see, its people like you who are the sad negative types who spout veiled hostility any time someone has a different opinion than you. 

Ottawa has its good qualities, fair enough. On the other hand, this city obviously has legitimate problems as well, which many users’ comments have repeatedly expressed. Dismissing those commenting about these issues as being jaded and having “deeply embedded negativity” is in itself negative in nature and self-defeating. Why shouldn’t people post their opinions, whether they’re in favor of the way things currently are or not? God forbid anyone actually read any of the aforementioned concerns of the public and work towards improving the situation… 

You may say nobody likes a shitty attitude, but nobody likes a pretentious one either.”

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“While society may be going up or down depending on whether you live in North America or China & India, relative to other cities in Canada Ottawa truly does suck on a galactic black hole scale.


I’ve been here for only a few weeks and have a few weeks left in my short term contract (thank god!) and can’t wait to get back to the lovely Vancouver rain! 

There are real problems in this city that are frustratingly unnecessary, but because this city is predominately filled with polisci types that don’t actually know how to do anything, but whose primarly skill is superficially getting along and passive-aggressivly attacking anyone raising issues or offering solutions, nothing will get done.

In case you don’t know, here are the obvious problems that are relatively easy to solve or unneccesary. 

* Horrible transit (Never have a seen so many resources squandered so badly to provide such bad service for so few people) 

* Why the hell do you all smoke? And why glare at me or complain if I quietly re-seat myself on a patio to escape your weak-willed filthy habit. 

* Lack of short-term accommodation/crappy hotels.
I’m not staying and don’t want to stay at the damn pretentious Chateau Laurier… and a $150 for a Travelodge with a lumpy bed?! 

* Horrible/dangerous drivers 

* Weird people. Aloof wait staff and cashiers that like to mumble in a monotone and are quick to get agitated by even friendly requests for information.”

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“OMG so true, and it sounds like you haven’t even come in contact with the colorful folk of King Edward at St Patrick. LOL, if you’re only here for a few more weeks I would strongly suggest staying away from Hull, the facade of exquisite landscaping hiding behind it virtually unimaginable levels of ignorance; a large population witch seem to believe that it is perfectly normal to have 12+ hour ER wait times and no family doctors, and they pay thousands more a year in tax to receive these lousy public services. It is a language obsessed failure, leeching off of English Canada’s capital and somehow manages to also be an insult to the rest of Quebec by not even celebrating June 24’th or being able to make a decent poutine! The single, solitary benefit of Gatineau is affordable rent for apartments that don’t look like they should be condemned, but then again, Ottawa can be blamed for not being able to provide affordable rentals. It should not cost the same to rent a clean apartment that doesn’t smell like a puppy mill or have gun shot holes in the foyer as it does to mortgage a half million dollar estate.”

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“I moved to Ottawa from the crappiest city in Canada (aside from Winnipeg)- windsor, ON. Reason: jobs in my field. And let me tell you, I had to move after two years and its miracle I even lasted that long. I get the whole big city mentality that comes when people mistakenly believe they are the best citizens ever because they live in the capital, but its gotten downright scary. I worked in a shelter where addicts were dumped there by the mental hospital who spend your taxdollars on locking up people who have mental illness and addiction issues and then dump them into a massive shelter where no one has to look at them, rather than, you know, using the billions of dollars wasted on low-life CEO’s actually working to get these people better and off the welfare system that we all pay for with our hard-earned working money. I have seen cops beat up homeless people for sport- NOT an exaggeration. And when you go to a store? Try asking a question. Seriously, ANY question. Guranteed you will either get a rude response OR someone speaking that ugly FAKE dying duck French that they think is “real”. I was schooled my entire lie in France-based French (I’m European) and I couldn’t get work in Ottawa because I have been told to my face literally- “We don’t like the French you speak.” My suggestion? go to ANY OTHER French speaking nation on Earth (including the carribean) and then tell me whose French is proper. Oh yeah, another thing- Canada is BILINGUAL. Meaning, speaking only Quebecois crap and two words of English DOES. NOT. COUNT.”

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“Ten years ago I escaped the smallest town I ever lived in. (ottawa)

I moved to a town of 20,000 where there are happy honest people who actually work for a living and care for each other. 

take a hillbilly, stick him in some useless BS university course on the taxpayers bill, teach him to be incompetent in TWO languages, then overpay him in a pointless government job to be unaccountable and you have someone who spends a lifetime in ottawa

other than the double wide trailer deep down a lot of them have wasted their lives.

GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN at any cost, your children will thank you”

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“Wow, thumbs up to Madison, I can’t get anything done right here let alone ask a question at a store. For three years now I’ve not had a single hair cut done right, or an oil change…pretty much anything that’s not completely in my control is done wrong. Stuck here for the work, if CEO’s would get off their high horses and implement work-from-home software I’d be out of here in a flash. To be honest I think people driving in traffic for hours every day to go and sit on a computer and answer a telephone is ridiculously primitive. Everything my husband does at work he is able to do from remote logon at home but they want him to go in and use their computer, their hydro, their heating and for no reason, he works alone anyway. It’s so bloody stupid. Remote work would get half of us out of this wretched city we don’t even need to be living in.”

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“The above posts are a lot more thorough than I could be. Suffice it to say, Ottawa has all the problems of big cities with almost none of the advantages. It also has all the problems of small towns with none of the advantages. It is neither. The great Jimi Hendrix breezed into town for a couple of days during the late great ’68 and summed up Ottawa in his diary “… strange people”. Nuff said.”

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“I moved to Ottawa from Europe last August.

Even though I was born here, I can say that I think Ottawa sucks. Or perhaps it is more Ontario. Taxes are way to high and despite what people say, electricity is cheaper in Europe than here. 
We’ve decided to sell our house and leave this shit hole country, can’t wait to get back to the real world.”

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“… Does Ottawas suck? Ask my son who was born in Ottawa and is happy to be out of there.”

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“Ottawa is the worst city in all of Canada, maybe even north america! I stopped there early last year to see the canada day festivities. From the moment I got out of the car and started waliking around, people were the rudest, walking into you from across the sidewalk to like purposely hit you walking by. Everyone is cheap and not very social. Just stay in ottawa if you live there, don’t move there if you’re a nice person.”

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“Nearly 1/3 to 1/2 the population has a chip on their shoulder here. Ottawa is a car city. The ethos here is passive aggressive to hidden aggressive snotty.

Even in Montreal they are capable to say “excuse-me.”
The proper use and not abuse of the english language is to say “excuse me” not “sorry.”

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“I’ve been out of Ottawa for 6 months now. I AM IMMENSELY HAPPY! My son is eating again, has alllll kinds of friends and is CONSTANTLY outside playing.

To all those sluts and whores on the Stittsville Moms Facebook page who look as phony as a 3 dollar bill… keep your precious city and check your daughter’s drawers. She’s doing drugs and boys to numb her pain.”

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“Darnn … i used to live in BC and Calgary and i have never felt so depressed as right now. I wish i could turn back time and stay in either Calgary or BC instead of here …

Miss BC and Calgary badly”

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“Hey Everybody,

I came across this blog when I googled “why is ottawa so boring” after having a discussion with a friend about Ottawa. (on how really boring it is)
I am 33 years old. I was born and raised in Ottawa and now looking back I havent seen anything change in this city… 

They can’t even get the O-Train running. A simply east to west north to south route. If I were in charge I would hold an open competition to the 3 major schools in Ottawa (Ottawa U, Carleton and Algonquin) and have them design a system for the city. Who better to design it? They probably use it the most. The designs can be voted on by the people of Ottawa and problem solved. Seems to easy and good to be true. 


The nightlife in the city is dreadful. The only time it gets busy is when the students get back. Pretty embarrassing on the rest of us that live here. The Byward Market is boring and lackluster. The Bylaw officers are way to happy to hand out tickets to people just trying to make a living or just have a good time. The upscale restaurants that claim to have the best chefs and best food are terrible. But everybody is too afraid to say anything because they just want to be seen at “the hotspot of the month”. And yes every month there seems to be a new hot spot. But with the suburbs getting better restaurants and bars, the Market is loosing its appeal for people who live on the outskirts. 


The amount of rudeness in this city for such a small population is bonkers. Nobody says please or thank you. Its gotten to the point where I dont hold doors open for anybody anymore because nobody says thanks. People dont know how to drive in this city. However is teaching people to go 80km\hour in the left lane of the highway and not move when somebody is coming up at 100km\hour needs to stop doing that. 


People are not approachable and open here. I was born and rasied here and find that. Think of somebody that moves here from somewhere else. People judge and critise people here a lot. People are looked at strictly on the outer appearance. Thats why everybody looks the same here. Pure cookie cutter.. 


I know its a governement town, and everybody disappears after 7. But like an earlier comment i read, your salary can make or break your activities. I work for the governement and the majority of people dont make crazy amounts of money. If you are a single man or woman living in this city with a mortgage, bills and maybe a car payment, i’m guessing you are paycheck to paycheck. There is not a lot of room to play with after all of those things. God forbit you have an emergency like a car repair or a over inflated cell phone bill you just got after coming back from the states. The amount we pay for goods and services in Ottawa (and Ontario) is astronomical. But that discussion is for a whole new blog. 


The yearly “festivals and events” that everybody looks forward to are pretty much boring and the exact same every year. For example wine and food, hope volleyball, cheo bbq, bluesfest, greekfest and so on and so on. Its time we got something new, people set thier calenders to these events. LOL 


I’m pretty much ranting, but it feels good to know i’m not alone. But its unfortunate because these past few years, i have seen things getting worse. 

But the bottom line is you make the best of it. If people want to disappear at 7pm, doesnt mean you have to. If people drive like morons, drive the way you need to, to avoid them and get to your destination safe. If people are being rude, call them out on it. And give them a little taste of it back. You’ll be surprised how much better you feel.”

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“Ottawa should be the butt of alot of stand-up comedy, but the people here are so self-unaware or insecure that they either wouldn’t get it, or allow themselves to get it.

Great site though.”

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“Fuck this ugly piece of shit city. Moved here my stoney creek (near hamilton) and when my fucking apartment contract is up in september i’m gone and never looking back. Ottawa is filled with a bunch of arrogant and ignorant dickheads. What a dirty and smelly city, an embarrassment to be part of canada yet alone the nations capital. Hamilton is a steel town and still so much superior then this ghetto land, mind you the suburb I lived in IS nice. Fuck anyone who defends this lifeless cunt of a city. Day 1 of my move, ps3 stolen, shows the true character of everyday ottawans. I guess people here are too poor to buy their own, so steal someone elses on move in day, Nice!!! And for the record, I’m not from Toronto but have been there enough to know, toronto has always been better, will always be better and just is better then this mistake of a place.”

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“I moved here 10 years ago and for the first 4 years thought it was me. People looking away when you look up to say hello, not being able to merge onto a highway because cars don’t move over, being surprised in the food store when the lady stands there with her shopping cart expecting you to get out of her way instead of going around you, miserable customer service, frantic waves from drivers to proceed instead of a friendly nod, crappy restaurants, urban sprawl, non-existant architecture, U-turns at 4 way intersections. Tailgating, cigarette smoking contractor idiots hauling ass down the 174 making their way home to Rockland, ready to road rage any asshole that gets in their way, no quality, no class, just a backwater of comfortable civil service families of four dining out at Montana’s and getting a large double double on the way to their well paying, pension indexed government job that they hate.

So anyways, after 4 years I realized that it wasn’t just me and for the past six have just been putting up with it. But not in 2012 friends. I’m going back to Toronto, where it’s a hell of a lot friendlier, classier and better for business not to mention my psyche! Ottawa, keep your dweeb mayors, Lowell Green, million traffic lights, horrible French slang, dumpy market , over rated glebe first to the trough pension sucking tightass baby boomers who still work as consultants and go to the same goddam home show 3 times a year at the eyesore known as Frank Clair Stadium. As they say on Dragons Den….I’m out!”

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“It is true, Ottawa sucks. People are so uptight and awkward here. The majority of civil servants are lazy and have never worked in the real world. They are just waiting for their pension to kick in.”

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“It’s funny, I work on the phone with customers from all over north america and somebody called the other day and said, as many do, “where am I calling” and I said “Ottawa” and they replied “well, I’ll forgive you for that” and I laughed out loud…”

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“I mean smile for God’s sake, smile once and a while…look at the dang tulips or something, whatever is happening can’t be so bad that people are so misserable or out of it constantly.”

I’m afraid the problem runs a little deeper than smiling will fix (although it wouldn’t hurt). In the unauthorized history of Ottawa that I’m writing, I point out that the city was founded as an 19th century experiment on passive/aggressiveness that went awry. As generations of bureaucrats inbred, the sense of humour was eventually eliminated. And the simulacrum finally able to oust the authentic.”

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“Oh this is a great blog page. I was up this morning thinking about some of the truly weird and sometimes horrid people I met when I lived in Ottawa when I attended University there.

Some of the way people treat each other was just bizarre, mean spirited and awful.

My advice for those who read this is to leave for another city (any city) as fast as you can. If you must stay in Ottawa then I have some good advice. 

Make genuinely nice friends (they exist in every town and city). Surround yourself with positive vibes and people as much as possible. When you run into one of the many twits or assholes in Ottawa – keep running (as far away as you can). 


Do not attempt to fight fire with fire by engaging in some goffy one upmanship with a mean person who does something mean to you. Just walk away. If you can bring attention of their behavior to a supervisor (if someone is rude to you in a store for example) then by all means please do so. However do not be suprised if the supervisor is also an asshole and sides with the asshole working for him/her who was rude to you.

Basically just find good people in your life and just ignore the other morons if you can… and you should survive Ottawa.”

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“Hi Im canadian and I have lived in BC, Alberta, Toronto and also NB. I made the mistake of moving here 5 years ago. I am a single woman here and if your a single woman you are targeted all the time and people take advantage of you from government offices to workplaces to housing accommodations etc. I lost my ft job in 2008 and have not found much since. If your white and english no one wants to hire you. There are also alot of newcomers with attitudes, it seems half are sweethearts and the other half have a stinky attitude and dont like the canadian born pe ople. ONe of my friend’s who is half native has alot of issues here too because she is single. She also cant get into a government job. I always try to be a good person but it seems in this city people stick up for the bad guys and criminal types. Im hoping to be able to escape this hell hold of a city next month and I will never return here again even for a visit!! I also only like to hear english spoken on the buses but alot of people dont seem to care nowwadays.”

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“OC Transpo are a bunch of fucking goofs. Shitty Nightlife. Dirty Cops. Bad Food. The drivers are bad too the second a flake of snow hits the ground its like these idiots forget how to drive. The Hockey Team is absolute shit and I hate their fans. Overall Ottawa is not a city to be proud of.’


That best describes Ottawa. I have lived there for most of my life (I now reside in the United States) and living there was a nightmare. It’s boring beyond comprehension, life-less, expensive, soul-less and utterly depressing place. I actually feel sorry for people living in that hellhole. It’s especially horrid if you’re a young black man. 


I thought all of Canada was like Ottawa so I made a persistent effort to leave Canada altogether. I’m a young man with many talents and positive outlook on life and Ottawa was sucking the life out of me. They’re uncultured old people – the city is disproportionately populated by older generation whites who suffer mental problems and are incredibly miserable – who look forward to pension and retirement. Depression, alcoholism, drug use and social problems remain rampant in the nightmare called Ottawa. 


I now reside in the United States of America where I live with normal people. People that are actually receptive and capable of engaging in normal, fun activities and conversations. It actually took some time getting used to people that weren’t so cold, condescending and contemptuous for no apparent reason other than that they’re unhappy and possess an attitude of vengeful supremacy (to make themselves feel better and escape their unbearable “lives”).


Canada is a decaying country and it’s eating itself away from the inside. It’s becoming increasing unlivable, socially and economically, for an ever growing number of people-particularly the young.

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“Today The person in front of me stops at a green light to let out somebody from the passenger side. Nobody honks, not once. Then the woman gets out of the car and starts flipping a bird to everybody including myself and for what? Not honking? Not being ass holes? I don’t get it, what’s with the crazies. Nobody knew what the hell was going on. We’re all stopped at a green light being flipped off by somebody that looks perfectly well dressed and normal. I’m so confused LOL, not surprised…but very confused.”


I’ve had a similar experience (on multiple occasions); a woman was getting out of a car’s passenger side in the middle of the road. I politely waited and didn’t even look at her, let alone honk. Meanwhile the driver, also a lady, kept looking at me as though I eat babies! For being polite!? I don’t get it. So I’m left with amazement and bewilderment. 


In Ottawa you have to get used to abnormal behavior. It’s a very bizarre place. It’s like a horrible social experiment, a mental ward even. It stems from the general population’s social ineptitude associated with its deplorable cultural backwardness. Since it’s a socially dead city they don’t know how to behave much less socialize. The glaring lack of social evolution consequently rendered the city a harbinger of abnormal behavior. 

What’s considered normal is rarely seen in Ottawa…”

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“I hate living here. I want to move to Las Vegas, Nevada. Sure, Ottawa has strip clubs and casinos like Las Vegas but it doesn’t have enough entertainment, good weather, good food (though that’s improving) or excitement. When the time comes, I’ll pack my bags and at least winter in Vegas. Ottawa in the summer isn’t bad, though. In winter, it’s a nightmare.”

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“In Ottawa you have to get used to abnormal behavior. It’s a very bizarre place. It’s like a horrible social experiment, a mental ward even. It stems from the general population’s social ineptitude associated with its deplorable cultural backwardness. Since it’s a socially dead city they don’t know how to behave much less socialize.”


because it’s not an entrepreneurial city, people don’t develop certain skills. You’ll meet the same percentage of weirdos in other similar cities. (well, maybe not quite as high.)”

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“An immigrant’s experience in Canada:


The Canadian government solicits potential immigrants and dupes them into bringing their skills and money to Canada. It advertises the country to people from other countries, mainly for their money; each prospective economic immigrant has to bring with them minimum $10,000. It’s a scam but then again so is everything else in Canada. 


When the Canadian govt is engaged in such a scam you can only imagine the extent to which the average Canadian individual is also involved in a scam of their own to survive, everything from phoney govt jobs to independent immigration consultants. Every Canadian is involved in some kind of a scam. Fraud is a way of life in Canada and you have to do your part just to pay the bills to extortionist utility, rent, insurance companies, etc. If you come with the mentality – as immigrants erroneously do – that this is a developed country and expect an efficient and competent system you will be greatly mistaken: Malfeasance is the call of the day in Canada. 


Since the country’s economy largely depends on service, and Canada no longer a manufacturing country, the best show in town in terms of gainful employment is a govt job. That requires “networking” – code word for FAVORITISM in Canada – forget about best qualified person getting the job. In many respects Canada is a developing country. There’s a disconnect between the political class and the average person (which explains the immigration disaster, among other common fundamentally flawed and corrupt practices). 

Canadians are cold and standoffish. Nothing happens and everybody keeps it to themselves. It’s the most socially inept country in the world. Since it’s socially dead country one becomes accustomed to abnormal behavior. Canada lacks national identity and national culture. Subsequently everyone identifies with the country of their parents or great parents’ origin. Forget about assimilation and adapting to Canada, you cannot assimilate and adapt to an unreceptive environment. Consequently racial attitudes are behind 30-40 years, say the United States. Which is really unfortunate because the country’s population is aging at an incredible rate, and the average immigrant stays for a few years and eventually leaves. (40% of all immigrants to Canada at any given year leave so within a few years – Statscan.) To augment this the govt typically brings in even more people. There’s a continuous flow of “new” arrivals filling the position of those who have come and gone. 

Major cities, namely Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal, are decaying socially and economically. Heavy drinking, drug use and other social problems are rampant along with crumbling infrastructure. But people in Canada don’t discuss issues of national importance, they lack coherent objective national discourse. People complain and say what they think they’re supposed to say, or, more accurately, say what they think will make them sound smart. Whether inferiority complex or other social deformity, people in Canada dislike constructive criticism and altruism. They remain risk averse to a fault, so problems fester. Everyone simply prefers to pretend everything is nice and dandy.”

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“… So that’s it from someone who has lived here all their lives. “

The argument from authority in a blog like this is miserably out of place. I refer you to the concept of “Stockholm Syndrome”, named after a city almost as ‘vibrant’ as Ottawa.

Architecture? Do you really think people are coming from all over the world to Ottawa to study how we do architecture and urban planning? 

The city has had and will probably always will have a lack of imagination. It’s architecturally vapid – the downtown can best be thought of as supplying the reply “Who .. me?” to those in search of it. Then consider Carling Ave. between Lincoln Fields and Bayshore. How about putting that in a travel brochure? Or Merivale Road, anywhere? … The list of mind numbing stretches of eyesore are endless. 


As far as complaining about the hating on Ottawa, if anything, the complaining makes it slightly more tolerable. At least some humour can be generated to cover over the hot air and shredded paper which seem to be the major products of this small-minded over-grown hick town (albeit one with a high percentage of 110k earners).”

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“Ottawa’s people are very conservative. Any talk of building a highrise tower anywhere causes them to panic and go into a coronary. Being a government city, the downtown core is drab and boring. Developers quickly put up a building at low costs to make them competitive for government leasing contracts. Unfortunately, this has resulted in a very boring and flat downtown building architecture with no vibrancy and character. People in Ottawa accept mediocrity in most accepts. A skating rink is more important and will recieve more press as opposed to building something unique to give the city character. Sparks street, once a vibrant part of downtown is in ruins, yet is embarassingly advertised in travel brochures. Large trucks go through King Edward Ave. as a gateway to Gatineau, Quebec. Which downtown allows this? Those who think this is a beautiful city need to get out more often in my humble opinion to really understand what a beautiful city looks like.”

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“Well, it’s been 2 years since I left Ottawa. Never again will I move back there to live. I still have friends there, but this last trip at Christmas? They’re all falling apart. A friend picked a fight with her teen daughter in the restaurant we were having lunch in. My friend, who once was vibrant and full of life is no longer and another friend admitted to me she was bi-polar. Other friends are having trouble with their marriages and others are wanting to leave. Ottawa is poison – it really is.”

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“Now I am not going to pretend to make an unbiased assessment of Ottawa as I know that my life experience is colouring my perception of this city just like everyone else who has posted here. I really don’t think an unbiased assessment can be made when it comes to the overall experience of living in Ottawa. We could talk about hours of sunlight per year, ethnic diversity, green space, average levels of education, city planning, crime rates, cultural sites and entertainment venues per capita, or any other factor that would appear on paper to affect quality of life. I don’t want to discuss those things. We could take an opinion poll, but I don’t really care how many people are enjoying life in Ottawa. It doesn’t change the fact that I am not. I found this blog post by googling “ottawa sucks,” and honestly I was very relieved to find that I am not the only one who feels this way.


All I can say is that when I moved to Ottawa I became very depressed. I have been here for three years and I have had a harder time making genuine connections with people than anywhere else I have visited or lived. I once moved to a small town in B.C. by myself and I found people who were eager to accept and include me within months, not years. 


I do find that many people here seem unhappy and closed off. A previous post mentioned things like lack of eye contact with strangers, and not getting so much as a “thank you,” when you hold a door for someone. This has been my experience as well and I believe it is contributing to the sense of isolation that has been growing in me since I moved here. 

Something that made this phenomenon seem much more pronounced was a recent trip I took to the southern U.S. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not going to argue the superiority of American culture in its entirety over Canadian, or more specifically Ottawa culture. (I would never do that.) I will, however, point out that when I was down south I was really shocked by one major difference. When in a store, on a tour, or asking for directions, the people I spoke with made eye contact with me, smiled sincerely, asked questions, and went much further to assist me than I’m now used to. People expressed their opinions unapologetically and without hesitation, laughed out loud, joked with me, expressed concern, and acknowledged my humanity in a way that I didn’t even know I’d been missing.

Upon returning to Ottawa, the constricted way people interact became so blatantly obvious I could no longer ignore it. It seems as though people are so concerned about avoiding conflict or controversy that they stifle themselves. I’m not sure what the reason behind it is but it appears to me that people are uncomfortable in their own skin, uncomfortable with each other, and so inhibited that the possibility of connecting with others is almost completely off the table. 


I feel like an alien here. Not since I was a teenager have I been so self-conscious – never have I been so self-contained. I feel trapped, disconnected, desiccated. I want to leave.

Like many others I am here for work. Not my work – but my fiance’s work. My education goals have been put on hold by the prohibitively high tuition in this province. The only friends I have made are people who are struggling with mental or physical illness. I have been unable to find full time work, even in entry level positions. It seems every subway sandwich artist and his dog has a masters degree, making it impossible for me to compete on paper.

It is just downright depressing.

Yes I do think Ottawa is “pure garbage” as another poster chose to put it. I think this characterization makes sense given my experience here – and all the winterludes, museums, and maple syrup festivals you can throw at me won’t make up for it.

Hang in there, fellow Ottawa-haters. Know that you are not alone and that somewhere out there a place that feels like home is waiting for you.”

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“Having been born and lived my 26 years thus far in Ottawa, I can say I’ve seen a lot of the good and a lot of the bad that Ottawa has on offer.


I’ve travelled pretty extensively around North America, both Canada and the US and had a brief stint living in Kitchener-Waterloo. I’m going to be moving to San Francisco, and having just spent a week there becoming acclimatized, I noticed several distinct differences. 

Firstly, the people in Ottawa. Several people have mentioned that Ottawans are quite impersonal, cold, standoffish and socially awkward. I’m often guilty of this myself, and I’ve noticed it extensively with most people you’ll see everyday. I’ve tried a little social experiment a few times; try it next time you’re out for a walk in your neighbourhood: greet everyone you pass with eye contact and a “Good morning!” or “Hello!” and see the confused looks you receive in return. Sometimes you won’t even receive any acknowledgement whatsoever from passersby. I can’t think of one time that I’ve ever been greeted by anyone while out for a walk, or bike ride, very dehumanizing. 

One area where Ottawa is absolutely great compared to other similarly-sized cities is with outdoor recreation! If you like biking, hiking, paddling, swimming, skiing or really any other outdoor activity, Ottawa has lots of places to go and have fun outside. Gatineau Park is amazing, the Rideau Canal and River are great. Our recreational pathways and greenspace are easily accessible. Just be ready to do any of these activities by yourself, because trying to interact with people to find someone with common interests is difficult if not impossible. See above.


I think the thing that wears on folks the most though, is the can’t-do attitude that’s so prevalent in the city. Ever want to do anything cool, fun, inventive or interesting? While people were sure not to connect with you or recognize you as a fellow human before, if you mention wanting to do something outside of the normal day-to-day, you’ll find people lining up to tell you why you can’t, shouldn’t, and probably will fail. I think that’s the worst thing about this city, and it scales from the smallest of small scale things, all the way to the largest of large-scale things in the city. Why are there few Ottawa-based startup companies? Because we’re likely to fail. Why aren’t people more open and friendly? Because people aren’t likely to reciprocate. It makes people with hopes and dreams either leave or have them be crushed under the burden of self-doubt and helplessness that plague this place.”

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“Way too many cagey bureaucrat and secret police types. Not enough creatives. Plus a lot of people don’t know how to live in an urban environment.”

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“Ottawa, where between noon and 3pm on a sweltering 37c afternoon, you’ll see assholes out jogging…”

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“Well, it’s a small comfort to know I’m not alone. I find myself booking blog sites like this just to remind myself of that. And there are plenty, which says something. I’m not from Toronto, nor Montreal or Vancouver though I love each of those towns for their own reasons and also dislike a few things about each as well. I’m from Halifax and have my own love-hate relationship with that place too. And perhaps I’m a bit spoiled because I’ve had the opportunity to live in Paris, Edinburgh and Boston. But see, all those cities evoke at least some emotion in me -good and bad- whereas all Ottawa does is lower the heart rate to flatlining. It’s simply an incredibly dull and nava-lgazing town, surrounded by forgettable suburbs full of forgettable people and a downright depressing landscape. It looks like a giant Northern Reflections store about to go out of business.


I tried to come in on an upbeat note but when I told people that I had finally accepted a job here, they were all sorry for me. ALL of them. 


I’ve been ‘doing time’ here for 3 years and desperate to find a way out. Like many, I moved here for work (what else is there to do here?). I only hope I can take the experience and cash and make a run for it. It’s not like I didn’t know in advance about the place: I had family here for a long time (who also hated it) and I’ve had to come for work reasons many times over the years. I just managed to avoid the move before now, and I am still mad at myself for not aiming higher. This ain’t the end all and be all for me, though the local population seem to be curiously satisfied with it. I guess if your biggest aims in life are to get your kids on bilingual hockey teams, spend every Saturday x-country skiing in Gatineau Park, and discuss government job reclassifications over hot chocolate at family-oriented parties post-skiing…well, this is your town.


And don’t even get me started on the idiotic drivers, retarded cyclists and rude, sullen pedestrians. Don’t even start on that one…let’s just say I’ll trust a Parisian driver over an Ottawa-twit behind the wheel anytime.”

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“Ottawa is not a middle sized city people. Ottawa is considered the 4th biggest in the country and the most boring city in Canada”

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“Two words,

“Yo guy”

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“it’s just sooooo boring here.”

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“I just moved here recently from Vancouver. We moved here because my husband got a job and Vancouver was insanely expensive. After 1 1/2 month I had enough of Ottawa. While I have a good and transferable profession, have a provincial registration, after almost a year of looking for and applying for a position,I was totally ignored. No job.What I experienced here pretty similar to the previous posters. People are unfriendly, anal retentive, can not even handle a small joke, the service is low grade, the residential towers are frightening, the streets are dirty, buses are substandard.


I wonder if this town is full of Man In Black characters, outside humans, but inside only aliens. It is a very strange little town which is a disgrace to the whole nation. I was hoping I could start a new chapter of my life here, but I do not want to stay here any longer. Back on the West Coast ppl told me that moving here will be a big change for me, I just could not believe it. Now I know it not just believe it! It is worse that some of the cities behind the Iron Curtain! Where the hell did I end up? In Hell? In Hell!!!”

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“The bad driver aspect can’t be stressed enough. In Toronto, you put your turn signal on, and you damn well merge, because people recognize your situation, and allow you to do so. In Ottawa, “What? How dare they try to merge IN FRONT of me! What say we hold up traffic in protest? Yes, let’s. How dare that individual try to merge into MY lane, I will do my utmost to prevent them from performing such a belligerent act, and thus, accelerate directly into their blind spot.”

Goofs”

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“I moved from Montreal to Cornwall in 2008 and I have only good to say about Cornwall, super friendly, I was shocked to have people smile at me and say hello when walking in the park or on the street. Wow! I thoroughly enjoyed the two years that was there.I had plenty of friends and staff in stores were friendly plus I had everything I needed around me except for clothes shopping. Montreal was there for that, just as hour away. Sad to say, I moved to Ottawa for work. I made sure I had a job before I got here and was fortunate to get a work from home job.


It’s been 3 years now. I still have no friends, though I can’t say I’m depressed, I feel dead inside, not sad, just no fire. It took 2 years for someone to reply when I say hello in my apartment building. Asking for directions on the street seems to be a sin.As a Welcome Wagon representative I have a lot to do with business people and their receptionists, and boy oh boy talk about condescending. Many of them treat you like the help at the best and are most always very expedient. The welcoming smiles don’t last long in Ottawa before they want to see the back of you. At the beginning it made me really sad and I felt so isolated. I’ve gradually learned to go with the flow and do my own thing. There is nothing I’d like better than to go back to Cornwall, but now I had to quit my job because it was costing me more than I was making. Most jobs in Ottawa are sales, service or government, none of which fit my qualifications. So glad to see that I’m not alone, that helps.”

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“Truly unbelievably boring for a city this size. A remarkable achievement.”

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“I have lived in Ottawa my whole life, 26 years total. I am glad I there are more people out there who also hate this city. I am already looking to move away. This place is boring, expensive and less exciting by the day. Also be careful how you approach people or what kinda jokes you like to crack because everyone has to prove how tough they are in this town. I will be moving to the southern states, I don’t know if the rest of Canada is this bad but I am not risking it when everything is so much cheaper and taxes are way lower down there. I can do without the healthcare for now.”

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“While walking home from my job I had some loser heading-to-prison guy come up to me and belch in my face. Time to write a comment.


I have been living in Ottawa my whole life and happened to come across an amazing job by default. With only a couple of years until retirement I can’t wait to move away. 

Having travelled extensively throughout the world I can say that the rudeness here is incredible. Although people seem to be pointing to civil servant coldness as the brunt of this rudeness I believe that it is the drug addict/trailer park aspect of this city that contributes to its vulgarity. Mass transit is horrible. Taking the buss is hell. After a horrible incident with a bus driver in 2009 I still follow up on responses from the city/transit commission for a response knowing that I am never going to get one. My city alderman never responds to anything. Renegade cyclists feel free to drive down sidewalks threatening pedestrians. Walking down a street subjects you to verbal assaults by cars passing by on the street. I have walked down the street in my overrated neighbourhood of the Glebe and been unnecessarily accused of stalking by female pedestrians. And don’t get me started about the boogers on the washroom stalls… 

The market has become a cesspool of misery and drug addiction.”

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“It’s been a while since I’ve made a post here and I think for once I won’t make this too long winded. People will argue anyways, regardless of how well I make my point.

I’ve lived in Ottawa proper since 2007 and I gotta say, I’ve given it a good try. I’ve experienced the city in varying situations. Pre-college living downtown, post college living in Gatineau, and then in Aylmer, now in the upper class west end. I’ve experienced the city from varying points of view, in varying life situations, I have tried again and again to give this place a fair shake and I get mud in the face every time. Enough is enough. 

There is enough issues here to make it a very unpleasant place to live and I’ve boiled it down. A large % of the population seems to be passive aggressive, argumentative, void of personality, intimidated by the success of others, unsupportive, disengaged and generally unpleasant. The goal of many individuals seems to be outwardly focused on taking those around them down a notch rather than to exert the effort needed to advance themselves. 

I’m currently in the process of making solid plans to leave the city and move to a place with generally good karma and a population a little less butt hurt and a bit more introspective.

Expecting the response that not all cities are perfect, I can acknowledge that. It is true that no matter where you go there will be people that will cause problems and various other aggravations. However, you have to be able to judge the extent of this. Just as not all relationships are perfect, some are better than others, some are downright abusive. 

The “relationship” that I have had with the city of Ottawa is one that, if it were a romance, nobody would hesitate to recommend ending it. As a hometown, it is an unfit one with a heavy dose of psychological and verbal abuse, unrelenting and unprovoked. This place will drag you down on every level.”

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“I respect that some people may like Ottawa as they may have been born or raised here and this is their home or their personality is more appropriate for this city.


I can only speak of my experience and that of people based upon what I know of them and/or what they have told me: I have never come across such strange people in my life. I have used the term ‘weird’ myself to describe them. I have lived in several cities, different countries and no place is perfect but for me, Ottawa’s weaknesses or what I perceive to be weaknesses are too much for me. The people here in my opinion are socially stunted (I mean the people born and raised). They only have friends from their childhood and will not expand beyond those friends. Anyone else are strangers mostly. 


I cannot tell you how easy it was for me to make friends in other cities and when I came here, after a year, I started to think the problem was me. Somehow I had lost the ability to make friends but then I spoke to honestly 200 people over several years and everyone said the same thing: people here don’t make friends with you if you are not already within their circle of childhood friends. Every ‘normal’ person I have met have been from outside of Ottawa. I am not trying to be mean but by normal I mean, friendly, willing to open up and invite you in their lives.


I know countless people who left because they could not stand how unfriendly the city is. By unfriendly, I don’t mean rude. People are very polite but they will not go beyond a certain depth in their interactions with you. It seems to me that non-Ottawa people can live here for years and have zero friends born and raised here. I do believe that people are socially stunted. 


I am not trying to be vicious. It actually makes me sad to have to seen all this. There are good sides to the city but if you are social, friendly person, this is a very lonely place.”

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“This place is so lifeless they should send astronauts here to train for Mars landings.”

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“I came to Ottawa for university a couple of months ago and I have never been so sad in my life. Like most people here, I found this blog by googling “why ottawa sucks” . I find alot of citizens here defend the city to death but will not take the time to show people from other cities why Ottawa is suposedly so cool and quirky but unappreciated like they’re trying to keep the fun stuff to themselves or something. Anyways, I’m really releived that I found this blog because I’m feeling more and more like an alien in this very odd city”

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“It’s difficult to clearly define exactly why Ottawa sucks, but sucks it definitely does. All you have to do is leave Ottawa for a few days, get far enough away, then come back, and you’ll see it. The people have sort of a repressed, miserable quality.”

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“As a second generation Haitian Canadian, a large reason why I dislike this place is the lack of diversity. For a sizeable city with a significant amout of immigrants you would think that there would be an established community. But everytime I speak to a native Ottawa citizen about the lack of diversity they always respond with something like ” yeah but there’s a bunch of Africans and Lebanese people here”.

And that’s about it. Unlike Toronto where immigrants communities have estabilished a strong and for the most part, positive identiy in the city, here people just regard them a nuisance and every ethnic person gets lummped in one group and labelled immigrant. Although I was technically a minroity in Toronto, I never felt like one because each ethnic community had a presence. In Ottawa, I feel like a colour and it makes me feel small. I am by no means trying to antagonize white people but its pretty pathetic how little of a presence other ethnic groups have in this city”

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“Ottawa still sucks. Not only do we have bad winter weather, uneven summer weather and nothing to do outside of gambling at casinos but now Ottawa has a gun problem. It’s not even safe now. I’m stuck in this awful city while other people live in great towns like Calgary, Vancouver, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, San Diego, Sydney and even St. John’s, Newfoundland and Labrador. I blame it on the dorky mayor Jim Watson, French-Canadians and Queen Victoria.”

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“I grew up in Toronto and I’ve lived in Winnipeg, Vancouver and Yellowknife. I’ve now been in Ottawa for about three years and the amount of random nastiness I see day to day frankly blows my mind. I’m not saying that everyone in Ottawa are assholes but there certainly appears to be a disproportionately large number of them!”

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“I’ve travelled all over South America, Europe, USA & Canada.

I have lived in Peru., Miami, Texas, England & Sadly now live in SHITHOLE BORING Ottawa Ontario Capital city of SHIT.
I have had a very interesting happy enjoyable life everywhere but in shitty Ottawa should be renamed BORINGVILLE.
Ottawa SHITHOLE city is truly the place that fun forgot. Everything is truly BORING in Ottawa. If you want to die of boredom look at Ottawa. Look at the old People totally lonely and miserable at your shopping malls. Summers in Ottawa way to short , freezing miserable disgusting cold winters way too long. Ottawa truly sucks . People in Ottawa are IGNORANT losers all they talk about is beer drugs smoking or boring hockey lol . Ever heard of reading oh no not these Ottawa folk they are truly proud to be BORING & IGNORANT.
So if you are brainless go live in Boringville Ottawa you might actually enjoy it HAHAHA. Shopping Malls Restaurant & Sewage infested Rideau River which these fools call beaches & swim in it in summer DISGUSTING. I HATE Ottawa I cannot wait to get the hell out of this MISERABLE place. Don’t move to Ottawa you will HATE IT. Ottawa is the place you go to die of misery.”

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“Been here 16 months and will be leaving as soon as I can. Unfriendly people who are anti-social and rude. Most walk around with earbuds, texting and ignoring everything and everyone around and they must believe this is normal. Guess they found their own way of coping. I’m leaving before I turn into an Ottawa robot that only lives for a government job!”

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“The reason why Ottawa sucks so much is because everyone is sad to live there.

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“Immigrant Perspective: Ottawa is the rectum of the Canadian body. People there are mostly rednecks – lacking in culture, manners, finesse or even anything more than a blue-collar perspective. People are not only mean-looking but mean and look miserably unhappy. They are also incredibly boring. People will have nothing to do with you there based solely on your race. They are so prejudiced that they think that they know everything about you based on your appearance only. The attitudes are passive; parochial; backward; primitive almost. Ottawa is a Paradise for Losers. The standards for anything – e.g. food; medical care are abysmally low. The majority of people there are some slack-jawed public servants and their low standards/mediocrity are reflected everywhere. Yet, they all think that they are the greatest, when all they are is small fish in the big pond (rather morass) of Ottawa.

They have no idea how to undertake anything and achieve an outstanding result- only the barest minimum that is enough for them to get by, is the norm. If anyone tries to be excellent at anything, he/she is quickly worn down by envy, contempt and subtle forms of intimidation. The women are like rhinoceros – fat, ugly, aggressive, excessively competitive and will quickly stab you in the back if threatened by your success/characteristics. The weather alternates between violently cold and unbearably hot – it’s like being in hell or frozen hell. I would never in my life go back there.”

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“Martha, everything you said about Snottawa is pretty much spot on. I’m “from” Ottawa, and after living 8 years in Los Angeles, 3 years in Italy, 1 year in Boston, 1 year in Zurich, 2.5 years in Vancouver, 1 year in Toronto,coming back to Ottawa was awful,the people incredibly provincial and anal and uptight, like they have a pickle shoved up their backside,and all in all,just a soulless hicktown with a parliament…..glad I left again, it was the best decision I ever made.”

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“Ottawa is a provincial backwater town that thinks it’s big time. Do you ever hear people in London or Paris saying “let’s visit Ottawa! I hear it’s so beautiful this time of year!” No you don’t, because it is a squalid dump where no effort has been made other than to do the absolute minimum to exist. It is a perfect example of letting things rot and having to replace them (infrastructure) resulting in at least twice the expense.”

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“The people there are so fucking rude. Nobody talks to each other and everybody stares. fucking weirdest city I’ve been. By the way Ottawa…YOU FUCKING SUCK.”

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” Yes I 100% agree. I am here right now to change visas for work (An Australian living in New York) and I am both bored to death and sick of the people. They are seriously rude and I kept wondering why they were staring at me!!!!

Tonight I was bored to death, because I am on my own for this trip. I tried to make friends with the bar tender and he barely exchange three words with me. I thought it was very bizarre. Glad to hear it isn’t just me!!”

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“it’s like going 30 years back in time. The racial slurs and homophobia is out of control. You could even say it’s accepted. Everyone looks the same because their afraid to stand out at all because of the ridicule it brings. I left Ottawa at 18 and was away for 15 years. I came back to visit family for the summer and worked as a bartender in a VERY busy establishment. All the same shit as 15 years ago by the SAME people who are now 15 years older. Wearing the same ball caps and ponytails they did in high school. Still fighting people who THEY bumped into and spilt a tiny drop of their Molson Canadian.

I’ve lived and worked as a bartender in cities like Los Angeles, Sydney and Toronto. Ottawa is the most violent, ignorant stagnant town I have ever set foot in. This is not a one situation rant either. I saw this day in and day out at work and in the streets. I avoid answering if I am asked where I’m from and when I go back to visit my family I am in and out of town in a blink. My life began the moment I left that town. For those who want out…just leave. Don’t save a pile of money or pay off cars or any shit like that. Get your ass to a city with variety and different cultures. Bar and restaurant jobs are everywhere and they pay great. Ottawa has a way of squashing a dream before it even becomes a thought.

Since I’ve left I’ve recorded decent selling albums, travelled the world with new friends (hot girls included), did a few tv commercials, gone to great partys and just all around seen some cool shit and met cool people … So…those of you who love Ottawa..PLEASE STAY THERE. Don’t travel! Those who hate it…come on out and enjoy yourselves with the rest of us open minded, friendly, hospitable and encouraging folk in the big cities all over the world. We want the best for you and the more interesting things you do the more we raise our hands in excitement and cheer your ass on! For you older folks in Ottawa, I’m sorry your once beautiful magnetic town has been looted. Ottawa is not the way the rest of the world works and don’t ever listen to someone who says it is! GET OUT NOW!!”

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“I hate Ottawa because its soo unfriendly people are fake and slimy backstabbers, the jealousy is too much

Its not a place that wants you to grow and succeed in life but its a place that everybody wants to pull you down and wants you to be under them.No body is genuine and everybody stares, everything in this city is soo expensive”

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” Honestly i don’t think it’s only Ottawa that SUCKS but the ENTIRETY of Ontario… this place is a shithole!”

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“That last comment said everything. I have grown up in this town my entire life. My parents are always pressuring me to find a government job ( despite the fact I have two degrees and a masters) I can’t find anything. I went to Asia to teach for two years. It was amazing, I never felt depressed once or sad. I came back and went through another bout of depression before moving to London, UK. Once again, I felt much happier after a year there. Again, I find myself back in Ottawa trying to get a job to help message to move again back to Europe, this time Berlin. I had to cut off my Ottawa friends because all of them would bully me whenever I would complain about Ottawa.

I always thought I was the only one that felt like this, I always felt depressed and suicidal thinking about spending the rest of my youth in this town. There’s no culture, life, or decent thing going on here. I can’t even find a retail job here, it’s been six months. Ottawa is never going to change. I can leave as much but every time I return home it’s the same back waters hick town. Everyone wants to work for the government, buy a house in Barhaven and go to Mexico once a year thinking that’s ‘extoic’. Go fuck yourself Ottawa and the weird people that live here”

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“This is all true…I find it scary how there are no jobs here and everything is private sector. People go to school and get out,dont find a job for years and are working at Walmart…I find the youth unemployment rate extremely disturbing. In general, they have ridiculous expectations for jobs paying MINIMUM WAGE….people overqualified get shit jobs and people qualified dont even get a retail job. You literally might as well take your degree somewhere where they will acknowledge it and pay you good And not 40000 a year for some gay job and having to be bilingual and having experience What a fucking Joke.All of the people who talk shit about how great it is here and how the states suck are the ones booking a flight to florida every year because its sooooo GREAT right? The rest of them who think its the best place on earth have never even left the city and been somewhere else and probably dont even have a stamp in their passport…

FYI the states basically runs Canada and theyre gonna buy everything out if they want lol. What is sickening is how everything is so overpriced and people just follow pay out the ass for everything and appreciate everything LOLLL Insurance, Apartments, Houses, Living in general? You might as well move to Miami because OTTAWA IS MORE EXPENSIVE how the fuck does a condo in ottawa donwtown cost 800,000 when i can buy a condo in Miami for 500,000 on the beach and a house in florida for 200,000? a house in barrhaven cost 500,000 Like what the fuck. Everyone is getting robbed and not even knowing it, Im almost done my program and Im getting the fuck out of here.

People are anal and unpleasant, the rules are gay and they rob taxpayers to pay for Bi-Laws to walk around and ticket your car and come to your door when your get together is too loud. I got a ticket for going to britannia beach at 10 pm because im trespassing when the beach is closed…?? This place is a giant retirement home which I may add there are almost 40 of them in ottawa which is 10 times as many in Toronto. Its so dead, theres no exciting events, everyone just goes to work and then home, so strict and so regulated. roads are shit and theres not even a proper fucking transit system or rail system that even third world countries have. There are 5 days out of the year when it doesnt rain and there is actually sun and blue sky…..the rest is rain, 50 cm of snow, and -50 which North Pole doesnt even have.

This city has the WORST drivers I have ever seen I have almost been hit or killed on multiple occasions, they should stop worrying about people making noise after 10 pm and make a proper driving test or stop giving out licenses to kids who are 16 and have only been behind the wheel of a car on their xbox. The radio stations are as limited as everything else here in general, no variety, no taste, just monotomy.”

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 “All the 20 things about Ottawa are 100% true I couldn’t put it better myself. I’m glad tonsee that there are a few people left who are not in fucking denial. I did a degree in tourism just to get the hell out of here. I was 28 years old and felt like a 90 year old person living in a giant retirement home. If you hate it find a way to leave, I have. R.I.P Ottawa”

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“Oh boy oh boy oh boy. People are agreeing with me.

Ok, I’m just a fifteen years old, but I can already see how much ottawa (with a minor “o”) fucking sucks. It’s been half a year since I came here, and every day is as painfully boring and shitty as the others. I was raised in Quebec, where people you don’t know rush to you as soon as they see you to say hello and talk to you. Let’s just say that the shitville gave me a bad first impression. so far, for 6 godamn months, no one, and I mean it, NO one ever FUCKING said absolutely ANYTHING to me. Not even “hello”, not even “thanks”. It looks like I’m fucking invisible. The whole city is ugly and grey. Yeah, grey. The buildings are grey. The sky is grey. The snow is grey. The place fucking stinks. People don’t know how to drive, my dog was almost ran over 5 times! Seriously, if you EVER have to move to ottawa, especially if it’s against your will, fucking brace yourself.”

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 “Wow could not have put it better myself. Small town sensibility, cultural-social wasteland, it’s all true. I felt it since my first weeks in this city, and still several years later. It does not get better because it is not good.”

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“… Without being facetious, what Joe is doing is providing a valuable service to society at large. When you arrive to Ottawa, you go through a circle: first, you enjoy it for a brief week or two. After a while, you start noticing all the small and big soul-destroying things about it. Then you start blaming yourself for not trying enough, not giving this city a chance, etc, & ‘being the boring person’ yourself (the fave of our fellow Attawans). Only after several years of trying to give it a shot, you realize IT IS NOT YOU, it really, truly is the decrepit soul-sucking shithole called Ottawa. Joe’s posts are valuable because they help people”

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“Dilapidated, that’s the word I’ve been searching for for the 6 years I have lived here. Thank you, thank you, now I know what to call it!”

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  “LOL this is the most Ottawa-esque thing anyone has posted. Person googles “I hate Ottawa” get offended by content and leaves a passive-aggressive comment. WTF were you expecting to find here? Go back to calling by-law on children playing street hockey”

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“Hi. Your posts continue to provide me with much-needed support and the endorsement of my views of this place as an Attawa Shitizen. Last night I went to the Trailer Park Boys show at the NAC. I am well aware that “if you can’t stand the fire, get out of the kitchen” but even I was unprepared for the level of buffoonery and sluttery that only Attawans can provide. One girl went up on stage and repeatedly simulated a stripper and lapdance routine, which was met with howls of approval and baying from the crowd. The two hicks sitting in front of me kept standing up and waving their arms in the air – thereby restricting my view even though I paid the same price for my ticket as they did. Two goons who stood at the side throughout the show launched a barrage of profanity-laced abuse at the usher who tried to get them to sit down. The Redneck Convention was not in town – they own this shithole. More reasons to fear for humanity. Keep up the great work and thanks. I fully commiserate.”

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“I am asian 6’3 and I know I am not ordinary appearance. But the way ottawa people looking at me almost insulting, they have very limited minds and mentality of hicks country mid-west type. A lot of old people it’s like big retirement home… So many homeless people it’s crazy!!! Ottawa people very snobish I don’t know why, maybe because they never see anything else. Also lots of people coming to work here from shit wholes like new brunswick or nova scotia and they act themselves like new yorkers but in fact they just rednecks… no sense of fashion, luxury, and life in general…the mentality everything must be cheap and ugly although everything in ottawa very expensive….Ottawa people are goon… French are very nervous especially on the parking… Ottawa people treat immigrants like shit I wonder why they invite these people especially skilled one… My immigrants with university degrees working low payed part time jobs… free health, i was waiting for fucking doctor for 6 months they treat doctors like Gods though their skills much lower than in european doctors…one family doctor never even examine my body or done any analyzes he just done his conclusion on assumption which is non sense, and he was white canadian with 11 years degree and some experience..i don’t really know how this country still successfull if everything so low level must be some magic”

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  “I don’t agree that these comments could apply to any city. I have lived in Vancouver, Detroit, Philly, Toronto, NYC, London, Bangkok,part time in Paris and Hong Kong and now Ottawa. Some of your items are Ottawa spot on; the worst and rudest drivers anywhere,not even close. My car has been hit five times while standing still!!! It is the most boring place I have lived.An unfriendly cliquish city(but not the unfriendliest,Vancouver by a mile). 


Ottawalians are the country’s greatest busy bodies. Research published in the local paper found Ottawalians more likely than any other Canadians to snitch on neighbours re;by-law infractions(hanging laundry out, growing flowers too close to the curb, complaints about driving etc) The weather? That’s a personal preference. It took me six months but I grew to love the Bangkok weather. Compared to Bangkok Ottawa sucks.I found weather in Vancouver to be really unenjoyable. Six months of low gray overcast and rain. Then it clears up but summer never arrives.I mean the average temp in the summer is 22!! That is a nice spring day everywhere else. But is was the dreadful ‘winter months’ gray miserable really depressing that got to me. The lack of a proper hot summer only made it worse.


As far as people speaking another language goes well I guess I haven’t spent enough of my life in my mom’s basement to be bothered by the fact that not everyone speaks English so I can’t comment on that. However you would HATE Hong Kong and Bangkok because so many languages are spoken there. 


Sports teams?I mean who cares really. Across Canada the sports teams are all a joke. No Canadian team has won a major sports title in over a generation. Ottawallians do seem absurdly attached to their teams. i guess that is because a) there is nothing else to do b) their city is void of any real identity. At least when they lost the finals a few years back they didn’t throw a 3-years-old hissy tantrum and trash their city. 


The people here live with with the reality that almost all jobs are drone like, dead end lifeless crap civil servant jobs which seem to give them a sense of entitlement. 


The music scene sucks BIG TIME here. You are right no performer comes here except for festivals. Ottawallians flock to festivals in a sheep like fashion that is rather unique( and a bit frightening). However in Canada the only music scene that kept me happy was Toronto. I still travel 5 or 6 times a year there to see bands who don’t come to Montreal let alone Ottawa. London NYC and Paris were heaven that way. And it fairness to Ottawa the music scene in Vancouver and Montreal is rather pale as well. But nowhere near as bad as here!!

The restaurant scene is sorry in Ottawa. it has improved a lot but is still well behind any Canadian city I have lived in. There was a guy who set up and ran a fabulous restaurant in Ottawa , I mean fantastic. After five years he gave up , sold it and now sells street food in a van. That is Ottawa food tastes in a nut shell. 

There is almost no cultural diversity. Chinatown is the size of a postage stamp. Little Italy is just that, little and there is nothing else.Very little arts scene in Ottawa. Yes the National Gallery is very good and often has great exhibits; Monet at present, Dore, van Gogh and Caravaggio in the past few years and of course a great Canadian collection. But it is the nation’s national gallery so of course it is good. 


There are some nice park land areas. the Gatineau Hills are very lovely at certain times. But Ottawa has nothing compared to Stanley Park, Central Park or Toronto’s Rouge Valley Conservation Park. (the largest nature park within a core of a metropolitan area in North America). 


At least it’s very safe, not Detroit NYC or Vancouver’s Eastside

While some of your comments might apply to any city much of what you say is true.

Ottawa and Ottawallians are the clear front runners at the bottom of the pile, a good bit worse than runner up Vancouver. My top; Paris(duh)NYC Bangkok Toronto”

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“I just wanted to say that I am a huge fan of this blog. You are doing a great thing. I lived in Ottawa for many years and it almost killed me. Please keep this up as I know for a fact that you bring a lot of smiles to a lot of miserable people wanting to break free of the miserable capital. God bless you in your efforts with this blog”

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“A sentiment many posters have already raised but I want to express my own appreciation for: thank you for this website. The solidarity we share in our contempt for the Ottawa is, conversely, really positive for many of us who feel or felt isolated. The city and its miserable residents will break your spirit, leaving you feeling self-conscious and lonely. But don’t worry like-minded reader, its not just you who feels this way”

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“Awesome list; made me chuckle a few times! Knew it was gonna be a good read when you touched on the staring in point #1. Its like prison inmates sizing each other up but in Ottawa its born out of conceited arrogance, not intimidation. I had the misfortune of living there for over ten years and it is indeed full of unfulfilled, self-involved bureaucrats. A total cultural/social wasteland with terrible public transportation! Its residents love to gloat about their home being a metropolitan national capital yet are flabbergasted and routinely revert to small town sensibility on issues such as transit, infrastructure, crime, employment, development, etc. that every part of city-life everywhere. Don’t even vacation there–you’ll run out of things to do on day three”

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“Ive said all these things in public and agree with the improving Ottawa article 100 percent. Ive lived in BORINGVILLE Ottawa for 13 years. I am saving so I can take my book collection via shipping and buy myself an airline ticket back home. I have travelled all over the place USA Europe Canada Southamerica and Ive never encountered such a god awful place as Ottawa. I cant eait to get out of here and if I never see this forsaken place again I will be truly the happiest man in the world”

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  “Been here 16 months and find it the most unfriendly city I have ever lived in. Superficial people who act friendly if they think you can benefit them, but have yet to have one person follow through on “keeping in touch” or being friends. It’s all about government jobs and money and not about people. I’m leaving as soon as I can before I suffer from permanent depression from becoming like them”

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“I was there for 2 weeks and I HATED IT!! I was so glad to leave. This list is legit. I am American, and I never felt so discriminated visiting this place in all my life. The people were beyond rude and would stair or make rude blatant comments to your face. And let me tell you.. If they were in NYC or any other place in the U.S. I could guarantee most of these people would see the front of someone’s fist.

The French speaking people in retail stores acted like I was a pariah and like I was an idiot for not speaking French. Yup, that was my shopping experience-in Ottawa. I laugh because a guy commented the city looks like war-torn Afganastan. I thought the same thing.. only Russia! When I watched tv, the news media seemed to constantly compare Canadians and Americans. Like they hate us. I didn’t get it. But the stuff they would say, and in the manner and tone was like straight up blatant disdain. I couldn’t wait to get out of there! It put a bad taste in my mouth for Canadians and Canada in general. Honestly.. I have NEVER met more rude and miserable people like I did when visited Ottawa.”

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  “Really dull city. You can line up in any line…restaurant, movie…etc. and nobody will initiate conversation with you. Walk down the street, nobody makes eye contact. A civil servant town where people carry that attitude in their private lives. The greatest thing about Ottawa are the highways leading away from it”

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 “Again, Mr, Beaver, you nailed it! Cheating on your spouse isn’t bad enough for these IDIOTS, they have to display it on a website. Everything written on the web is permanent, deleted or not, PERIOD. Karma is a bitch, F them all….. “So I’ve known for awhile that Ottawa is full of self-entitled scumbags, selfish assholes and cheaters.” Join the club! “They are delusional and beyond help” yes… YEEESSSS! People are sooooo lazy, they would rather connect thru a website than meeting face to face, pathetic. All the while, leaving their information behind on the web to be hacked and divulged. GOOD FOR THEM!!!!! No wonder it’s so lonely here, everyone meets online. No more casual conversations, no eye contact, please…..that’s sooooo creepy. Attawa is the scumbag capital of Canada. 


Manipulators, liars, users, petty, superficial and soooo easily scared. Attawa is not only the city that fun forgot. It’s the city where COURAGE came to die. You, Mr. Beaver, give me the strength to go on in this shithole!


You are probably the last decent person left in this JOKE of a national capital.

Take care and keep this blog going…..Please.
Oh, and try to have a good one……somehow :-)”

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  “I have been in Ottawa for almost 10 years. Even with a “government job” (those of us on the inside call it “public service”), this is a deeply boring, uninspiring place to live. I don’t drive due to a health issue, so every day I have to take some dirty bus across the decrepit downtown. It goes by Parliament Hill and I feel SO bad for the 15-30 tourists with their cameras. They are probably thinking this place sucks. And if I want to try out a new restaurant or visit friends, it takes forever to get there because of the terrible urban sprawl. It ends up isolating people and limiting their exposure to whatever part of town they inhabit. Seriously, City of Ottawa, just build the damn light rail system already.”

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“Thank you so much for your blog. Every time I start questioning my mental health in living in Ottawa I read your posts and feel so much better. It’s NOT just me. I am not alone in hating this town. Ottawa is possibly the worst thing that has ever happened to Canada, and having spent time in Winterpeg in January, that’s really saying something. I can not wait to get out of here, and based on the comment above, I understand that you are getting out. Lucky you”

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“Thank you for all your comments,they provide a gloomy comfort-confirmation as I am stuck here,for now.Worst place (people,culture,climate) that I have ever lived( and Ottawa is not a big city…not even near..maybe middle ,but only by Canadian standards, a country that has a lower population than the state of California)I actually enjoy super hot summers , and now summer seemd to have been cancelled,for the second year running,as well. “At least its better than Afghanistan” is a standard Ottawa defensive response.Okay, New York State -and the US border…. is less than a two hour drive south away, but the only place wherein Ottawa compares favorably is war-torn ,terrorist -ridden Afganistan? That says it all.”

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“I couldn’t have put together a better list. What I would add though, and I think it’s probably the biggest problem is Ottawa is the following: Smug people who have no clue how mediocre/shitty Ottawa really is (or they’re in denial). I don’t think you can overemphasize #17, how ugly the city really is. New neighborhoods are low-end construction with houses featuring weeds instead of front yards, new overhead hydro wires, vinyl siding, asphalt driveways, no trees, etc. Few people takes care of their properties, probably because it’s either frozen outside or a Mississippi swamp during the summer and unbearable. Finally, the lack of ambition is mind numbing. This permeates all aspects of life in Ottawa, from municipal paralysis to a ‘can’t-do’ attitude in all areas of private life. I consider myself so fortunate to have taken the opportunity to leave this hell hole.”

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“Ottawa has to be one of the boring cities in Canada. In general, people are cold and incredibly dull.”

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“yeeeesss, attawa is a retarded town!

Vancouver not only has lounges but also sells to license holders
without any problems from police or city officials ; they have other
priorities…..not in attawa though, they enjoy harrassing pot smokers!
binge drinking, steroid and cocaine consumption is rampant within
the ottawa police force but smoking a joint in designated areas,
that’s a real crime. What a bunch of IDIOTS!
Attawa really is a backward town!”

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“I agree with the first commenter. Ottawa is a very boring and depressing city indeed. I think this is due to the climate, geography and the fact that it is a government town. The down town is sad and dilapidated, overpriced and dull. It is also devoid of character and culture. Suit up, clone in or get out!”

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“All of the above 20 reasons are highly accurate! My husband and I are from Montreal originally, and I’ve lived and traveled outside of Montreal and Ottawa, and Ottawa is indeed a dump!!! After a few years of being shit on by government workers at work, as a security guard, and super-rude citizens in general, we are happy to be leaving. My husband found a decent job at a crown corporation, but even he says people here are rude and self-centered. (All I could find was security jobs as alot of job ads promising full-time work here are not really at all. Job fairs here pretend to be hiring, but expect the moon and the stars for min. wage jobs with no guaranteed hours, so you can’t support yourself. If you’re not a friend or dumb-ass relative of a government worker, you’re screwed. That’s why most job fairs or ads are scams here; they already know they will be hiring their buddy, so they make job criteria i,impossible to fulfill. Expect to see just fat, lazy government workers boozing it up, because besides hockey, pubs are all they have).”

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“YEAH…..OTTAWA SUCKS….BIG TIME…… no way to meet women…. dead after 11pm god this town blows…… people do drive like idiots here…stuck in their little world…. “

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  “I am not from Ottawa but have lived here for 5+ years on and off. I am Canadian. I thought it was just me,but your right about the people. I find it very odd that people can be so cold and not bother with you just because you are not from here, or you are out of work or don’t have an overpaid government job (people who work at hardly working). I had a few of them say they only invite someone to dinner if that person did a favour for them! I never heard of such a thing.”

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  “they by laws, gross unattractive people who act confident with nothing to back it up, unnaturally strange behaviour, kindergarten mentality on the road, dog shit every where because everyone is too entitled to pick up shit. People who talk in clipped tones (accompanied often with spit) or people who converse in obscure Canadian accent hybrid (yo guy, eyh watsup gouy) fun times. + psycho bus drivers”

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  “Hello. I absolutely adore your blog. Adore. I moved from a hellish 20 years in the city of strange, antisocial sucks and I am ecstatic being in civilisation again. My father moved to Ottawa when I was 9 from the GTA an right away, the pudgy, pinched faced kids who told on me at every opportunity made me so unhappy and miss the more civil behaviours of southern Ontario. My experiences since then consist of people deliberately endangering their lives in traffic ‘because I had the right of way’ trying to control every aspect of their neighbour’s lives, exhibiting the rudest behaviour possible and attempting to pass of ignorance and cuntyness of as sophistication.. they love honda civics and have never heard of Hermes. I feel for y family remaining there.

My mother, who is ill, poor and lives alone presently has little joy in he rife, her uptight decided she was having to much fun feeding the squirrels, his crotchety complaints resulted in a memo (they LOVE those) warning people not feed the squirrels, because it leaves too many shells on the ground. These people would not understand quality of life, the value of a dollar or the basic rules of civility if all three jumped up and bit them in the anal retentive collective behinds. I am so, so, sooo happy to be out of that hellhole. People think TO is bad? HAHAHA..no.
Simply put, Ottawa is a stupid contest, and -everyone- is winning.
ps. you really, really suck Ottawa.”

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  “OTTAWA IS A SHIT HOLE – that’s how i found this blog. the people here are bland boring rubes. idiots with no sense of humor. But what is the most annoying thing about Attawans is they feel threatened by the most inane things, they have such a victim mentality….it’s like they all have battered woman syndrome. Honesty scares the shit out of them and it’s tragically unfunny. I live in Kanata and holy f–k!!! Talk about boring!!! I’ve worked close to the Canadian Tire Center for almost 6 years now… Well I still attract police attention, just this afternoon upon coming to work, there was a cruiser waiting in the parking lot and as soon as he saw me, he took off. It was a black police member (you know, one of the 28 working in the organization). In Attawa, they have a subtle way of saying that you are not wanted in the neighborhood, they feel entitled to ostracize people and, in their view, provoke an incident that requires a violent response ATTAWA POLICE ARE PENISES !


Since the police in this town are discreet white supremacist, black police members are forced to act as “uncle toms” ; serving their white masters or else be crucified in the media like Const. Jason Mallett who was a community minded member of police unlike his white counter parts or the suicide of Sgt Ghadban another non-white member of Attawa police. Police in Attawa will harass, threatened, charge and ultimately murder the members that
doesn’t fit the mold of white supremacy. I will mention that Sgt, Ghadban committed suicide in his office at HQ. Get the message? Any excuse is used for walking around with assault rifles bought with OUR MONEY!!!

I was searched on 29th of Sept. 2013 for dubious reasons, no charges.

When walking to and from work, I’d get almost run over by police “cruisers”.

On 24th Dec. 2013, a white pick-up truck aimed for me while biking back home from work at 01:15 AM and when I took the same way to commute back to work on the same day 11:30 AM, the same pick-up was waiting for me at the Esso gas station on Edgewater street. Attawa police are murderers!

PLAIN AND SIMPLE! Just looking for a reason to assault honest, working
individuals with no criminal past, mind you. F.U. OTTAWA! 

TANGER MALL SHOOTERS ARE STILL AT LARGE!

INCOMPETENT BUNCH OF OVERPAID RACISTS, ANTI-FRENCH ASSHOLES.

Happy new year, Attawa and F–K YOU!”

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  “1965 anyone…… oh and since the O-Train is as useless as it can be, maybe the city will build a monorail to nowhere…..with that song blaring on the speakers! dullard attawans will clap and cheer, throwing their money in the wind, making it rain, as the saying goes. Veni Vidi Vici…..TABARNAK!!!”

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“Indeed friend, Attawa is a piece of shit place to live….. Not only full of wannabe tough guys or hoodlums ( I mean come on, right….Get a grip Attawa…..this isn’t Chicago) The cops here are ridiculously over paid, harassing and covert white supremacist! (2% are non caucasian out of a 1400 strong work force) APPALLING!!!! With this ‘Mall Shooting Incident’ we will now be treated to a parade of ‘gym rats’ in uniform sporting AR-15s….Why the long face, sir? Isn’t this the wet dream or fantasy come true! Playing make believe GHETTO USA on the tax payer’s wallet! ATTAWA SUCKS BALLS—–PERIOD!”

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“I absolutely love this post! I consider myself an open minded type and it is a dreadful, dreary, place to live. I’ve been living in Attawa since sept.1988. The city has changed tremendously since then. It used to be homely, comfy and service oriented as far as public insttitutions went. Now……It’s snobby, indifferent, cold and heavily prejudiced. SHAME SHAME SHAME on Attawans! The vast majority of friends and accointances are from outside the country or grew up outside this city. Attawans have the worst sense of perspective EVAAR. They are so intitled and self absorbed. I just wish I could afford to get the “F” outta here 4ever. THANX FOR THE POST—–RIGHT ON THE MONEY… and BTW, there is NOTHING wrong with grabbing a beer on a wednesday. Some of us actually work with a schedule outside of the monday to friday, 9 to 5 standard.”

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“Thank you for your contributions to the sanity of the remaining non-lobotomized population of this wretched city. I wish you all the best in your attempts to extricate yourself from this miserable excuse for a “capital” of a first-world country”

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“I could have written your block entry yesterday. I had major stare down by loser at my dentist office in the split second between coming into the office and taking my snow boots off. Dirty look at staring at my boots. What a creep. Then I drive down Merivale and cars turning left onto Merivale are blocking the entire lane of oncoming traffic since they’re pulling out into the intersection too late and traffic’s not moving (why one earth people have to drive 20kph on Merivale I will never understand). A light after light is missed due to this conduct, no one honks, nothing. If you honk at illegal behaviour in Ottawa, YOU are the aggressor. I hate this place so much and I’m counting down the days”

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“Great column! The driving has always been atrocious here. The locals used to use Carling Ave. as a drag-racing venue back in the sixties. Because, using a main drag where pedestrians could be put in harm’s way, was, apparently, the logical and fun thing to do. And also, showing one’s ignorance in dramatic fashion is a sort of rite-of-passage, here. So goes the well-known adage goes, “you can take the Ottawan out of the sticks, but you can never get the sticks completely out of the Ottawan.”

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“I lived in Ottawa a few years…hated every second of it and got the heck out. Not just Ottawa…I got out of Ontario/Quebec. What a dump. Worst weather imaginable and no ocean, waves, mountains, beaches. Everything in that region is so lame. I cannot stress how much I loathe the weather and geography in that part of North America. And the way the French bully English speakers is appalling. Only regret is not leaving sooner. Ottawa is just a sawmill town that won the lottery. Nothing there but French speaking government drones, dumb immigrants, and even dumber Anglos, too stupid to move West”

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  “I’ve lived here going on four years and have tried my best to make it work. The fact is I like the city less every day. Ottawa boosters sadly believe that their provincial backwater is a major city. It is not. Here is the impression of someone from coastal BC who has also lived in Washington State, California and Québec (Montréal):

– Ugly downtown streets: Either chocked full of aggressive busses and white trash smokers during the day, or depressingly vacant at night. No (or few) street trees

– Bleak neighborhoods with low property-maintenance standards; even expensive Glebe homes need significant reno work. New homes are cheaply built with vinyl siding and asphalt driveways (and no trees). Old ones if renovated are done on a shoe-string budget and look cheap. Horrible landscaping.

-Bizarre driving habits–people thinking nothing of blocking major roads to selfishly make left turns, refusing to pull into intersections when waiting to turn left (meanwhile making other cars miss lights), and suddenly finding the gas pedal in major neighbourhoods and blowing through despite pedestrians including elderly, children, and pets. Real asshole mentality.

– Constant raving amongst urban “elite” about overpriced and extremely mediocre restaurants. Best restaurants are in the suburbs.


-Deeply-ingrained municipal “can’t do” attitude. Corrupt municipality. Absence of community police. 


– Pathetic signature university – OttawaU – where bilingualism trumps academic merit. Much like public service approach to bilingualism. 


-Decades behind on public transport. 


-Much more horrible climate than locals will admit. There are many better climates within Canada. 


-Knee-jerk anti-Americanism, yet ask a local when they were last in Vermont (so close by) and they’ll tell you they’ve never been! 


-Sparks Street speaks to the lack of ambition and imagination in this city.


-Outside the Rideau Centre is truly third-world. I won’t go there and wonder what Nordstrom was thinking (even though I’m thrilled they’re willing to give Ottawa a shot). 


-Anyone who is dynamic is planning their exit strategy. Only true losers or those with family also trapped in Ottawa want to live their after retirement.”

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  “Born and raised here in Ottawa, did what many do, got a decent degree, got a gov job, a wife and kid and a house in the berbs. Travelled abroad a few years ago with my wife, saw life outside and thought Ottawa oh hell North America in general sucks. Been overseas yearly since then sometimes with my wife other times by myself just cause I cannot stand to not atleast experience a better life even if only for a couple of weeks. Why dont I leave, well the hardest part is giving up a gov job. The pension is only a few years away, once it does, I am gone within a few days of it kicking in. Done with Ottawa forever aside from a few visits to family that will sadly remain here. To those locals who love this city, great good for you, but try travelling and staying in a few cities overseas and try living life as a local and you will never want to set foot in Ottawa again. I found heaven in Italy, and if all goes to plan, it will soon be a reality and Ottawa will be a memory that I used as a means to get where I really wanted.”

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“A friend of mine who worked with street kids said that the Ottawa version were well-known as being far more violent than the Toronto or Montreal ones. When we first moved here a few decades back, I was shocked to see that there were hundreds, if not thousands of guys like the angry fellow in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNE6cub4v74 A few decades later and things have improved (believe it or not) but there’s still a lot of angry, barely civilized people in this city. Part of the culture, especially among the ‘locals’ is stuck back when they built the canal under poor working conditions and feigning being a tough guy was the best you could hope for. There are still people here who are about as anti-union as you can find anywhere in the world. Things are improving, but according to Ottawa time – very very slowly”

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“Sweet fucking god please get me the fuck out of this hell hole this year before I stab my eyes out with a fork and then slit my own throat to escape” THAT was my daily prayer (actually I no longer pray since I gave up on my faith while in that HELL HOLE!) while I still lived there. I have made my life’s work to leave, there was no alternative, I was basically willing to work hard and do WHATEVER it takes to leave Can-nada. Now I live in the United States of America. Yes, there is LIFE here. Enough said”

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“I have lived in that hellhole for twenty years! I basically grew up in Ottawa, and as a none white person it was nothing short of living a nightmare. I truly sympathize with anybody living in that horrible place. Ottawa is like a horrible-time-wrap-experiment gone wrong, from the 1970s. I now reside in the United States of America, yes, I waited my time and quietly left that hellhole. And the difference for me is life and death. I left to save my sanity”

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Every single comment so very on the money about Ottawa . I am so relieved I am NOT alone in my perception of this horrible city .”

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“Could not agree more with every comment on here. Glad I’m also not the only one!

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“I totally agree.

I am out of this SHITHOLE as soon as I am able to.
I HATE Ottawa , its the place you go to die.
Ottawa should be renamed BORINGVILLE .
I’ve sadly lived in SHITHOLE Ottawa for 13 years.
Never met such People as the People who live in Ottawa.
Conversation topics = beer hockey beer hockey or weather . Damm don’t these People read? 
Maybe they should read Noam Chomsky, Freud, Yukio Mishima, John Pilger, WB Yeats, Francis King, Aleister Crowley, Colin Wilson etc.
Would give them something a little bit more interesting to talk about, oh I forgot they only like beer hockey and shitty weather LOL.

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“Crappy and expensive restaurants and pubs for food. The only place I like and really like is The Prescott!

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“Thank God! It’s not me. I don’t have a “bad attitude”. My husband has lived all over the world and came here for ( drumroll…) WORK. My grandfather came here for… work. My father came here as he was fleeing a dictatorship. He thinks it’s fantastic! I don’t! I hate it here. I’ve been stuck in this hell hole for 43 years. People stay here because of golden handcuffs. The “Ottawa Allowance” or ” Northern Allowance ” paid by employers so you will fritter away the best years of your life in an intolerable climate, with equally cold people, depressing streetscapes and architecture and now…. expensive taxes and housing, too? Thank God, we all have our EU Citizenship. We are out of here. Time is the real commodity, people… not money.

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“It is good to find this blog and to know I am not alone in my dislike of Ottawa. It’s sad to think that a blog must exist just to help people survive this wasteland. I have been here almost 3 years and I am so happy to be leaving in a couple of months. I too have lived in several countries and other parts of Canada. Ottawa is a soul destroying place full of narrow minded people with a strange sense of entitlement. Don’t make jokes they have no sense of humor and will look at you blankly or be offended. There is absolutely NO culture or creative vibe here. It is a completely risk adverse place where independent thinking is frowned upon. I’ll be burning rubber out of here soon never to return.

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“You are sooooooooooooooo lucky to get out of shithole Ottawa. I am saving up so I too can get out of shithole Ottawa. Living in this boring city is truly a NIGHTMARE.

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“Every time I have to come back to Ottawa from vacation I cry. I hate Ottawa. I moved to Toronto but I have to go back to Ottawa because of family and I just want to die after 2 days of being back. It’s SO DEPRESSING. Everyone’s so by the book. All work, no play, no fun, no life. No wonder I started travelling young!

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“These comments are hilarious. So accurate. I have been in every small or big town in Ontario and Ottawa is by far the worst, maybe other than London or Windsor…sorry guys. I have lived here my whole life and it is a city that breeds unhappy people. no one is open to change, or give people chances. you want an entry level job? sorry man you need two years experience. uhhh what the fuck? the whole mentality is this pompous elitist entitled fuckery where no one is good enough but everyone is better than the rest. makes sense right? 


coldest, rudest place to interact with humans. my lovely girlfriend moved here to be with me and quickly learned that the peopel here are just awful. dont even try to have a conversation with someone or ask for help at a store. i wont even start on how fake the poeple here are, do we have to make links about the whole fucking ashleymadison.com ordeal? cause ottawa had the highest sign up rate on earth.


want to use public transit? be prepared to shell out AT LEAST 2000 dollars per year, not including the INSANE amount of time you have just spent attempting to use said transit. tip: buy a piece of shit car and save yourself an average 10-15 hours a week of bussing in good weather. apartments are insanely expensive and most landlords are scum bags. ive had two rent deposits stolen after being told i was accepted and then fucked over. 


this is the scary part:

the average apartment in ottawa costs just under 1000 dollars per month for a one bedroom, not including utilities or bills. 
In order to be considered as an acceptable applicant, one must have an income that is over three times their annual rent value. ie: your rent is 1000 dollars per month, you need to make 36,000 dollars per year to be considered for your shit ass, smelly, poorly kept apartment. WHAT THE FUCK. 

Minimum wage here is under 12.00 and you can stop kidding yourself if you think youre getting anything more than that here if you dont have a university degree in government fucking ass licking, let alone find a job in the first place. this city has the highest unemployment rate its ever had! 


but of course none of this can be addressed because then it would be real and the city would have to do something about it. save yourselves children. go to school somewhere else, go live somewhere else. this world is too big to sit and live in a dreary, unhappy city.

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“OMG, what a relief to see SO many people hating Ottawa! I just returned to Montreal from Ottawa. WORST city everrrrr!! The bars sucks, people seems to have a stick up their asses. Everyone seems to be LOVING “the market”, which completely sucked balls too. I went to the Rockcliffe Boathouse Marina – a BUNCH a snobby peeps, wannabes, food was disgusting too!! No cultural diversities much as well! I thought Ottawa would be better than Toronto, now, I know that TO is def better than Ottawa!! Will probably never go back to this city!

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“Yep, this city is trash and so are the people who live here. I’m a gay dude, average looking at best. I can’t walk anywhere without being psychotically stared at/called a faggot/threatened with violence all over minding my business. Fucking warped and morbid values people have here. Extremely superficial and lacking in human decency. I’m always confused when on the rare occasion I’m met with kindness from a stranger.

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“Yes anon is sooooo right…a boring politically correct, unimaginative rat hole! Transit station elevators always out of service, smelling of shit and urine. Buses always late. A mayor who never rides the buses but who constantly spouts politically correct jibberish about how things will be so much better when (and if) the lrt is built….no spaces for public music or entertainment…everything revolves around the federal government…no industry…a giant golf course with nanny state twerps shouting orders on transit public address systems..almost orwellian in its cold, calculating monotony…the poor are simply ignored…bmws mercedes benz and other high priced vehicles racing around the streets at top speed without regard for pedestrian safety..any self-respecting person would be well advised to leave this shit hole..for good!

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“Have lived here for 35 years of my life. Have visited Calgary, Banff, Montreal, Toronto, Baltimore, New York/Brooklyn, and Florida. Ottawa is by far the coldest, rudest, most stuck up place of them all. I can always tell a newcomer or tourist just by how friendly or outgoing they are in public. Growing up in the 80s and 90s, it was a boring, bland government town, but seemed cleaner, safer and had decent city services. Now its a boring, bland government town that is dirty, unsafe, full of gang activity, swarmings, shootings…Herongate, South Keys, and Bayshore are basically ghettos. And the Byward Market is overrated.

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Quotes from: 
https://ihateottawa.blogspot.ca/2014/04/rants-about-ottawa-ot-beige.html
http://ottawabeige.blogspot.ca/2007/11/why-ottawa-sucks-and-also-why-it-doesnt.html

Typical Ottawa: lousy Senators/ bragging about being in the capital city/ obligatory filming of down town (since the rest is too ugly)/ promoting the dump/ lying about it being safe and affordable/ very honk.

Saskatchewan: RANTS

Here are the comments of people who’ve had to endure the god-forsaken frozen flat wasteland that is Saskatchewan. You thought Canada was bad? If Saskatchewan isn’t the epitome of Canada, I don’t know what is!



“I have a dislike for Saskatchewan, too, but for rather different reasons. Topping my list is the unholy cold and seemingly endless dark of winter up here. Second is the hicksville mentality of Saskatoon city council and, say, 80% of the population. I know I need a place with more museums, good libraries, and diversity and fewer pick-up trucks, baseball caps, and strip malls. Starbucks on every corner is NOT a substitute for a cafe culture. Ah well, one day soon, perhaps, we will both be free. Meanwhile, keep venting on your blog if you must.

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“Oh god. Out of boredom I looked up Saskatchewan Sucks Ass and got here.

The worst part is having to work hard to get the hell out of here.

And I also completely agree that “hey lets get completely drunk”, something I hear every fifteen minutes, is not “doing something”.

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“You speak the truth man, I can’t wait until I graduate and can leave this shitty racist province.

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“I totally agree with you man. Saskatchewan is a friggin sh*thole dump. I grew up on Vancouver Island and moved out to Regina around six months ago because people told me it was a nice, cheap place to live……..

Worst mistake of my life!!!! The first week there i got robbed at knifepoint for a six pack of beer about a block from my apartment. Regina is such an ugly, dismal city. The winter is horrible and the people are very unfriendly. 

Needless to say, im back living on Vancouver Island with a newfound appreciation for my beautiful home. 

I hope to never ever set foot again in the hellhole known as saskatchewan.

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“I stumbled on this a little late, I’ll admit. We’ve been living here for almost ten years now (yeah, I know) and I’ve hated every damn moment of it. Now we’re nearly set to move out to BC in a few months. Good riddance to this backwards, bumpkin-filled province. Love the blog that led me here, too.

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“1. The people stink in Regina. 2. They are so nosey 3. they turn everything you say into the worst possible senario. 4. Cmon you gotta admit the people of Saskatchewan are generally lacking in Intelligence

Did i mention the women of regina stink? I HATE SASKATCHEWAN but it has a great economy so I stay.

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I think the best word to describe Saskatchewan is cheesy.

Everything here is cheesy… I left in 1982 with no intentions of returning, however, elderly, ill parents (that’s all there seems to be here are Aboriginal people and the elderly) have caused my return. I returned in 2008 to find it was still 1982 here. I have pleaded with my folks to come back with me to Ontario, where the climate is SO much more tolerable and there is civilization, but the old man, in the typical Saskatchewan fashion, has said he has “No use for those high-falutin’ easterners” Okay, so he should stay here. I guess it would be wrong to try to uproot an old tree and transplant… Even if the location for it is much superior. 

However, I can’t believe everything from how awful and cheesy the local television newscasts are (For God’s sake, Rob McDonald, it’s time to move to the newsroom and get off the camera) to the lack of culture, to the proliferation of really bad and unhealthy places to eat (The omnipresent buffets, Jerry’s, et al) The racism… Gay bashing, anyone of colour or race is held in contempt here, The unbelievable 1980’s hairstyles that I though were dead 2 decades ago, the sweatpants and baseball cap mentality.. Huge pickups with pilsner beer logos and fatness everywhere…Classless boors and hooligans everywhere from movie theatres, to campgrounds to the city streets.


The worst thing, though, is how one is judged if you DO have some class or are different… Have you ever seen the reaction of the average person from Saskatoon who is made to listen to classical music? or to look at some art? Or eat some interesting ethnic food? The symphony orchestra is constantly struggling here, the Mendal art gallery’s main audience are folks who come to see Saskatoon’s only Banana tree, and fine dining options are obscure and esoteric. 


I don’t hate it here, it’s just like being in a cheesy timewarp and I almost feel sorry for the people here who remain… They are like lost, pathetic, frozen souls who are terrified of the outside world and holds anyone who does not embrace their views and values in contempt.

Just to add a further comment, I find that if one can stay in Saskatoon within the confines of the University, Nutana Park area/Saskatchewan Crescent, Broadway the the downtown along the river east of 4th Ave. keeping the gorgeous Bessbourgh hotel in site at all times as a beacon of civilization and a bastion of good architectural taste and class, the city can be somewhat tolerable. Outside of these parameters is to find bleakness, strip malls and vulgarity.

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I do enjoy your posts on Saskatchewan, as some comments to me rang true.

One was the sojourn called winter, for living here now in Washington State, it is funny to look at my car and think I used a block heater, batter blanket, and interior car warmer just to keep going. 

The good side to the hellish winters (especially working out in them) is that I don’t freak at the slightest bit of snow like Western Washington State people do.

It is true Saskatchewan’s politics are as boring to watch as continental drift too! (Made me laugh so hard.) 

It’s also true people in Regina get vertigo going up the “hill” called the underpass at Broad Street. 

I disagree with Saskatchewan drivers not passing though, as Washington State one’s are a lot more pansy-like to pass.

I also think passing lanes aren’t that necessary on most roads in Sask, as they don’t get much traffic, and you often do have a good view ahead to judge passing. There’s some rolling hills to the south and that, but visibility is never as bad as driving in the Yakima Canyon (which is nothing).

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“It made my day to read this.

I moved to Saskatchewan 3 yrs ago from Ontario and absolutely hate it.
Everything on that list is true. 

You could add that the locals here think Saskatchewan is the best thing since sliced bread and they STILL talk about Tommy Douglas and how superb he is for medicare…

For reals, get over it.

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“The only reason some people now refer to this place as “progressive” is because, when there’s nothing to begin with, anything is progressive. A kid saying “Da Da” is progressive compared to slobbering on himself.

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“Hillarious . . . and sad, because I unfortunately do live here, but you forgot one thing . . . no daylight savings in SK . . . yep, pitch black at 5pm in the winter . . . so stupid!!!

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“Problem with Saskatchewan is… you can’t make something out of nothing… and it seems that only a few of you are are smart enough to realize that… and you’re either gone or planning to leave some day soon.


“Ignorance is bliss” to anyone who would live here, if they really had a choice. 

Read the Regina Leader Post or the Saskatoon Star Phoenix if you want an education on what this province has to offer. It tops the list for crime, drunk drivers, gambling and discrimination. It’s front page, local rag news, every day of the year!

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“actually you have it the other way around. No daylight savings means you get sunlight later in the day. This is the one thing I actually liked about SK.

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“Before I actually worked in Sask I read mainstream news stories about the great people that live there…now I laugh at all these stories of how great the people in Sask are….I worked in Regina for several months and I hated it. The people are the sons and daughters of miserable farmers and miserable failed farmers. The company I worked for had to grossly overpay people to fly in every week to work – and people still quit regularly.

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“During my unfortunate time commuting to Regina I met a couple from there during one of my weekend’s home in Toronto. They told me that they left when they were 18 and had no plans to ever go back. They hated the people, and they felt sorry for me. They told me all this the first time I met them in a Chapters parking lot. Enough said

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“I am no big fan of the province either, but I would take this place over a lot of others. I live in rural saskatchewan and don’t mind it a bit. There are lots of things to do like riding atv and sleds. Great swimming and I can’t complain about the camping. I am glad that most campsites aren’t that glamorous, makes us actually get away from technology (heaven forbid). The winters aren’t that bad, just pansies like yourselves who can’t handle a little cold. Ever notice that we don’t have tornados (or at least extreme ones), earthquakes, hurricanes and volcanic activity. I will gladly take cold weather if I didn’t have to worry about my house blowing away. You complain about nothing to do here. What have you done to change the situation? Nothing, that is what I thought. Major cities have nothing but traffic congestion, crime (just like regina), lack of community values, and gangs. I would much rather live in a small city with little to do compared to that. I lived in Alberta for a short while and couldn’t stand people there. It is all about money and how self-important their province is compared to the rest of the country. Yes we aren’t perfect but who is. As for classical music and various cultural events, who cares. Everyone thinks because you don’t go to a musical or an art event that you have no class. No offence, but I would rather watch an action flick than sit through something like that. I have seen the people that go those events and most of them are people who have nothing better to do than look down their noses at the rest of society. Yes there is a bit of gay hate in this province, seems to me california is no better since they made gay marriage illegal, even in a referendum. Saskatchewan didn’t even do that. No I am not some old guy trying to figure out how to use a computer. My opinion is, if you don’t like it here, don’t let the car door hit you in the ass on the way out.

No, I am not an NDP supporter and nor do I care much about Tommy Douglas. But I do hope you enjoy your free healthcare in the other provinces you move to.

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“People in small towns become alcohaulics when they are only 11 years old.

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“Saskatchewan sucks! I totally agree with you…

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“Saskatchewan sucks. I dont know how else to put it. I have lived in every province in Canada and can say, Saskatchewan is the worst.

It is true that this place is a time warp. Nothing has been done to it since I’d even say the 1970s. The people here think they are amazing because there is a bit of development going on here. I moved here from Ontario in January of 2009, and the first thing I was told was “ooooh those easterns stealing our jobs now!” and professing how great Saskatchewan is. I told him you cant borrow $40 off a friend, and when you finally pay him back $10 of it…think that you are superior. 

The houses here are tiny shit dumps. I dont understand how anyone would want to pay $300k for a house that is 800sq ft. Oh lets look at the architecture behind them too…shitty little bungalos…90% of them. 


People here cant drive. I dont understand it….if you are on a 2 lane road, and there is a car beside you and it slows down to say, take a left hand turn, why does the person in the other lane slam on their brakes? Doesn’t help that they also drive side by side going 35km/hr on a 50km/hr roadway. I guess its because they really dont have anywhere to go since there is nothing to do here.


Riders nation…right. more the 90% of the people dont know the rules to a football game. They all dress up and think they are CRAZY fans, but really…there is nothing here to get excited over. It’s a false sense of hope. By the way, good job on the 13th man in the grey cup…typical saskatchewan fashion…cant count. 

People here are ugly, fat, stupid, and cheap. I cant wait to get out of here.

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“I am from Nova Scotia and also moved here within the last year. Most of my time has been spent on leaving Saskatchewan (taking trips to Calgary, Edmonton, Toronto, Ottawa, Halifax, Montreal, Washington) to get the hell out of here. You can instantly tell when you drive across the Alberta border. Things all of a sudden turn less shitty…

When I went out to the ‘hip’ country bar to try and meet some people it was absolutely retarded. 

I would tell people im new and im from Nova Scotia and they would say “oooh, must be nice to be a fucking newfie!” 

Hate to break it to you, you horse fucking idiots, but Newfoundland and Nova Scotia are 2 different provinces. and yes, it is nice to be from the coast where people actually treat each other with respect. 

I think im going to have to buy a pickup truck, attach some steel ‘balls’ to the back hitch, buy myself some sick white oakley sunglasses, get my body covered in tribal tattoos, call every girl I see a bitch/hoe/slut, and then maybe I’ll fit in….or maybe, I’ll just let Saskatchewan self implode. This place is the biggest dump I’ve ever seen…

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“The only thing shitty about Saskatchewan is the weather. If summer were longer and winter were shorter, this place would be awesome. As it is I get sicker and sicker every year of living in this crummy province. Cannot wait to get my degrees so I can peace out this shit hole

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“To West, Vancouver Island is one of the richest places in Canada you spoiled brat, so piss off. Second, instead of going to farm villages to get your kicks, go to a real city that isn’t Regina. (It’s not a city) Also to the guy who got robbed at knifepoint. Yes our crime rate is very bad and our police force is worse but honestly, what the hell are you doing walking alone on a dark night with a six pack? Don’t you think walking in a bad neighbourhood in the dark of night in any city is an intelligent idea? Whatever O’m sorry for you though. To the racism, again that is definitely a problem in Regina, not so much in Saskatoon. The Saskatchewan Roughriders are our pride and joy, why? There the only damn professional team we have! The only reason people aren’t staying in Saskatchewan is because half of our population is in Alberta sucking up whats left of the oil. If you wanna see obese, go to the States, end of story. If you find a bunch of fat people, you are probably anorexic and I’m extremely worried for you. Finally, not important to me but it is not starbucks that is on every corner, it’s Tim Hortons. That’s all I have to say for now to clear the air for some of you Saskatchewan hating dbags. Calgary… burn in hell.

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“We moved here 2 years ago and have also been trying to get away from here every day. We thought we would like living in the country, become entrepreneurs but Saskatchewan does not like newcomers.


We have people drive by and park in front of our driveway and just stare at us, they do not wave or say hello just stare, like we are some strange animal in a zoo. 

We have hit every blockade possible trying to start a business. The people here are so insular. But, I must say we have a couple of very nice neighbors who think that there is life outside the 4 borders of Saskatchewan. 

Most merchants are so much against business. Or they like to diddle their customers, there is no customer service in this place. 

The roads are horrible,no one knows how to fix concrete or black top properly, why are the roads so much better in Manitoba and Alberta. 

Why can they not clean streets of snow, or at least be ready for the snow. I have never seen a winter city like this before, truly unbelievable.

Tired of everyone talking about getting drunk, all they want to do is eat and get drunk…….people are so fat here. I have come from the States and per capita there are a lot more fat people here than in the states. 

There are more bars,x-rated shops,etc than bookstores. We have lived all over and have learned that cities with few book stores are usually the worst places to live. 

It is absolutely filthy here, there is garbage blowing every where, people have no confidence in their city. No one fixes anything, just stays broken. Yes, there are American cities that are filthy but this is a small city why is it so dirty. 

The good things about this city are the main library but hardly anyone is there except homeless people. The sunsets and the sunrises, the moonlit skies when it is not cloudy.

It is a province to want to leave which is unfortunate because it could be a whole lot better.

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“Man, some of the Saskatchewan Rider fans are SO ANNOYING! I wish they had a real city in their own province! Maybe, then they would actually be allowed to have a hockey team and a few decent restaurants and some culture etc. I hate to break the news to you uncouth, hillbilly Saskatchewan fans: NOBOD CARES about your choking Riders over here!!! In addition to NHL hockey, we actually have some culture here in Alberta. Stop galavanting around Calgary and Edmonton because you are a nuisance. The people in Calgary and Edmonton are too busy being adults to care about you. We are busy and we do NOT care about your lame green handlebar mustaches and your lame green mullets, shirts, wigs, paited faces etc.!!!

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“What a spectacular blog! It’s wonderful to know that I’m not alone in thinking that SK is a backward, hick province… here are a few extra pointers:

1) SK is full of crazies (psychos). Seriously, I have never met so many crazies in one place EVER.

2) Low socio-economic class/rural people = closed minded; limited world knowledge; nosy-gossip-loving-rumour-spreading hicks… even the “educated” ones

3)Roughriders?? come on

4)The wheatfields freak me out.

5)People keep their dogs in CAGES! How cruel.

6) Saskatoon is the BIG CITY. You have made it BIG TIME if you live/studied in Saskatoon (hahahahahahhahahaaaahaha!!)

Why do people choose to live here? It’s beyond me… There is so much more to life.

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“True story: Went back to Regina to visit family. Dinner(excuse me Supper) was at s pizza place. I ordered a Greek salad, it came with a lettuce base. ’nuff said

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“I moved to Vancouver several years ago, and have never looked back.

Vancouver has hundreds (maybe thousands) of homeless people, many addicted to crack and other drugs, concentrated in the Downtown Eastside (DTES). I often spend time walking around, going to see live music or art shows, or hanging out with friends who live nearby, and I have never been threatened or felt in danger. 

I feel safer walking down DTES back alleys in Vancouver, than I do walking around the ‘core-area’ in Regina. In Regina, your life could be threatened by: teenagers in native gangs, red-neck jocks who think you’re a fag, drunk Roughrider fans and moronic pick-up truck drivers. In Vancouver, if you want to avoid morons, just don’t go to Granville Street on the weekend, as they usually stay in one self-contained area. 


The music & art ‘scene’ in Regina is incestuous and backstabbing. Everyone sleeps with one another (seriously). You could go to a bar/show and see 5 ex girlfriends/boyfriends, along with 5 other people each of them has slept with. Imagine having to pretend you are friends with these people. Everyone also talks sh*t about each other, as they have nothing better to do, other than getting drunk on $7.50 beers at sh*tty overpriced bars.


Most people just stand around with their arms folded when watching bands play, and dancing or even shuffling feet rarely happens. Musician friends who have played in Regina compare it to performing for a group of zombies. 


People are generally unsupportive if you try and do anything culturally interesting in Regina. Please don’t move to Saskatchewan if you are a young creative soul — you will wither and die there. If you are an old fart, by all means go. I’m sure you will have a great time. 


If you are young and living in Saskatchewan, get out while you can. Avoid impregnating anyone/being impregnated, start a savings account, and start reading blogs on cities that you would like to move to. Try and avoid moving to Calgary or Edmonton if you can, unless you are fine with being in a place that is slightly better than Saskatchewan. Finally, you don’t even need to bring your sh*tty Pontiac Sunfire with you. Most large cities have good transit systems, and riding a bicycle is considered sexy in some neighborhoods. 

PS. It is January 13th, and it is +8 degrees here.

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“Here’s something else you can add to your list:

Vehicle Insurance is more than double what it costs in Alberta, even with your collision rider attached. 

They want 2 specific pieces of ID in order to insure your vehicle here. Your old DL for picture ID, plus either a birth certificate or passport. I don’t have a passport and God knows where my birth certificate is. A new birth certificate costs 90 dollars. After spending 500 dollars on windshield replacement and general tune up and repair so that I could pass the 140 dollar inspection, it doesn’t interest me to drop another 90 just to please the stinky woman behind the counter so that she’ll be able to gouge me for the privilege of destroying my vehicle on these abhorrent roads. 

So I’m driving without insurance. It’s okay though, because according to the SK government, I’m not who I am. I can run over a thousand of these yokel flatlander goat herders and they can’t touch me, because they can’t prove who I am.

Saskatchewan is Canada’s steaming manure pile.

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“I have lived in Saskatchewan for 12 years now. I understand some things you mentioned were true. Saskatchewan is a friendly, bright, caring province. Were not in dept like Ontario and we cant help that our weather sucks. We have a great football team who has lead us to 6 grey cups. Saskatchewan is a very amazing welcoming happy province. There are 69 percent over weight people but at least its not the worst province over weight. Our highways are under lots of work right now to make it better. We are a small province just over 1 million, we cant afford everything to be new. We produce potash and have amazing views. All in all, Saskatchewan is an awesome province. If you dont like Saskatchewan, then dont come here, thats all there is to it. Good day.

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“I lived in Regina for ten years in Normanview West. I managed to hold off a homeinvasion, it took the police 21 minutes to arrive, by that time the band of young natives had left town. Every house on our street was broken into at least once if not twice. The neighbour next door threatened to shoot a city worker.


The winters are unbearably cold and the few nice days of summer are plagued by mosquitoes and flies. The wind blows relentlessly. 

You are taxed and double taxed on eerything. Property taxes re out of sight.

People are somewhat friendly but have not idea of what a hole they are living in. They think Tommy Douglas is god and that SK is the center of the universe.

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“For some reaso i lefr Ontario..for here..god knows what i was thinking..But this province really sucks!!! Honestly!! I have never lived in a province that sucked soooo much! I would NEVER recommend any one to ever live here. And the goverment doesn’t even listen to what anyone is saying!! Please!Oh wait…must be election time coming up..someone will listen for a bit!

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“I just hate saskatchewan !! Sorry people !! Just hate it !!

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“The rudest most simple minded people in the country. They remind of extras from the set of ” DELIVERENCE ” . Uneducated monkeys smug and arrogant.

Poor customer service, you have to educate them and kiss their ass to get the minimum service for your maximum dollar. 

Backstabbing two faced gossips.

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“Incredible the way these gopher loving stubble jumpers who love this province search for a site about people that hate it. Then the presumptious tabaky chewers presume to know why we are here.

They prove the haters right again. It’s not the province itself that we hate, It’s the rude narrow minded simpletons that are unfriendly, that make you hate it.

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“Hey dodge it’s inbred monkies like you that are the reason you and your shit province suck. People like you that have never been anywhere never done anything other than your mother or sister, but think you know everything.

You truly are a pathetic joke, remember that when you look in the mirror, if you can afford one.

Smart people like me LOVE taking jobs from you dummies.I would let you eat my shit but your not worthy.

Now take your mothers dress off and be a man.LOL

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“Sask is better then the cop capital of Canada……….Shithole ontario”. High auto insurance,tons of problems if your a auto enthusiast or car guy. Permits for this, licences for that, I’ll take sask anyday over shithole ONSCARIO…..there’s more police here then citizen’s

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“I can only comment on the 2 hours I spent in Regina, but I managed to get attacked by a homeless looking dude walking back to my friends car at the gas station. Buddy just sucker-punched me in the top of my head(?) (without trying to roll me, on the bright side) and when I cracked him back he just walked off. Surreal.


Other than that, it smelled of shit, had no visual appeal and had a general dodgy scumbag feel to it. 

When Winnipeg beats your major urban hubs out as a superior destination, you know you’re fucked. 

And as Saskatoon being the only other major destination…..why bother at all with the province? If you’re not an indian and you defend it, you probably haven’t been anywhere that doesn’t suck….or you like banging yer cousins.

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“Thank you,”anonymous”. You said what I have been feeling, unfortunately, I let emotions get in the way of being delicately articulate.

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“ever since i had the misfortune of living here, i have been working to get out of this dirty filthy crime ridden city called regina.. the people here are complete douchbags,i mean that sincerely, the people of regina are absolute assholes


and i dont think one resident (other than me) knows how to drive over 40.. 

saskatchewan is the shithole of canada… right in the middle and the dirtiest part. period

…could some1 tell me why they allow god damn 300 car trains to roll through the city at peak times such as lunch times and at rush hour 4:30. its absolute bullshit!! 
i hate regina with every fiber of my being..

Thank you for starting this blog

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high prices and NO TITTYNBARS

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I grew up in Sask. (Regina) Moved to Alberta 20 years ago I returned to Sask. to visits old friends a couple times over the years… it’s like time stood still in Regina, everyone is the same, everything is the same I don’t mean to hurt anyone’s feelings from Sask. but what a waste of life it really isn’t a good places to live and if you’ve never lived else where besides Sask. you’d be ignorant to knowing better. Fuck Sask. sucks cock.

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“You ignorant FUCK. If you hate it so much, get the hell out. I live and work out of Calgary right now and can say with 100% fact, Calgary is a much bigger HOLE then Saskatchewan. All this bullshit talk about over priced housing, racism, lack of culture makes me sick. Just because you’re low life no good loser, doesn’t make the great province of Saskatchewan less great. Fuck I wish I never stumbled upon your blog because now if by ANY chance I met u in person I’d kick your ass and send you packing.

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www.leaderpost.com/call+help+with+suspicion+after+friend+went+missing+Wascana+Lake/5390901/story.html

Here’s a nice story about the fucking humanitarians who live in the envy of the free world. If a shithole like Saskatchewan is the envy of the free world, then the free world needs to up it’s expectations a bit. The story is about how the racist rednecks that make Saskatchewan the barrel of laughs it is didn’t believe that a man had just drowned. You would have to be totally fucking unconscious not to see why. The dead dude and his pal were Indians. So the rednecks just assumed the live one was flipping out after sniffing glue or that a dead Indian is not something to get upset about or just forgot what was going on seconds after it happened. Such nice kind people in Regina, may you all rot and perish.

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“I live in Calgary and wish all of the Saskatchewan residence would move back home. They have single-hanedly distroyed this Province

They are the true scum bags of scum bags. These trailer park idiots made a few bucks here and now they think their crap doesn’t stick….that couldn’t be further from the truth.

They are ignorant, rude, filthy, dirty, trailer park trained, always want to fight, alcoholics, wife-beaters, basically the worst form of a human being known to man. 

I wish they would seperate themselves as a seperate country so they can get the hell out of the rest of Canada.

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“I grew up in Saskatchewan and thought it was the best place on earth. Moved to BC for 5 months then had to move back. Wow, this place sucks ass. I came back a much nicer person and couldn’t believe how angry everyone seemed. Not a lot of love in this province and it is just a bunch of farmers and tradesman who have never left this province and think they know everything about everything. Pretty sad. God forbid you say something different or have a different opinion on something. If you are different in anyway you will get weird looks. And after wasting 20 years of my life living here I can say that pretty much everything on that list is true I was just to ignorant to see it until I left. Cant wait to get the hell out of this shit hole

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“Lol you forgot stupid drivers, Regina has stupid drivers like they dont know how to merge onto a highway

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“I left Saskatchewan for Ontario in 2009 and I did the right thing. Saskatchewan is proof that we live in an unkind and unfair universe. Saskatchewan is full of inbred redneck mutants who should be gassed and cremated for the good of mankind. I got out when I realized that I could be something more than a hyperconservative mouth-breathing racist ignorant piece of human garbage Saskatchewan simpleton. Out here in Toronto you are all living jokes. The rest of the country looks at you and laughs, then, after pausing to wipe tears of mirth from their eyes, thanks God they either were not born in SK or had the sense to escape to the civilized world, where you can see people who aren’t white and find something to do that doesn’t involve drinking yourself unconscious. I have a special message for the SK residents who wish to make a feeble effort to defend their sewer of a province: fuck right off. Don’t even bother responding to the truths I have placed before your unseeing eyes. You are the shit of the earth and your vile existence is a sin against God and nature. You have as much to say to a man who is not one of you as Brent Butt has to say to Steven Hawking.”


mccuddendan, Gassed and cremated? You are a Nazi prick aren’t you? Toronto is a joke. Ontario’s economy is shrinking.

http://www.stthomastimesjournal.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=3349117 The Leafs suck. The people who support the Leafs and Jays here are simpletons like yourself. Central Canada is living off Western Canada’s natural resources. Without Western Canada’s natural, your manufacturing base would be nothing, and your economy would be in ruins. Central Canada relies on Western Canada and the USA more than the other way around.

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“Hi, well i moved here from england bout three yrs ago .. At first i thought how nice everyone is and how cheap things are and the roads are so huge.. then you realise people are all fake and two faced. i would prefer people to be honest than just be a slimy fake f**k. And cheap , yeah right what was i thinking , whos bright idea was it to advertise prices before adding any taxes or any deposit enviromental charges. seriously that should be illegal. and yeah the roads are huge, with massive pot holes in them and oh yeah no one can drive. I have no idea how these f**ks got there licenses. and are the cars not fitted with indicators or what.. USE THEM…

This place sucks , i cant stand it here . i miss real people
oh yeah and the lake is NOT the beach a beach is by the sea. dumbasses

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“Any place is all about the people who live there. Most of the people here have never travelled much and are very suspicious about ‘outsiders’. After all, they’ve been called “Rednecks” and “Bumpkins” and much worse since Saskatchewan was incorporated as a province more than 100 years ago. Most of us still truley believe that a stranger is a friend you haven’t met. The rest, who stare, who critisise and never help are niether citezens of Saskatchewan or Canada and should be treated as such. This province truely needs and longs for more Torontonians, Vancouverites, Montrealers, and Americans to flood in and show us the way! We’re getting too fat and lazy and selfish!! HELP!!

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“The land of low wages,layofs,welfare taxes and assholes.Nothing to do here but gamble and drink[ not for me].To do well here you have to work for the government or city,if you are lucky enough to know someone who will get you in.If you have money it will quickly dissappear.Born and grew up here 45 years.All my freinds have done better moving away.I buy my lottery ticket every day hoping to win and move away too.If you are planning on doing renovations,good luck!!!.The worst players are the city permits (take forever and dont care),sask power ( dont answer phone calls,dont do any work and have obseen charges for it because they are “different” they told me).Waiting for 2 months now to get my power hooked up,now they tell me its going to be winter rates?? when they get around to doing it,still dont know when that is.Sask energy for fucking up and cutting me off(would not fix it,said the dont keep billing records}11 years without.YOU get fucked here,if you fuck with people you will get yours!!! I enjoy getting even !!!

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“i agree corporate companies are a joke mostly because of ther lack of management employees, unions nobody works nobody gets hurt sit around and collect ot and raine the utitly rates taxes keep going up services become less shitty alleys never get graded hazardous sidewalks rough streets lease your vehicle cus in 3 years its shot by the way city dog fuck grader ops pretty sad when u gotta replace a set of tires on your grader before the cutting edge lmfao

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“one thing for sure dont expect service or to get what you order ive been overcharged at tim hortons twice lately because of them dam immigrants nothing against em if they wanna work but at least learn the language so you get what you order and keep your customrs happy

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“People from Saskatchewan are the scum bags of scum bags, they are definitely the armpit of Canada and they just stick!!

They are the most rude SOBs I’ve ever met, they have no respect, they go to places like Alberta to work in the oil fields and now these trailer park aholes think that their crap doesn’t stink. 

The are classless and complete losers…stay away from this deadhorse Province. The only thing go to do there is stop to take a crap while you’re passing through.

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“sask power did not show up or do any work or call

fucking piece of shit assholes (sask power) I stayed home frome work, they were supposed to come trench in power to my house today,no one called or did any work.I called them and got the same bullshit excuses and they will have to find someone who knows and call me back.Now they say monday or tuesday.I have been waiting since november.Sask power blames the contractors for being behind and the contractors blame sask power for screwing up and loosing paperwork. I am supposed to pay i dont know how much for this shit service if it gets hooked up.Wish i could sue and make them pay

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“I dislike Saskatchewan as well…but I can’t help but notice that all of the out of province and self proclaimed “intelligent” people keep spewing the most vulgar comments. Maybe I’m incorrect here, but I was under the assumption that intelligent people take socioeconomic constraints and historical context into consideration before visiting a place, what did you really expect from Saskatchewan if you did any research? I was also under the assumption that intelligent people were more well bred than to make arguments based upon slander. It saddens me that so called “intelligent” people can so easily other a group of people without thinking about individual circumstance and personalities.

Anyhow, after Harper gained his majority I made up my mind to leave this Country for good. After traveling across it, I have realized that the people don’t get better, they simply get a different kind of awful. The country makes poor decisions and has poor leaders who are elected by poor, rude and vulgar citizens that I no longer want to associate myself with. Comment Boards such as this only reaffirm my ideas.

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“I lived in Regina for 4 years, after spending my life in Ontario. I have lived in small suburban areas and in cities and I have got to say it is a shit holy/ Some great people yes, some I will always treasure and still remain friends with….but guess what? They are not from SK but rather transplants from other provinces. The education system is brutal (I taught there, college and high school), years behind other parts of the country. U of R is a joke…got some cash and you are in! I will never more there again no matter the potential benefits to my family. My husband grew up in SK, hence why we went to live there; he quickly remembered why he left so long ago. He was just as excited to get out of there as I was. Good housing prices and extended family be damned The quality of life is too poor and a great number of the people should start to read rather then drink and try to figure out ways to fix the culture of the province and find some good applications for their new found cash. Never would want to raise my children there.

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“DYNASTY HOMES IS A SCUM BAG IMMIGRANT DOESNT PAY HIS BILLS DONT WORK FOR HOM DONT BUY A HOUSE FROM HIM! DRIVE THESE SCUM BAGS RIGHT OUT OF SASKATCHEWAN AND EVEN CANADA BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM

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“true for me. started my working career for ( domanique p bigayan)name is best i can do.led me on day by day i will get paid and renovated a house 4 months.did not get paid. contractor someone kept coming to house and threatened me and- domaniqe who was never there for money owed. ,went to his house often to get paid , got excuses and only 400 bucks. a year later he tried to get me to work for him again, he woldnt quit phoning( my mom told to get lost) left a bad immage in my mind about people—– J R

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“Best blog ever, and only too true. I have been in saskatoon for six years now and am trying desperately to get the hell out. As soon as I sell my hugely overpriced house in ticky tacky ville, I’ll be long gone and I’ll be doing my wife( originally from here) and kids a favor of introducing them to a culture in africa, where people take the time to enjoy life, instead of living to work, and then retire at 60 just to get cancer and die from being stuck in a voc hole for six months of the year. I come for Zimbabwe where people have six ft fences with raxor wire around their one acre properties and when I tell people that they say” you must feel like a prisoner”, well I’ll tell you now, I have never felt more like a prisoner in my life than living in Saskatoon. I would rather live under the rule of Robert G Mugabe than live here. My wife has been there and seen what I am talking about and she can’t wait for the move too.

Will keep you posted and until then I’ll continue to despise this place.

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“I have lived in Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta, and I can confirm that Saskatchewan is the absolute worst and it is not even close.

Winnipeg is nothing special but at least the people are friendly. I couldn’t believe how such small towns in Saskatchewan could be full of such huge assholes. I thought small-town folk were supposed to be nice?

And the Riders are such a joke. I’m a real CFL fan and I try to strike up a conversation about the CFL with a supposed huge fan and he doesn’t even know half the players’ names on the Riders!! WTF is that?!?

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“Read everyone of the posts on here. I can tell the the demographics of the posters is between 16 and 28. To pick out somethings that are so minuscule in life is really sad. Most of you need a real wake up call.

I have lived in the Greater Vancouver area and I have also lived in Toronto. In the GV area I’ve witnessed beautiful people turn into crack heads. In Toronto I saw my good friends pain after his son was gunned down as an innocent by stander.

I missed several important meetings or get together because I was stuck in a 90 minute stand still in my vehicle. 

You cant walk around in Gas Town anymore because East Hastings has been taken over by the living Dead. 

I lived in Regina for several years now and I adore the calm energy of this City. I appreciate SK as I can get from City to City driving at 110 KLM an hour. There are so many positives of living in SK. 

Even the Weather has been nothing but stellar here. So the Alberta bragging of +8C in January means nothing. It was all of that and then some here this past January.

When most of you actually grow up and become truly accountable. You will realize that you had nothing more than an uneducated juvenile impression of what SK is compared to the rest of the Country. 

Fred in Regina
In my humble opinion

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“I left Regina back in 2005 to move to Calgary, and I still think to this day it was the best decision I ever made. There’s more to do there, The weather you can tolerate in the middle of Jan. My family is begging me to move back there. My fiance and I are having a baby in Dec and he really wants to move there. I really don’t. I make 3 times as much money here than I did in Regina. I looked at Saskjobs and I swear alot of clerical jobs pay $11-$12 an hour. You can maybe get in through the provincial or federal governement, if you are Native, Metis or has a blood relative that works there. Also the houses are priced the same as Calgary, how can that be possible if the wages havent increased. Oh right you have to be a guy and work on the mines to make decent coin. I really dont want to raise my kid in Calgary and male dominating Saskatchewan. I would rather stay in Alberta like a small town like drumhellar, where house prices are not overpriced and I can transfer there.

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“Saskatchewan rules you people of stupidness. who do you think you are? Oh and by the way the Riders are the awesomest team in the world and who needs hockey. Booooo Hey if we couldn’t grow wheat you wouldn’t have good bread now would you. saskatchewan and awesomness is like peas and carrots so suck on that suckers. Yah I watched forest gump last night. What!!!!!!!

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“Saskatchewan is like unicors and cotton candy, it is awesome. nuff said. and you must be a poopedy poop poop face to say that about saskatchewan, you donkey breath pig face jerk. And yes we do say eh lots and we are stronger because we eat good food like our homegrown wheat and beef, I COULD KICK YOUR ASS ANY DAY,you coward. Eh

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“Wow, really people?

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“thank you guys I feel way better after reading all these. there are ppl out there feel the same.

I have created this facebook page and copied some of the comment that the most I like, feel free to like and join.
https://www.facebook.com/IHateRegina

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“I LOVE SASKATCHEWAN!!! I am a big fat, candy eating homo who loves my socialist roots. When are you negative ninnies going to learn that all this whining is only going to give you a disease. Oh yeah, I love that Craven is the STD capital event in North America!!!

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“hahahaha…..I am from Saskatchewan and I love this blog. All of this is sooo true. I dies laughing at the comment about the steel balls, white oakleys and the bitches, hoes and sluts. I am here for now because all of my family lives here…….BUT I NEED OUT!!!!!!!

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“hahahahahahaha I have lived in Saskatchewan and Alberta. And I would choose Sask any day. I have travelled to many parts of the world, and although our land may not be exciting in your view, it is in ours. The people here are not comparable to any one else around the world. The familistic values they contain are outstanding. The lengths people will go to help complete strangers is something to be talked about. Not only that, have you ever been to Saskatoon during fall? to see the vibrant colours reflect onto the river as you see a showcase of the old university buildings? or the endless wheat and canola fields as they turn. probably not. This province is booming, and as I live in Calgary, and still miss that little old town, where you go to the grocery store and everyone knows who you are. Maybe it is different than big cities, but I prefer it that way.

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“Hey, I am right in there with the “I hate Saskatchewan People” Lived here now for 6 years and it is the most boring place on the planet. The reason why everyone helps out strangers and newcomers is to find out all the goods on them so they can sit back in their drunken stupor with accomplices and anyone and everyone else. They twist everything you say into something totally unrecognizable. Everything is literal here, you cannot tease about anything at all. Boring, Boring Boring. Nice to your face but watch out what is being said behind your back. Granted fields are pretty at harvest time but … not much else here. They are everyone’s friend until they get all the info to ruin ya. Weird ideas and strange beliefs. Children of the corn stuff (oh excuse me – Wheat stuff) for sure here. It wasn’t meant literally as corn sorry (geez someone will be correcting me – yikes) LOL. They think ghost towns are named that because there are real ghosts too.

Seriously go see a shrink if you ever think about moving here.

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“I think Racism is the biggest problem I have with Saskatchewan. I am utterly disgusted with how I have been treated in the few months that I have been here. I only have about 3 more to go and can’t wait to leave. I have experienced more racism here than I have my entire life living in Toronto Calgary Edmonton and Iowa City. It makes me sad to think these people all ignorantly believe they are better than anyone who may have colored skin. Its equivalent to the USAs southern states. I’m surprised I haven’t run into any groups wearing white ropes and pointy hats. And to those that love this province i will be leaving and wont be coming back so don’t worry about burning my house down and running my colored ass outta town I will leave willingly. Definitely don’t want to raise my kids here.

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“Thank you for this post! It really made my day!! I had the unfortunate experience to live in Regina for 17 years after growing up in AB. I now live in BC- and I’m not going back EVER!! The people there are miserable- they know they live in a shithole and that they will never leave, so they are constantly mad. Regina “ladies” (I use that term loosely as there are hardly any real ladies in SK) think they are hot shit, when really they are loose, pathetic backstabbing bitches who will lie and steal just to make themselves feel better.

I feel sorry for people who have to live in Regina- it stinks every spring from the “lake” (AKA slough) and the refinery helps the air smell like SHIT and ass whenever you drive by it. 

The police in that city are a fucking joke. They are the real bullies- and they have a huge sense of entitlement. They think they can do whatever they want, harass innocent people- and the sick thing is THEY GET AWAY WITH IT!! Their police chief is no better than the RPS itself- just full of fucking inbred backwood farmer assholes who can barely read. But since their hiring processes is so lax, anyone can be a member of the police–all you have to do is watch 3 episodes of Law & Order, take notes on their interrogation procedures, answer 10 multiple choice questions and CONGRATS! You now have a badge and a gun-feel free to bully whomever you want- you don’t need evidence to charge anyone! Leave that up to the prosecutors- they throw out over half your cases anyways. 

The roads are a joke, as are the drivers. Farmers are the worst followed by the rednecks with trucks who think they get to rule the road because they drive a big truck. Lame

Getting drunk is their only option cuz then they can pretend that they don’t live in Regina anymore, and they can also pretend that the person they are with is actually attractive and have all of their teeth. 

Get the fuck out while you can….SK SUCKS!!!

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“can’t wait to get out of here. worst perogy and cabbage roll shit hole i have ever been in

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“You all bitch about how much Saskatchewan sucks but yet focuse on one or two stupid cities in the province. I have lived here all my ife and yes i agree Regina fucking sucks ass, but not every city or small town will be the same. And yes the highways have a lot of potholes and need to be fixed but not all of them are bad(take a drive on the worst highway in SK then you can complain). Everywhere you go theres gonna be something you don’t like and complain about, nowhere is perfect.

And yes there are some racists and people who don’t agree with same-sex relationships but you find that everywhere you go. Just cuz you met one person who was disrespectful or two-faced doesnt mean everyone in SK is like that.

And we do not become alcoholics at the age of 11, some ppl may start drinking at that age or whatever but you find planty of drunks and druggies in other provinces and contries.

And YES we get snow!!! its not gonna fucking kill you,lots of places get snow, we’re not the only ones. Winter is a beautiful time of year, yes its cold but some of the sites you can find are just gorgeous(and no none of them were in butt fuck Regina). You cant judge a whole province on one stupid city and a few people who didn’t like.

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“Thanks for this, this is amazing. I ended up here temporarily (thank you recession) for about a year, and have hated every second. This list is dead on.

The best one is #5. That one cracked me up – especially since that same government that commissions those TV ads effectively killed the Film/TV (what little of it there was which was virtually nothing) industry and drove those people away.

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“Just as i perdicted ,my licence plates are costing more now because of the fucking retards having accidents and injuries on the road.I drive for a living as a 1A professional and i have seen so many shitty drivers,- fat black woman in red car driving 20 k playing with papers and phone with airhead smile on her face on victoria ave ,a pacistani on same road same speed weaving from lane to lane leaving people to scared to pass,being in a big truck i got beside him and told him to take the bus and he told me to fuck off. I watched a cop follow behind a car going 20k on the lewvan in the left lane untill they were out of my sight.A pakistani pleaded me to drive his semi from blocking the road partially in ditch , i did it , he did not know how to operate his truck. I see manny immigrants who do not appear to understand the rules of the road I could go on and on.So many of these people combined with the citys lack of looking after roadways fucking pisses me off. Who gives these people licenses, and why should anyone pay such high taxes for shit service ?

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“Fuck the money sucking football stadium,hockey and baseball.My friend and i grew up riding motorbikes, snowmobiles and 4 wheelers getting chased around by the city police and RCMP ,occasionally getting caught.I miss the Wascana motorbike trails out by Sherwood forest and Condie,where everyone was supposed to go until they closed it down.I still have the images of the regina TV footage when the RCMP kicked everyone out of the park. It was full of people having fun wheeling not wanting to leave.We need an off road park to bring the good times back! Don’t ram shitty football down our throats!!!!!

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“Ya, OK…SK does have some very beautiful places/lakes/towns. But Regina DOES TOTALLY SUCK!! Such a nasty, gross, dirty disgusting city filled with even more disgusting people. Winter can be pretty there, but if you don’t X-country ski or snowmobile, you are shit outta luck unless you wanna drive for miles to a crappy “ski” hill. Roads in REGINA SUCK, not all the highways are bad. And there isn’t much to do there in Regina, if you have kids. I moved away, I will go back to visit friends/family, but I am happier now in BC. Peace!

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“The most prevalent characteristic of Sasquatches, (born and raised Sasquatchewaners) is that they’re just a little stupider than everywhere else, but they’re convinced they’re ten times as brilliant as everyone else. That and not a damn single one of them can drive to save their life.

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“Entering swift current going west,sign on the right side of the highway WELCOME TO THE BEST CITY IN CANADA TO RAISE A FAMILY, ahaaaaa haaaaahaaaaa what a brain wash sign!!!!! Monday morning first hour at comp highschool in swift current,student asking student,what did you do over the weekend?OH MAN I GOT SO FU..ING HAMMERED I SHIT MY PANTS 10 TIMES,AND THEN O WENT TO A HOUSE RECKING PARTY,FU@K MAN IT WAS SO GOOD.oh got I can’t wait until I move to Saskatchewan it sounds such of exciting place to raise and educate children !!!!!!!

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“99% of these comments are bang on. stuck in the dark ages. phony shit passed off as chinese food. the one that think sask is so great have never been off the farm. still hate and can’t wait for an opportunity to get out of here.

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“I agree with all you say,I live in swift current,it has to be the worst city in North America.God help me to get the hell out of here.

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“40 years old and still breast feeding and i don’t mean the girlfriend.

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Lived in regina for 2 years back in 2005, loved it alot more than Toronto. I can understand people livingin regina ALL their lives and hating the hell outta it, just like growing up in Toronto all my life. The traffic, the summer smog/stench, the crooked police, the homeless & crazies, the shootings and stabbings will make you go crazy. If your 30years or younger you have lost a friends to violence, if your over 30 your going broke from taxes, im glad to move to regina and get away from the craziness. Live natural, no flouride in the water, or no police shooting anything that moves. Ill much rather deal with wankster drunk natives, than the vicious gun runners, crack dealers in my old neighbourhood. I get the SK people or alberta or BC people that are looking for the fast exciting life that didnt find it in Regina, but i lived the fast life in toronto, grew up and seen EVERYTHING there is to see in toronto. Time for me to say peace out big city!!!

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“Wow. I actually have no option than to comment on this blog. Very funny comments. I wonder why some Sask people are getting their panties in a bunch over the mere observations that others have made. Why, do u think the “sask haters” have a point?

If u can’t stand their opinions, why don’t u also start a blog about how u hate Vancouver, Hamilton, Yellow knife etc.. Personally, 5 years here has been long enough. I thank Sask for its wonderful people (and the numerous, ignorant, racist, egocentric ones too). This province doesn’t have much to offer me. I DO NOT have to punish myself and waste my life away in Regina. And this is coming from me: someone who has visited every continent. Regina people are definitely an interesting buch.

Ps. The comment about Saskatchewanians thinking they r cool cos they drive raised trucks with balls attached to the hitches and wearing sick white Oakley glasses made me lmao. I can’t agree more. Good luck to u all whenever u choose to enjoy the rest of ur life. Remember, u live once!

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“As someone who was raised in Saskatchewan, and has gone on to “see the world”, I can offer this advice: Unless you’re a hardcore Christian who believes that “being smart is stupid” (yes, I’m aware of the oxymoron), relies on your R-complex to make all of your important life decisions, believes that farming is truly the pinnacle of human existence, and are of Eastern European decent, you may have a hard time fitting in there. Trust me.

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Hey all, Saskatchewan is not liked by me or the peoples comments before me maybe due to the fact that we are use to our original province that we are from. Ontario has alot to offer due to the population. Yes parts of that province suck also, but you can drive off somewhere without driving for hours to find something to do. That is hard reality when first coming here for me and is still. Towns and cities are far and between but getting a little use to it. I really dont miss those traffic jams in Ontario, so there is one good thing about this province. As for not much here I need to get out and explore more of the province and decide later than now to totally cut this province down. I came here for work with a good pay, but I could of picked Alberta or Nova Scotia, this was the better of the 3 that had to offer my needs. Still, this province does not offer to much, and most people I have talked to have never left the province or have been to Edmonton, big deal. There is a whole world out there. My god, my street nevr gets plowed once all winter, not to great for a western province, thats just one example. BRUTAL!!! This is one of the reasons us newcomers dont like this province. It is behind the times here by 20 to 50 years. Time to get out of the stone ages. Hoping some day I will like the province but not convinced yet.

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“In my opinion:

Saskatchewan people are not friendly, I have no idea where that B.S. comes from. The province is full of fat, cheap, heartless farmers. Who would sell their soul to the devil for a dollar. I met a Austrailian girl who spent the summer working for a farmer outside Saskatoon. The farmer convinced her to worker ‘under the table for her’ she had injured her finger bailing hay for him and needed medical attention. The farmer refused to pain and now that poor girl is without her pinky finger. 

Saskatchewan is not booming. People are retiring and rather then pay to train young people to take over these jobs to become new tradespeople(the companies are too cheap) they just want to steal tradespeople from the other provinces, and then try to get away with paying them 10/hr less then anywhere else. If you do get laid off don bother trying to get a job in one of the mines. If your fat farm kid played hockey with my fat farm kid then sure ill get you a job. Otherwise you don’t have a hope in hell of getting on there. I was let go after my employer said I wasn’t fast enough at my job, a year later I found out the entire staff was replaced by Filipinos who were working for half of the wage. 


Saskatoon people are the most arrogant snobbish people I’ve ever met in my entire life. They act like getting the U of S is the Ivy League which it is not. IT SUCKS! 

In Regina Roy Shivers was putting together a competitive team. He did a great job bringing in new talent, but because the team is run by a bunch of fat, stupid, cheap farmers, they fired him and now the team sucks again. 

There is this misconception in Ontario about Saskatchewan that it is like Kansas where if a farmer gets sick, his neibours all lend a hand until he gets better. Which is true in Kansas, but in Saskatchewan 

Every person is out for themselves, every person only cares about themselves.

If you want to live somewhere, where nobody cares about you, but your family, and they will leave you to die alone in the middle of nowhere, and fight over the scraps left behind. Move to Saskatchewan it is a terriable place to live!!!

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“try supervising these morons. you end up with a bunch of idiots trying to make a fool of you or sabotaging your work.

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“Lived here for 18 months, came for the work.

If you are a hard catholic youll love it here. If you are homophobic youll love it here. If you love 7months of snow followed by 1 month of mud (the likes of which you cannot explain) for 2 months of summer, youll love it here

If you are not a drunk, drug addict or riders fan you will have nothing in common with 85% of the population. 

If you are single, hope you love single native mothers and women with 3 kids looking for a payout. 

Most homes in cities and towns build in 1900s are turned into museums, sadly all the rural towns still have hand dug basements and coal chutes.

Trying to get out of this shithole time-warp and I will never return I promise. This province has made me believe in hell and honestly it would probably been an improvement.

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“Regina has never had very friendly people apart from a few.It has always had a nasty street- harassment culture that has seemed excessive for such a small place.I’ve been here for over a decade.It was boring,but bearable in the past.However,in the past four years Regina has become much worse.


The things that have been the most annoying about Regina in the past 4 years are: 


1.The street harassment-verbal and emotional abuse from total strangers is an almost everyday experience,especially for women.The rudeness and hostility of the people,people are more aggressive in Regina than ever before. 


2.The traffic;insanely loud motors ripping through residential neighbourhoods at all hours of night & day,speeding and running through red lights.Hit & runs happen every month now. 


3.Very odd,bizarre behaviour of people.Also,very drunk and high people all around if you dare to go out at night. 


4.Fights.About once a week or more I have to hear/witness a fight.(And I don’t live or work in ‘bad’areas.) 


5.Gangs & gangsta wanna-bes (who are more than just one race)all over the city wherever you go.And they are just copying gangsta rappers from the States,they have no true identity of their own. 


I have always noticed the people who love Regina the most tend to be malicious bullies or bitter people.People are thrown under the bus for wanting out of this place,that we must be the bitter,angry people.How about just tired of it,okay?If you think I should fuck off,well,give me the fucking money to do so because it’s hard to make a decent wage AND pay the astonishingly high rent for the dump you live in and all your bills and have enough to save for moving away,and I’d love to fuck off and find some other place,to see for myself if what all the people who have travelled or come from elsewhere say is really true.

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“Moved to sask 7 yrs ago. People seemed friendly at first, but small town, all related, mentality where most have never travelled beyond the “big” city…it’s terrible! Kids are encouraged to drink by 11or 12…parents buy them booze. Drugs are rampant,and nobody blinks an eye when a 12 yr old moves in with the town drug dealer who is 23. The ones that make waves or want change are black balled. Get real people…your kid is probably doing drugs and drinks before puberty. I hate sask now and can’t wait to go back to AB…where money drives society but at least people work hard. Here you will have to wait 3 weeks for a plumber to come…not because he is so busy, but cause he starts at 11 and day is done by 4… Plus meeting for coffee and lunch at the local cafe. Work, people! Then you can have nice houses and cars…quit whining about what you don’t have or what those ” damn” albertans have waving around their can. Pulleeesssee… Ugh!

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“Well tallgrass praire, I have also met other sask people outside this province and youre right they are great but they have enough sense to get out. The trash always sticks around, remember when you graduated highschool everyone went to college and university but the failures and burnouts stayed home. This place is the burnout central, the ones who have no where left to go and are desperate for work stay and come here.

Maybe in about 20 years when the good ole boys drop dead and stop acting like its the 1950s and catch up with the rest of the world this place might be tollerable.

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“Lets look at Toronto shall we?

Smog that kills thousands a year 

Brutal humidity in both summer and winter that makes the temperature feel much worse than it really is (-5 in Toronto is like -30 in Regina in terms of comfort) 

Millions of dollars for a 500 square foot glass shitbox. 

Congestion making the commute of many residents an ordeal lasting hours

Filthy polluted smelly Lake Ontario 

The homeless and druggie capital of Canada 

Huge gangs that can’t aim and kill innocent bystanders in public places 

Grey skies 8 months of the year 

Poverty capital of Canada due to unaffordable housing

Bedbug, roach, and rat problems throughout the city

Some great place Toronto is

Lets not forget the many wonderful neighbourhoods of Toronto such as:
Lawrence Heights AKA “the Jungle”, Regent Park, St James Town, Flemingdon Park, Jane and Finch, Malvern, Rexdale, Weston and Eglinton, Thorncliffe Park, all of East York. I have lived in Toronto and there is nowhere in the West that compares to those places for crime, poverty, and drugs. The police even fear to tread in those areas.

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“Sask people still believe gays are weeds needing to be dealt with the usual way .systemagically exterminated without exception

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“I agree fags are. scum needing to be shot dead today

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“very few nice round asses either

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“I sojourned in Saskatchewan for a time some years ago. While I have little use for either of their main cities, the countryside possesses a unique and often breathtaking beauty.

It is often oblique, you have to read between the sagebrush, as it were. For example, an hour or so south of Saskatoon you arrive in the Coteau Hills, some of the most majestic and unspoiled prairie in all of North America. You can find pockets of land that support native grasses, more or less undisturbed since before the Europeans descended upon it. With a little imagination you can picture a majestic herd of bison sweeping past in the distance. 

Drive northwest from Saskatoon you come to the mighty North Saskatchewan river and surrounding it some of the most fertile and productive farmland on Earth. From a grid road just west of the river valley travel north and after 20km or so you’ll find yourself on a rise. Spread out before you are verdant rolling fields as far as you can see, bordered by the river and the river valley. Drive a little further and you’ll come to an old Mennonite church, that has nurtured the Great Deere community for a hundred years. Next to the church stands a cemetery, the last resting place for some of Saskatchewan’s earliest pioneers. 

Drive north towards the provincial forest. You’ll find lakes of all size and description, towering trees, First Nations culture to explore and immerse yourself in. Take a tour through the Thickwood Hills, marvel at the rolling countryside, with new vistas at every turn, trees, meadows, all manner of wild flowers, and glorious fields of green, purple and yellow.


And everywhere you go the skies are wide open. You can turn your head in any direction and see the sky stretch all the way to the horizon. Add a few friendly clouds and it is one of nature’s true masterpieces. 


I’m from British Columbia, where it’s easy to find beauty. It unashamedly shows off. From my balcony in West End Vancouver I can see English Bay, Vancouver Island, and the North Shore Mountains. I’m a stone’s throw from Stanley Park. Like I said, easy.


But go to Saskatchewan and you have to really open your eyes to find the beauty of that province. It isn’t all showy and in your face like beautiful BC is. Saskatchewan’s beauty is much like its people, quiet and humble, and never full of themselves. It is there waiting for people to discover it. 


A little part of me misses Saskatchewan, so much so that I drive east in the car every June just to visit the prairies in summer. The winters are a shame, but the summers are spectacular.

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“I agree with all who dislike this damn flat alge filled pond of a province. The mainstay of every small town is a the general store that has no competition and to them that means they can jack the prices up to ” a kings feast”. The female teens only quest is to get preggy and the teen males are “wheres the beer dude!” . Half the forty something woman are single with children because the fathers were only passing through for work and the gold diggers with the big asses hang out at the bar when they smell money in town. Every year more lakes form in the fields and iI for one am glad for that. Ill be glad to get the hell out of this winter, black and white no color commy gossip filled province. For the ones who tell us who dont like it to leave, by all means we are going to so easily. We just thought we would see how the hillbillys lived and we came, we saw, and we left. Just do us a favour and keep your asses here though.

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“i will be glad the day i can see this fucking place in the rear view mirror

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“sub standard and proud of it

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“Gods I wish I wasn’t born here in all my 15 years I have only met one person who is intelligent enough cultural enough and not a douche bag to be considered my friend. And it takes allot of my strength to avoid being pushed into being a hick like the rest of my family from my dads racism and anti gay attitude to my aunts and uncles trying to push me into stuff like foot ball drinking and other hilk activity’s not saying all people who like football and drinking are hilks but hilks do love that sort of stuff. Can`t wait to move to British Columbia to get away from the douche bags here hell the museum in my town is unfortunately closed down.

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“Found out something surprising, While trying to find a job outside this god forsaken pit of bigots, you need to put an Alberta or BC address on resumes. Even living in this province stains you and employers just pass you by if the letters SK appear on a job app.

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“I agree that Saskatchewan is WAY behind in times. The people arent the brightest, But I will say the people are very friendly (or at least seem to be). I moved here from Ont. to a hillbilly town 2 hours west of s’toon. I came to work in the oil patch and I am making WAY more then i ever could in Ontario. Yes Ontario is a better place to live, however Sask has more oportunity to make a good income. So I just work here and send all my money back to the wife in Ont. where we plan on building a nice life for our kids. Milk the oil patch and im outta here!! Got 2 more years before i reach my goal though. 😦

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“sasks favorite question ya got your 1A? favorite answer put round up on it.

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“The whole province is dead for 8 months of the year. Mud, snow, dirt and desolation. If you want to prepare for the apocalypse and survival come on out to Kindersley.

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“Obviously the education system in Saskatchewan needs work as well!

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“I have to go to SK for three months soon for work. I am already disgusted by the province just by looking at rentals and the massive pile of bylaws. A few years ago when there nobody would pay 100k for a house in SK and now people think their crappy little basement is worth $1300? Not allowed to park an RV on your own front driveway? It is a socialist, backwards, inbred, micromanaged dump. I am also from Vancouver Island. It is a paradise compared to the frozen wasteland.

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I’ve lived in Saskatchewan for a few years now, having lived just about everywhere else before that. SK, in my humble opinion, is very backwards. The odd thing is that the ‘locals’ are rather proud of that. Everyone is related around here and (as was politely explained to me a few years back) nepotism is actually a good thing. After all, who’d want to hire a complete stranger when you can hire your cousin instead?


There is plenty of bigotry, racism and prejudice here. They try to bury it – hide it from the “ignorant” newcomers who (in their opinion) know nothing about nuthin’ anyway. If you aren’t family, or have a child who will marry a local at some point in the near future, forget about ever being accepted. 


As far as friends go, the local boys grew up isolated, went out and got a tractor and a combine, and spent all day and night in the field farming. While laudable to an extent, they never learned social skills – basic communication skills necessary to establish friendships with any fellow human that might have the annoying ability – or desire – for anything more than short, barely audible grunts about John Deere or the weather. Intelligence and knowledge are held in disdain. Ignorance rules supreme.


It’s depressing. It’s frustrating. And, I’m movin’ on! There is sooo much potential here, yet it’s wasted.


Heads up to anyone looking to moving to Saskabush! You aren’t welcome here Sure, they want your money. Granted they want you to buy their farm or house in town… Sure, they’ll say they want you and need you. But, you aren’t really welcome here. 


Saskatchewan has a highly inbred, xenophobic culture that has had years of isolation in which to fester and grow. They don’t see it and likely never will. Notice that all of the positive posts here are from born-and-in-bred locals. 


Weather and lack of trees and the flat, lonely prairie aside, it ain’t a pretty place to move to.The only true products of this province are gophers and knot-headed boys.

I remain anonymous for OBVIOUS reasons.

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“Oh the invisible man in the sky decided to post. Another sign of the past exerting itself out here get with the times.

As for your husband loving out here while fixing the roads, of course he will the roads dont get fixed hes not doing a damn thing

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“All the comments are true, negative or positive. True: most Saskatchewaners I have met are extremely uneducated, not that it bothers them or that they would ever notice it. True: basically not friendly. They stare at you (it freaked me out decades ago) to see if they knew you. Of course they didn’t because I’d only landed in the province a few weeks prior. But, God they STARE! And they were so proud of never having travelled east of Winnipeg.

30 years later, I have retired from a yay good career at a Crown Corp that I got entirely on my own. But family connections would have moved me higher. You can BET that nepotism is alive and well in Sask.

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“Just wanted to comment also about Regina’s Mosaic multicultural festival. I will NEVER go again to this unfriendly event. I took my mother 20 years ago and had the temerity to sit at someone’s “reserved” table. What the hype – meet new friends? Like Hell! They don’t want new friends. They just want their fat little buddies in their special tables. Never again.

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“check out the news story from Manor Fire chief and new citizen It really says a lot.

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“The only people who like it here have lived here there whole lives, everyone else knows better. You have the highest crime rate in the whole country (ok second this year but first almost every other one). No amount of ignorance can hide the truth, if this place is good then why so much crime, racism, and prejudice. The bottom line is that if no one with a decent education is willing to live here then your economy will suffer. Either this place will change or it will go belly up.

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“Their instead of there, my mistake, but I doubt anyone who has lived here their whole lives would even notice this, morons!!!!

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“Oh please enlighten us on Ass-scratch-ewans great history. I know its in the only province to show a negative population growth. They are a province with vast oil and gas reserves that the great NDP government failed to develop so they could keep those equalization payments coming. Cities overrun with natives on welfare, lowest population with the highest crime rate in Canada if its not bolted locked up or weigh 50lbs+ its gone.

So tell me a great sask history without using these words “Drunk/Drinking, Riders, Stoon”

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“The staring comment really hit a funny bone mostly because its all too true. I have lived here for 15 years but it was until 4 years ago when my son was old enough to join a hokey team did the stares stop.

If you are going to be welcomed in this strange and backward province, play hockey, play golf, or have kids that do.

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“I’ve been here 16 years and still get refered to as a transient.

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“Saskatchewan’s drunk driver rate is 2.5 times higher than the national average. Only the Northwest Territories and Yukon has higher rates. Given how few and far between RCMP detachments are in many parts of the province, you can be certain that even high numbers such as these are grossly understating the drunk driver culture that is everywhere denied and, even, encouraged.

Don’t even try to deny that last statement. Every small town’s financial lifeblood is the local bar… and no one walks to the bar! 

If you live in one of the small towns, never speak ill of a local or even so much as point out something odd or different about the way things are being done. The overriding rule is this: EVERYONE IS RELATED TO EVERYONE ELSE – sometimes 2 and 3 and more times over. To speak against one (that would include volunteering an option to their ideas or noticing things that could be improved) is to speak against family! “We” don’t speak against family here. 

I once asked a local if he was related to a particular family in town. His answer? “Not yet” (true story)

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“i was talking to local lad one day and he was telling me about a recent wedding. the bride used to be his cousin but now she is his auntie (another true story)

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A young couple were married in Southern Sask last year. Turns out they’re first cousins. When I asked someone if this was the wisest course they told me that it wasn’t a bad thing because then everyone will know who the in-laws are and there will be less chance of family feuds cropping up. Seems to be more common than not. (yet another true story)

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“I think the biggest problem here is how everyone becomes so offended so easily. You can’t hardly offer an opinion on something without having a local boy take offense because it insults family, family history of the local town.

That said, however, they won’t speak up and say something. NOOoooo. They act like 4-year-old spoiled brats with Aspergers and act it out behind your back rather than to your face.

I guess what I’m trying to say is this: You can’t reason with the unreasonable.

Either we ‘foreigners’ waste a lot of energy and fight it or we move on and leave the pigs to the S**t

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“To the moron who bashed Toronto, have you actually lived there? SK is much more impoverished than TO- this is a statistical fact. Grey skies for 8 months, are you serious? Simply not true. SK has bitter cold for 8 months, a fact.

You are obviously an idiot, just like everyone else who has defended SK on this post.

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“Here we go again ,more new taxes for garbage recycling ,sgi rates going up again,power rates going up again, water and sewer rates up again,city wants to inspect my home [not going to happen] so they can raise my property taxes,they will need to bring their own body bags, met one of these lying kniving fuckers before,yet there is never any more money in my pocket. Bound to retire on welfare!

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“i work with a bunch of 45 and 50 year old women and their biggest ha ha of the week is getting drunk. as for never being anywhere or knowing anything, (one of them asked after hearing about someone catching a fish) “do those kind of fish have bones”. she also thought all white cheese was old cheese. my god go past calgary some time.

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“If your arguments are not supported by facts then you are probably dumb, sadly stupid people don’t realize this. Go back to your inbred backwards way of life. If you disagree with facts then you are a moron, it’s not a matter of whether you agree with someone its a matter of whether your opinions are supported by facts. Every single person who has defended SK has made an argument that can be disproven with FACTS. But ignorant little children don’t care about this, they resort to saying Oh well you making an argument is exactly the same as …. (something that does not have anything to do with what they said. IN SK DO MOST PEOPLE THINK LIKE CHILDREN, AND HAVE NO APPRECIATION FOR THE TRUTH.

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“IF YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN OUTSIDE OF YOUR PROVINCE AND DONT KNOW HOW TO THINK FOR YOURSELF THEN KEEP YOUR STUPID FUCKING MOUTH SHUT. YOU WOULD NOT STAND A CHANCE ANYWHERE ELSE!!!! SO STAY IN YOUR SHIT HOLE YOU DUMB FUCK. PEOPLE FROM SK ARE BLACK LISTED IN MANY PLACES IN CANADA. DID YOU KNOW THAT, ASSHOLES!!!!!

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“Almost everyone that I met in SK was childish and two faced. They made ridiculous arguments and were very ignorant. Many of them would judge you using flawed arguments. I had two different people try to tell me that I was retarded in the period of one week. One told me that he thought this based upon the way I was looking through my bag, the other said it was based upon my physical appearance. I have an IQ of 168 and a PhD in chemistry. Neither one of these people had even graduated university. This is SK; ignorant, hypocritical, two-faced hicks. Every defence of SK on this page is easily disproven using logic and facts; things that most of the people that I met in SK don’t understand. ENJOY YOUR SHIT HOLE YOU FUCKING RETARDS

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“U of R is a joke,

One professor stole her husbands’ identity and taught engineering U of R for almost three years before being caught. Don’t you think that the people who interviewed her would have realized that she knew nothing. How in the world does someone who has no qualifications or experience get away with teaching in a university for almost three years!!! I’ll tell you how- many of her colleagues must have a poor understanding of engineering. It took repeated complaints from students to force a review which resulted in her resignation in 2001, and ultimately, her arrest.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/former-u-of-r-professor-arrested-1.282739

Did you know that improper blood tests were performed at the kinesiology department of U of R from 2006 up until 2012, and that nearly 270 people were potentially exposed to other peoples’ blood. How the hell does this happen at a university for six years straight. I’ll tell you how- the people performing the blood work and their supervisors were TOTALLY incompetent.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/possible-blood-contamination-at-university-of-regina-1.1932091

How about the fact that the administration paid two IT employees over 100 thousand dollars for overtime that they did not work. This occurred over a period of 11 years, and now the administration is refusing to answer key questions with regards to this misappropriation. What a blatant example of corruption.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/u-of-r-employees-paid-more-than-100k-for-unearned-overtime-1.1856651 

I have never heard of any of these kinds of things happening at any other university in Canada, let alone having all of them happen at the same place. U of R is a corrupt nepotistic joke, it is a reflection of SK in general.

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“I cannot agree on people’s comments regarding Regina. When you have lived, visited, taken trips to REAL cities (all over the world) you immediately come to the realization. Regina, Sask to be exact, is nothing but the toilet bowl of Canada. It’s trying to make something out of nothing. Regina will never compete with any actually city in Canada. Every year, Regina is #1 for crime in Canada. What about Pamela Wallin (from Wadena, SK) stealing $$$ from taxpayers. How about the UofR, the clown university or Canada. What about the “other” university across the street having millions stolen or misplaced and still continuously being funded by the Government. How about the new million dollar football stadium that is unnecessary. Do the taxpayers realize its a waist of money and that they will be paying for this by having their taxes raised for the next generations? Do they not realize that “someone” is taking a HUGE payoff with this project? Who is responsible for this deal for the stadium. How about the land development in Harbour Landing? Who’s land did it belong to? Could be a “former” mayor wanting a payoff of some sorts?

Saskatchewan is a corrupt province. What’s up with the HUGE house price market? WTF??? This is only Regina, not Toronto or Vancouver. Who woke up one day and decided that we are the new East or West of Canada. There was a time when big movie productions were filmed in Saskatchewan. Why did the province kill that. What was the last big production Sask has had. That’s right, Corner Gas, and they were smart to realize Sask is a dead end and killed the show. What does Saskatchewan have for an economy? Potash and the Oil Refinery. Can we say POLLUTION!!! It’s all about the $$$ and not about the environment or the health of the people. Do you not see how much smoke goes up from the upgrader? Take a visit during the winter and see the gasses and smoke it releases in the air. Is that nice to breath? Do you know what the Regina Thunder Junior Football practice field used to be? Not only is is beside the upgrader, it used to be the former city dump. Everything is wrong with this city. Why do we still have train tracks on our busy city street? Why am I waiting during rush hour on Albert street, or Park street, for the train go go by.

Its a province still stuck in the past, thinking its a big time player. If Regina was a bit time city, lets get some over/under passes and do this city the right way. It must be better to spend money on a stadium, art projects (like the one across for the airport on Lewvan and Regina Ave) because this is more important. Or on a new Regina logo that cost taxpayes unwanted money. Sask residents are like cattle with the blinder on, heading to the slaughter house. Its time to open your eyes and realize what is happening.

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“The 2 faces of people out here and the labeling is so true. People dont like conflict out here unless its 2-3 vs 1, and they will lie and manipulate to get that advantage. Got a job out here and within the first few hours the supervisor was telling me horrible things about the people under him, and whenever the opportunity came up he would start shit talking them. Work environments out here are extremely toxic.


Now that ive been out of that job trying to get back into Alberta could not get an interview for anything. Changed my address to my brothers in alberta boom 2 interviews in the first week, this province is so far behind on standards employers outside of this province dont even want the hassle of having to beat the half-assed work ethic out of sask residents.

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“Check this one out:

Toddler puts hands into pail with dirty needles in Saskatchewan hospital

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/saskatchewan-health-regions-checking-used-needle-protocols-child-222059181.html 

Yet another person who has potentially been exposed to HIV because of the supreme ignorance of those who do blood work in SK. Keep in mind that 270 people were potentially infected over a period of six years while undergoing blood work at U of R.

THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN ANYWHERE ELSE IN CANADA IN THIS DAY AND AGE!!!!!!!!! 

Most of the people that I met in SK thought that they knew everything- but were actually very ignorant.

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“Dude , I highly Doubt you lived in every Province in Canada to make that judgement. As someone who has I can tell you there are far worse places to be in , count your blessings , save your money & go back where you came from. Im sure the people there will love you.

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“I follow the news, I know for a fact that these scandals do not happen anywhere else in Canada. And by the way I have already moved, I am much happier- the people are much nicer.

You can stay in your shit hole with your joke of an education/healthcare system you ignorant bastard.

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“I can’t help.But notice that you complain of Saskatchewan being full of aboriginals and old people in one sentence, then complain of it being full of racists in the next. Seems a little like the pot calling the kettle black to me.

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“Dont take any jobs in sask, once you have that black mark on your work record the only province youll ever work in again is sask

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“Why settle for this province when there is much better out there. If Brock Lesnar wants to move to this province, EVERYONE should get the heck out of there STAT!

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“The worst part is the roughrider fans there all fucking retarded the money wasted on this shitty team is unreal give me a break you stupid fucking losers along with the players who think there so good u suck shit along with the outrageous gas and power rates and dont even get me started on this diesel shortage bullshit fukin coop cocksuckers watch the fuk out!


The land of the dumb and poor and proud of it. News cast consist of 8 minutes of rushed local news so that they can get to what really matters, the RIDERS. Wages are low just the way they like it, just happy to work for greedy selfish millionaires who think their employee’s are indespensible labourer’s who’s live’s don’t matter.

The people are gossipy two faced backstabbers. Nepotism thrive’s here. Anti social people, just like the movie Winter’s Bone, “born n bred”. I thought these people only existed in movie’s like “Deliverance”.

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“Just stumbled on this site! Have read every post and just roared with laughter! What struck me funny was how the posters claiming to have high IQs, education and the most worldly, used the most vulgar and degrading language! A true showing of class and maturity. Hilarious!

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“There is a massive group of people in Saskatchewan; mainly in Regina and surrounding areas that is comprised mostly of First Nations people who take great pleasure in being “raunched out” as one woman called it.They shout,yell,stare,glare,verbally abuse and ridicule people they see in public.They are drunks,druggies and likely involved in gangs and you see them everywhere in Regina. They are oversensitive to any look or response they get from strangers yet,they stare endlessly in hopes of catching only a mere glimmer of a response from someone, usually a white person. They harass,bully, and intimidate other people, especially white people who they are very angry at and hate very much. So, this racism you hear about, it’s a two way street; it’s not just white people being unfair to other races. Alot of aboriginals really hate white people here and they go out of their way to let white people know what they think and really make life miserable for certain white people who just want to get on with their lives without these creeps intruding and abusing them whenever they go out in public.

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“i hope at least one person gets out of this hell hole for christmas

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“Hate Saskatchewan? dont let the door hit you in the ass on your way out of the province.

People here are much friendler than those in Vancouver where I lived for 30 years.

I have met as many ignorant backwards bumpkins in other provinces as here.

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“I cannot believe the how backwards people are here in this province. I am a professional engineer from Nova Scotia. I came here 2 years ago to do follow up work for a client that had a geothermal system put in. The people that installed it did it 100% wrong, after further investigation they did not have qualified people to do this, but misled the client that they did. Long story short they call themselves professionals in this province and fall very far from it. I was also embarrassed by so called engineers in saskatchewan(studied and given degrees in this province)were under educated ignorant slugs and do not adhere to national code and industry standards, truly embarrassing, to think they call themselves professionals, bloody sad.

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“Only good thing about that province is the view from the rear view mirror. Over priced cost of living, crappy roads, over taxed, people under eduacted(farmer bumpkin types)only news is local news(they are the world) which explains the hate for people out of province. Half of them think canada ends at the quebec border, which proves the theory, that the education system is flawed. High crime,angry natives, retarded drivers and I see from one post we have a bumpkin defending next of kin in this post, sad to think it has a life in this lifeless boring province. Thank god I left before they converted me to a dumb hick.

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“DUH , I paid 400K for my house worth 120K I am a smart saskatchewanner,DUH I pay 1.5K a month for 800 square foot apartment, DUH,I pay high taxes to NOT HAVE my street plowed after a snow storm,DUH,I am proud of it and the most important DUH, I pay 35 Bucks for a 12 inch pizza and think its just so the right thing, DUH, brainwashed mental midgets. Cant wait for the housing market to crash and teach those redneck retards what the real truth is. Oh ya, there is no boom in saskatchewan but there will be a boom when they’re sad jaws hit the deck when the housing market falls.LOL.

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“Agree 110%…

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“there is no pride in workmanship what so ever. the trades are a joke

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here we go again the over paid fucks think we need to pay more taxes again,sewer,water power ,school,and continue to play a shell game with the money. i never get more money to make up for this bullshit. they need their wages cut and their hands chopped off to put an end to this crap. fougeir can shove his stadium and his head up ass.

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“it seem that my last posted comment was removed by by people who want to hide the truth,or something mysteriously went wrong. firstly stoopid access communications ripoff crap tv,their retarded billboard at the top of my computer screen allways says – 27 brrr. change the temp or take it off ,shows how dumb you are. well here we go again more new taxes up again,power ,natural gas ,water ,sewer ,property taxes ,automobile fuel,even talk about paying for garbage now-like we havent paid for it 3 times allready,school taxes-to pay for roads ,what an amazing shell game they play with the money they take from us. the shell game should be an olympic sport,they would surley win the GOLD METAL.shit on tax collectors ,governmet ,city ,cops and parking enforcement,fuck you.anyway i bought a place away from here off the grid setup no bills cheap living.smash the tax dagger because it will keep finding your back!! the mayor says nobody takes into consideration if you can afford to pay,you know they dont care!

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“This may just be the best blog ever made……i need a tissue….ah man….

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“Your ignorant stupid cunt sucking fucks of Saskatchewan, “if you dont like it leave , Saskatchewan is the greatest place on earth” HA!You are the problem. Your ok with it being complete shit. Your are to fucking ignorant to realize what a shithole you live in. The I’m not racist, I just hate indians and foreigners province. The only reason you think its great is because your a cock sucking fuck tard like the rest of em and thats where cock sucking retarded fuck faces like you live. BURN IN HELL YOU REDNECK FUCKS! I didnt like it and I did leave. You think its ok to be a dumb white trash piece of shit fuckin ingnorant cock sucking asshole shit. The people of Saskatchewan are the dumbest, rudest meanest fucking cunts I have ever met,next to Albertans…FUCK YOU!

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“In case you haven’t noticed, this is a I HATE SASKATCHEWAN blog. You don’t like this blog, then you leave.

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“Hahaha this comments are really funny, I have lived here for almost 3 years now. Previously i have lived in a country where there is 364 days of sunshine, where there is 19 million living in the capital city and a lot of stuff to do. Living in a warmer, active and big city allows you to enjoy life more. Theres a lot of people to meet, a lot of activities to join and a lot of opportunities to learn more things. What i have notice in SK is the lacking of these 3 important things, adequate population, adequate warmer weather and more acceptance of diversity. This leads to a Boring, Damp and Depressed people. Lets face it, SK is a young growing province and has a lot to learn, I moved here to follow my wife and now after 3 years im seriously thinking about moving out to somewhere else. I dont want to spend the rest of my life shovelling snow 7 to 8 months a year lol

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“Is it that bad? Was thinking of coming to Saskatchewan. This blog has very important information. I ll think up some more!

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“No Daylight savings is the only thing I like about saskatchewan, other than that it’s 10 months of winter and 2 months of bad hockey.

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“I moved here in August 2013 for a job. The winter was terrible-but this is Canada, so I expected that. I was bullied at my job and stood up for myself and then was let go for no reason. This was in January. So My boss fucked me over and had a smirk grin. I went threw 3 jobs while living there. See I’m a creative person with a personality. That scares the shit out of people here. I’m educated and would debate with people at these jobs. The people here are ass backwards uneducated racist fucks. Told one person that I had dated a black girl and the guy freaked drooping the ‘n’ bomb while regarding my ex.


People here want the same, not different. I have been here under a year and have found no one that I would call a friend. Yes, the roads are terrible, people are not friendly to outsiders, people are rude, bad drivers, back stabbers, ugly and fat. 


I’m from Ontario and I’m moving back once my lease is up in the fall. I can’t wait. I will never come to this terrible province again. What Sask needs is a shit load of napalm. If you enjoy the green, good luck finding it! But if you drink then this province is for you! 

All that being said, I did have some great adventures here… Being an hr or so outside Saskatoon and seeing the northern lights… Never seen them so bright! Smoking a spliff in the middle of a field in the prairies at dusk in autumn… Surreal… Seeing bison up close… Grasslands National Park… 

But besides that… It was horrible. It’s like being in prison right now-counting down the days till I’m free.

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“Fucking imbreds everywhere…

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“Only when “insulting” Saskatchewan would you get some many people taking offence. Why they love that piece of shit province so much, I’ll never understand….

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“Saskathewan seems friendly at first then it dawns on you a lot of people are all negative and there are lots of drunks. The people are very cheap and are not shy at trying to buy something and not paying much for it. People are trapped as they are all related through marriage with jobs and business awarded to family members, they cannot divorce. Do not start a business if you are not from here.

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“I live in rural sask due to my job. I find it very disturbing that many people have noticed what I have. Why does the provincial hobby in this place seem to be getting drunk? Why? Every year in this town there is an impaired causing death. Every year the kids are told that drinking and driving is dangerous. Every year we are expected to think that it’s a tragedy that some kid died in a booze cruising failure. I submit that a kid in this day and age, drinking and driving that kills himself is not a tragedy… It is some much needed chlorine in the gene pool. Seriously if you can’t take in the simple message that drink + drive = death then you weren’t worth the air you were wasting anyway. Please kill yourself (and only yourself) in a booze fuelled vehicle roll over before passing your stupidity on to another generation. And it is generational here! A man in his 40’s told his son in front of me that it was ok to drive drunk as long as he went slow and took the back roads. WTF! I have encountered some stupid things in small towns in other provinces but not this bit of “wisdom.”


This is also the first place that I have ever lived that higher education is ridiculed. When my wife and I were new here we were making some acquaintances. When these acquaintances found out that not only did I have a degree, but my wife held several…people stopped talking to us. I thought maybe we had talked down to someone, until I heard a whole table of people at a local coffee shop making fun of the one and only girl in town going university from high school. I’m glad they were talking behind her back, because a true tragedy would have been that girl being too intimidated to go do something more challenging than be a hair dresser or a brood mare for some alcoholic farmer for the rest of her life. 

Before you accuse me of negativity, I was optimistic about Sask before coming here. No place is perfect but this is neverland and the people here need to grow up.

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“I wish there was a way to post pictures on this site. I feel that words sometime cant express how ugly the shit hole is. Pictures on the other hand make it obvious.

Just so people know property values went up here just like in Newfoundland and other somewhat but not near as shitty places. It has nothing to do with wages and everything to do with interrest rates at record lows. So stop with Saskataarogance already. No one actually wants to live here that has been somewhere else. I get that the immigrants flock here because compared to watching your family be murdered or starving to death its great. Ignorance is very key and I cant stress this point enough, in living here. 

I was recently in NYC, had the time of my life. Very safe there lots of culture amd individual business ownership and choice. They didnt have a faceless corporate big box stores like we have here that make every city look the same. People were more friendly amd the weather was great. Were still freezing our asses of in this shit whole. I met some other people from Regina and P.A on the plane they said it was safer than there hometowns in sasky. There was one igonorant hick that didnt like his trip, he wouldnt be back he said, too busy. He wore a roughrider hat like anybody gave a shit about the roughriders. Lol.


We flew into a pathetic little airport and headed out to the hwy to drive accross this godforsaken place. After about an hr of driving I couldnt even see out my window the bugs literally covered my vehicle. We all know bugs are attracted to shit, so thats why there is so many is sasky. I was very depressed to be back. 


You people that actually think you enjoy this place have to be either ignorant or dumb. There is a whole world out there for you to see, do yourself and future generations of your family a favor and get out of here. Years of freezing your ass off combined with your house doubling for no real reason has combined for a perfect cocktail of arrogance and ignorance. Like a fly in shit! Sask will never be Alberta or even Manitoba its geographically fucked unless you move the province. I hate Saskathewan!

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“They have to pay people more to live here, haha. No one cares about the roughriders. These morons are builing a $750,000,000 football stadium in a place with 1,000,000 people, meanwhile they close down hospitals and the infastructure is crippled everywhere, backwards fucks. The summers are so short, its fuckin almost July and we have only been over 25 twice maybe. House prices are crazy, property taxes compared to most of Canada are insane here. Having to drive hrs to get anywhere or flying hrs to get anywhere is exoensive too. Warming up your vehilce for 8 months of the year is costly, so is plugging it in. So tired of spending money washing the millions of bugs off my vehicle everytime i drive anywhere. Just so people know sask is far from unique, the states is filled with endless states that look like us topography wise. The only things that make us unique are terrible qualities. Like taxes, crime, weather, isolation, ignorance, negativity, bugs, no major cities, etc. Nothing to be proud of. You cant make something outta nothing.

Dont do it, where are you from? If your from a war torn region of the globe or somewhere that you are starving than by all means. Other than that forget it.

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“No one uses umbrellas there, lol. Not because it doesnt rain, but because no one walks there. They all drive around culturlessly to big box stores in cookie cutter chain developments. Fattest province in Canada!

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“Will see how the highest crime rate in Canada does for you in shit hole saskatchewan. Unless you have been in -35 for 8 months of the year with another 2 1/2 months shouldering that with mud from melting snow and a decent amount of rain, you cant say shit. Id rather live by cake eaters than savages wanting to rob you and beat you and take your cheques. You are fucking idiot, a giagantic one, i think your just a troll from saskatchewan trying to pretend you come from b.c.

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“Well bring some bug spray and a knife, lol. Its funny that you referred to your location as here, meaning in sask, but you hadnt left yet. I smell a troll from sask trying to bolster that shit hole province standing on this site.

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“Are you mental man? We have the worst carbon foot print per capita. Sure we got a bunch of emptyness to send it all into so we dont realize it. They have public transport in toronto called a subway. Alot of them live in energy efficient dwelling called skyscrapers. They walk to places, which creates culture. We drive cultureless around one person to a car from one faceless big box development to another being fat. Fattest province in canada, only places like arkansas and virginia are fatter, lol. We pollute like crazy, just cuz there is very little of us shouldnt put us on a high horse. There is very little of us cuz its sucks here, otherwise there would be a lot of us. Ya its humid as fuck there cuz if you live beside the great lakes thats what happens. -5 there is no where near -30 here you moron. My skin flakes off for 8 months of the year cuz its so fuckin dry. We have more crime problems per capita and its getting worse here native gangs galore man. Welfare capital of canada. Fucksakes man or you retarded?

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“The weather here is disastrous. we go through a second brutal winter, and when summer finally comes, its not even summer, its more like spring, raining for days and extreme winds. some ppl say summer is great here. no. its not.we cant even enjoy summer with the loads of mosquito’s and rain for days.

Even if the film tax credit came back, goodluck film makers. the weather would ruin it for you in Saskatchewan.

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“Just dropped $20 washing the bugs off my truck. Can we please have so more mosquitos!

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“Two season in Saskatchewan Winter and Mosquitos!

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“Thank God I’m not the only one. I did it to myself however. After living and working most of my life in Calgary I took early retirement and decided to buy a house in Shaunavon SK. Never, ever move to a place where housing is the lowest in the country. Ever. At 74 I can’t face another move, so here I’ll die. That will please most of the good citizens here. Kind of looking forward to it myself.


These are the criteria for life in such a place; love hockey (I don’t); love country music (I don’t); love pick up trucks, the noisier the better (I don’t); love cowboy culture and ball caps and poisoning the soil and highways designed to put one to sleep. And stock up on sleeping pills, lots of them, if you can find a Doctor that is. Bye bye.

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“Yup another 100mph wind today. Havent hit +30 yet or even swam in the lake(slough by b.c standards), water is too cold especially when the air is cool. An insane amount of mosquitos and horse flies, so I almost prefer the tornado like winds everyday. Rainfall is insane more than interior b.c so far. B.c on the other hand is hitting +30 almost daily with bluebird days all the time. Its unsettled rain and wind in shitty sask. I remember when we had hot dry summers years ago, it was the only thing decent about this province. Now the plqce is a swamp and filled with even mpre bugs than before. What a shit hole, funny website though!!

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“I came to Saskatchewan from the Maritimes thinking I was going to get some great work experience, instead I got some great insight as to why there is such high unemployment rates back home; Because people there work when they are at work. It takes 10 Saskatchewan people to do the job of 1 Maritimer.

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“1. At 12:00 I eat LUNCH, not dinner.

2. if I’m cold I’ll wear a hoodie, not a bunny hug. 
3. “You betcha” isn’t an appropriate response to “you’re welcome.” Actually, it’s not a real response to anything, yet people in Saskatchewan can use it a hundred times a minute.
4. The laziest RCMP officers in the universe work in Saskatchewan (officer: do you know who damaged your vehicle? me: well I have a good idea but that’s why I came to you. It’s one of two people. Officer: well if you don’t know, we can’t help you). 
5. I drink coffee when I drive, not road beer. 
6. And speaking of beer, there’s a massive selection out there, beyond Bud Light and Pilsner. 
7. What’s up with ranch dressing on everything? 
8. It’s 2014 and there are still no recycling programs in rural areas. 
9. Every year rotates on a farmer schedule and ever year is the. exact. same. People are just waiting instead of living. 
10. The fields go on forever but believe it or not, there is actual life beyond them.

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“I just moved to SK and mostly like it. The one bone I have to pick is that when I tell people where I’m from (Ontario) their eyes just shut down a little. I can be in the middle of a great conversation and then where-you-come-from will come up, and as soon as I tell them, the light flicks out behind their eyes and suddenly I’m not worth knowing. I almost want to lie about where I’m from so I don’t have to deal with seeing this happen again and again.

It doesn’t happen all the time, but I would say that it DOES happen at least a third of the time. Kind of sad really. I want to see and expect the best from Saskatchewaners, why can’t they return the favour? 

I guess there will be prejudice everywhere and there is an idea that Ontarians are assholes (whether that’s true or not). That said, I have met some amazing people here. It is the people which make this province great. You need to approach them with a positive attitude. For the most part they are so amazingly inclusive and welcoming.

I just wish that where I came from wasn’t such a conversational hindrance.

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“I couldn’t agree more. The flat out (no pun intended) ignorance of the majority of the people here is appalling. They see someone who doesn’t have a partial mullet, even remotely physically fit or show any interest in health or PILSNER beer in their hand and they’re immediately written off as a pompous big city snob. The amount I noticed that people gossip about one another here is quite an annoyance. They don’t even wait until you have fully turned around before they’re clucking back and forth. I really only said clucking because I picture them as birds. Goosenecking in everyone else’s business because I guess they get bored of drinking, fighting each other and fads that were old 2 years ago. Skinny little legs big giant ass as hips and skinny little upper bodies. Speaking of skinny legs flat ass all gut Natives take pride in their ability to act like hoodrats or black gangsters down south. When did it become a status symbol to intentionally sound uneducated when you speak.*hang your tongue out like a dog when you say this* aaaaaahhhhhzzziiiifff Native pride my ass every damn one is metis and they know it!! Good for you, you know 5 words in Cree. Have some respect aaaahhhhhhh they beat on white kids for disrespecting their culture when the most they know was native studies in school. From what I’ve seen they actually practice every last one of their traditions backwards.

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“I have lived in BC, Alberta, Quebec, Ontario and in Europe for 5 years. All total in about 12 cities.

I was born in Regina, it at one time was affordable and not so bad. Lately the crime rate is the worst per capita in Canada, native gangs rape, rob and pillage at will. Police here are lazy useless sacks of shit who set up radar traps to catch you heading out on the highway in the 70 -100 zone. they should concentrate on real crime namely natives! 

Housing what a joke it costs more here than Ontario for a shack made of toxic MDF that is 800 sq feet. There is land as far as the eye can see but this does not stop developers from making subdivisions with streets that are one lane, you either park in your driveway or on your lawn your choice. The winters suck and the wind blows 358 days a year. The roads are shit and the taxes are totally outrageous. The former mayor Pat Fiasco left the city bankrupt. But not before announcing the new rider stadium. total cost 200 mill no wait 245 mill Hmmm! I bet it will go to 300 million for retards to get hammered puke and most likely not remember the game. All this and the stadium has no more capacity than the old one, worse parking , no roof and it cannot be used for anything else. Now do you really need to ask why the roads are shit? Why the Taxes are a joke? 

As for the people yes they are fat classes slobs! If it was not for family this would be the last place I would ever live. I would move to Haiti before Regina. There the crime would be the same but its warmer.

This is Canada’s Toilet Bowl. The woman are all mostly whores that look like sausages in their LuLu lemons. 

Your only hope is to find a way out of this god for saken shithole.

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“LOL! Wow I thought I was in the minority, due to my job I was transferred here seven years ago. I have lived in 7 provinces and the only bigger shithole is Manitoba. People here are so backward and dumb its almost hard to believe. They take it up the ass from both civic and provincial governments and have nothing to say about it. There are two hospitals both are jammed packed with fat people and natives, have no parking and you better be prepared to spend the night waiting. Don’t forget Old Tommy he was the Father of medicare. They close the Plains Health center and make it into Siast WTF? The people here are the fattest, dumbest most backstabbing lowlife living parasites you will ever meet.They know one thing getting drunk and wasted on drugs, this mostly to survive the 8 months of winter. They fix the roads with a shovel full of ashphalt and never clear the streets in winter so you need a wheel alignment twice a year. There is not one good restaurant in the city they are all greek or chinese owned how do you spell ecoli? People here are the cheapest bastards alive and they will gladly fuck you out of lunch or anything else they can take.

Anyone planning to move here my advise don’t even think about it, you would be better off living in Afghanistan, there death would come quickly!

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“Too bAD all coments arent being published on this site .selectivey many are being left out. To hide the truth about this tax trap

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“total fucktards

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“Living in Alberta and having gone to Saskatchewan a few times, I can honestly say that people from this Province are the epitome of scumbag.

They are the trailer park trash, pieces of garbage, disrespectful, always ready for a fist fight, only care about themselves.
They are worst then pawn scum!!!!!

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“Oh please dont be shy from where you came from. People in sasky feal threatened by anyone that comes from pretty much anywhere that isnt here. Its like they get defensive and hold it against you just because you happen to hail from somewhere more cultured or morr beautiful. They seem to think that only their properties have doubled, which feeds the newest sasktachewan trait, arrogance. They dont travel to anywhere other than, Edmonton, Las Vegas and Mexico. That means knowledge is limited as to what is happening anywhere or how those people are actually going about their day to day lives. That insures you have a vast majority of ignorant people that think their the envy of the world. So dont feel bad just leave before you get someone pregnant or get prenant, then you will be stuck in saskatchewan.

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“I couldn’t agree more with this article. Everyone here is a conservative hillbilly who thinks life is about pilsner and lifted Ford trucks. it’s just a bunch of anti-progressive hicks who are to culturally stuck where they are right now and don’t want to try and get with the rest of the world. The subject of gay marriage here reminds me of 1915 Alabama. God forbid you even mention the word gay around here or some 15 year old ‘farm boy’ won’t hesitate to call you a queer in a public social setting. No one here knows how to act like a human being and I have lived here for four years and still wonder why I don’t move.

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“Regina is a second rate backwater sh**hole of a place. It’s built on a lake bottom swamp. Every road, sidewalk, curb is cracked, broken or full of big heaves and holes.

The weather is extreme….. extremely cold, extremely windy or extremely hot. In any case, its always dirty and uncomfortable. 

They’re building a new stadium for their beloved football team that is going to cost taxpayers 2.5 million per home game for the next 25 years. The new stadium has 400 fewer seats than the old one has. Did anyone do the math on at that one? 

Houses here cost about double what they’re worth. Every jackass with a hammer calls himself a tradesman and/or home builder. 

There’s a nouveau riche class here too. It’s like Duck dynasty meets Housewives of New York.

If you don’t have a high paying job here, there’s almost no reason to live here. It is second rate in almost every regard… possibly even lower than that.

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“Found this post super late in the game, but my thoughts are the same in 2015. I came here for a few months of work. How is it possible to feel so uninspired here? Saskatchewan is BORING as heck, lacks any culture and there is literally nothing to do. Transit here is also HORRIBLE. by the way, I’m in Regina. I’ve been told Saskatoon is a bit better…but even I don’t have the motivation in going.

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“5th year in hell. I use to say Saskatchewan isnt the a$$hole of Canada, but u can smell it from there. Fail. It is.

The highways are as smooth and peaceful as whitewater riverbeds, with Sgi-not-responsible red signs put up in liu of repairs. Dont catch cancer here, anything before stage 4 is not detectable in sk. And the red road hazard signs … dont mean a thing. 30 percent of the time the road is fine. No signs? Keep your eyes peeled for front-end killer potholes. Stay away from sk – go through the states to avoid it.

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“It’s now a year later. And I’m thrilled to be leaving this ass backwards province.

Here’s why:

Racism: I’m white. And I have never seen a city (Saskatoon) so clearly divided by race (in Canada) literally this community has used a river as natural boundary between Europeans and Indians. Having always been a current events type person I was appalled by the “starlight tours” of a decade ago. As a student at the time with bright rose coloured glasses I was sure at the time the city would rally and come together.I was more appalled when I came here 10 years after the fact to find a blantantly racist and one of the most hostile police/community relations anywhere I’ve ever been. The economic gap in Saskatoon is so striking. But what I’ve come to learn is that Saskatoon is a microcosm of the entire province. The cities inhabitants do not venture far from their neighborhood. I would bet their are people on the university side of the bridge who have never been west of Midtown Plaza and vice versa. And why would they? The tension is palpable here.. Tied closely in with racism is the kind of nepotism in practice the rest of the progressive world did away with in 1980. I heard a radio ad once.. Said “Saskatchewan was built on merit” should have said “was built by the so and so family and whomever family. The rest of you don’t matter.” 

I had over the course of a year to travel around the province. Though I did not have the occasion to stay long… I can rattle off a list of towns I spent time in. All much the same

Drivers roads etc: For a province with an alleged collective slant the public infrastructure here is in the poorest of conditions bar none except Quebec. The mob over ran the construction industry there… Whats your excuse SK?? It’s been covered here in this blog numerous times.. Sk drivers are dangerous. Plain and simple. Can’t call it aggressive, can’t call it stupid. You have to drive to do anything here so its not inexperience… It’s just plain dangerous. City, rural or highway. Doesn’t matter. If you’re not from here and will be doing a lot of driving bring your A game. And forget about public transit. It doesn’t exist as far as the rest of Canada would recognize it. For a “major” urban centers like stoon or Regina… Transit is comparable to a city of 45,000 in Ontario. Which brings me to a final point in this category taxes and investment. Lots of tax. No investment. You know exactly what that means the second you cross the AB/SK or MB/SK border on a highway. 

Culture/Arts: Saskatoon makes a great effort I thought. But in vain. It doesn’t exist much here. Which is too bad. Noticeable though if you are used to regular outings to galleries, performances etc. A telling sign of this may be that AM radio is strong in Saskatchewan… Saturated with the dated, boorish and dull right wing yammerings of one man day in and day out Monday to Friday for hours on end. Fortunately for the one time constituents of this omnipotent radio voice, they wised to the hot air and booted his ass out of real political work and delegated him back to the domain of AM entertainment where less damage can be done.

On first blush its a quaint province. There is little rat race here (the race is fixed and they have accepted that) in fact there is little of much here. And don’t buy into the agriculture hype, its insignificant with the exception of one or two cereals, and is totally non competitive without massive subsidies… 

If you’re thinking of SK for small business, don’t. If you’re thinking SK fot quality family life don’t. Unless your generational or can claim some kind of ancestry to the province.

If your employer is begging you to come to the.province because they cannot retain any talent or skill in the region. Take a hefty incentive, define the time period and plan your exit strategy the moment you arrive

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“I live in Sask and I DID like it here for a little while, but then I started to realize the whole province has a serious problem of delusional importance. The resources available here allow the EXTREMELY under educated to keep half decent jobs and make an alright living. The hardest part about getting a good job in Sask is, YOU HAVE TO LIVE HERE! and trust me, it’s 100% not worth it, unless you don’t have a brain between your ears, then you’ll probably love it here. I was born here and enjoy some parts of it (the scenery and the hunting)but it is the definition of hick, literally everywhere in the province and is really the saddest part of the country.

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“LOL, first read all the anti-Saskatchewan comments. Then read all the pro-Saskatchewan comments. It won’t take long to realize how true the anti comments are, with the pro comments outright proving every single one of them when it comes to the people.

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“I fucking hate this place. I mean just fucking hate it! Some people love it, good for them. I have had nothing but a fucking hassle from every aspect from this place. It’s not the land, I can handle that. It’s the god damn people! I’m not from here and it’s VERY common that if you’re not from Sask the friends you make in Sask will not be from Sask. You people like to think you’re open and warm to new people you’re not! I have NEVER lived anywhere where the people were so willing to stand in the way of someone else advancements! Sask has the mentality of a 5 year old that’s been spoiled. You’re all so fucking worried about making a god damn decision and accepting accountability that it bottle necks every other place dealing with Sask. It’s not caution, it’s fear!


Regina And Saskatoon are the dumbest fucking layouts I have EVER seen from any other city! For how much you pay in taxes especially land taxes! The roads should be god damn gold! (Except Preston crossing, the side with Canadian tire) The other side you people make look like cat puke! Who laid it out a 2 year old the was playing with leggo?

And what’s with the cost of land? You’re in a FUCKING dessert! THERE IS LAND EVERYWHERE! Why the fuck does it cost more then on Vancouver Island or ANYWHERE ELSE! there is literally nothing but dirt in every direction. 

Saskatoon Has 1,No spot teams 2, no zoo. (don’t try to call that a zoo! 3, no museum 4,No art gallery (a real one) 5, no strip bars .. There is just nothing! But it cost so god damn much! 1/2 the roads in the city are closed in the summer for repairs because there didn’t build them right the 1st or 2nd time! 


I have been from B.C to N.S and I can say by far Sask is the shittiest fucking place to live! 

As fro all you people that say (Then just leave) WE FUCKING WANT TO. Use your brain obviously something in standing in the way, Sask does that read above!

So we come here to vent. Don’t like it.. Then stop fucking reading!

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“Saskatchewan sucks, been here my whole life, 19 years, can’t wait to get out. It’s so damn depressing being here, probably no more fun here than in any of the three territories.

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“If you think the Urban Provinces are any better you are delusional. There is a lot of great to be had in Saskatchewan. This is from someone who wants to move back. The conservatism is an issue everywhere and you a compounding the issue by complaining about taxes when they are largely there to deter environmental destruction.

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“It’s as good an indication as any, as to why this shithole is a shithole. If you are from Saskatchewan just ignore the blog and go back to fucking your sister you toothless, drunk, assholes.

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“I’m SOOO glad this topic is open for discussion!!! God Bless you (creator of this blog)

I have NEVER had so much hate in my heart for a place as much as this city, the people and the mentality behind everything makes me damn sick to my stomach. 

The only people that are remotely normal are those who live in the city but travel a lot or people who have just came into the city and are not yet affected by this shit place just yet. Other than that God Damn everybody here is just damn weird and fucking SUCKS!!

Uneducated, racist, close-minded, judgmental fucks (I know this whole post is basically judging everyone BUT I have the right to do so after living in this shit hole for 15 fucking agonizing years.. correction** being fucking forced to live here because of school and low income coming in,, so I have the damn right to trash talk all you damn depressed peanut brains) fat people everywhere, men are pussies, women are all snakes, DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA lurking in every single damn corner, as soon as you feel like you’ve got shit on lock someone fucking finds a way to creep into your damn business and screw you over! WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK IS THAT ALL ABOUT!!?? Bullying behaviour is fucking installed in everybody’s damn brain,, I CAN NOT BELIEVE HOW RUDE AND RUTHLESS PEOPLE ARE IN THIS SHIT HOLE!! 

Give them the exact same treatment back and they fucking bitch or get so fucking angry with you. FOR REAL?? How in the hell does that remotely make any damn sense. I NEED AN ANSWER.. I’M SO DAMN ANNOYED WITH ALL YOU FAT BITCHES. I’M NOT KIDDING ANYONE. I WOULD VOMIT IN YOUR DAMN FACES IF IT WAS NOT ILLEGAL. 

Getting a decent job in this city is a damn conquest, how the fuck is it that hard to be a contributing factor to society?? All you want is to work, make money, and start doing shit. IS IT THAT DAMN HARD??? This is after 2 damn years of trying to fucking work! 2 years! Schools SUCK HERE! Would I raise my children in Saskashit?? HELL NO!! Having fun consists of parking your car in a lot and drinking beer next to it or inside it at 1AM in the morning being a COMPLETE fucking nuisance to society just in general you PIG FUCKS.. TRUCK DRIVING.. MOTORBIKE WHORES. I CAN’T STAND YOU FUCK UPS!! GO TO HELL AND JUST SIT THERE WHERE YOU BELONG! The restaurants are a DAMN joke, leisure and entertainment are supposed to get you hyped right? NOPE! NOT IN SASKATOON! If you’ve got a brain you’ll probably suffer so much.. curl up into a ball and want to basically die. NO JOKE!! 

How did I end up here you ask? Well.. I’d have to thank my uneducated father and my naive mother for making a such a silly decision of actually fucking coming to this shit hole of a city. Thank-you! I hope I enlighten some of you idiots that your city actually sucks ass and you need to change your damn ways because nobody actually has anything genuine to say about you idiots. I would rather live on an island in the middle of nowhere with a pack of wolves on the loose than in this shit hole city for one more day. BORING BORING BORING AND ABSOLUTELY DRAINING! Everyone needs a fucking smack across the face and a reality check, and these fat bitches in the city looking like dehydrated bulldogs 99% Of the time starting shit with EVERYBODY! Get your shit together or just pack your bags and get your one way ticket to hell because nobody can fucking stand your fat asses and your drama filled lives YOU PATHETIC FAT SHITS!! 


MISERABLE ASS LOSER MENTALITY DEATH LURKING WHORES!

THE MEN ARE CREEPS AND PUSSIES, ANNOYING THE HELL OUT OF ME! DO NOT FUCKING HONK YOUR LOUD ASS TRUCK WITH BALLS AT ME YOU SICK PIECES OF SHIT! GO TO THE DAMN BAR HOOK UP WITH A WHORE AND THEN GO HOME! 

UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! I LITERALLY WANT TO BOMB THE PROVINCE OFF THE FACE OF THIS EARTH. DISGUSTING! PEOPLE ARE SO BORED ALL THEY DO IS EAT AND GOSSIP AND GET FAT AND MISERABLE! PATHETIC!!
And yes I will move soon and when I do THANK GOD!
Saskatchewan (especially Saskatoon) you’re not liked so just go to hell. FUCK YOU AND I’M OUT!

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“The people in Regina are so rude I can’t stand living here I hate it here every day is torture I just keep my head down and don’t talk to have anybody even when I’m talking to a friend other rude people from Regina interrupted and ruin my day it sucks to live here too I can’t stand it

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“I worked in Saskatchewan a few years ago, I was never in a place where the people were so godamn rude to an outsider to the point where I couldn’t get served or receive service in the local town, even the people I worked with made it very clear that you’re not welcome. I wouldn’t mind the attitude so much but these shit kickers have nothing to be proud of except being racist, ill mannered, culturally bankrupt and profoundly stupid.

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“Your right. I left vancouver to move to Saskatchewan 6 years ago. I live in a little shit hole called assiniboia. I am leaving end of september. Hubby won’t leave so I am going alone.

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“Left 10 years ago& every so often I just go to Google maps alone to get a reality check as to what I am not missing in the province I started in.Yes was born & raised there and see why all my aunts&uncles left to never come back. Its so sad, pathetic &says something about the lack of culture in this province when they base all their hopes and dreams in an awful N.F.L. farm league team called the Riders with even a recent history with that fuckhead Jones running the team where people that gave everything to that pathetic franchise are only thrown under the bus for their services. Pathetic to a point where people in this province have replaced hanging up a beautiful provincial flag with the tiger lily in their yards with that of the Green Big S flag standing for SUCKS for the football team….4-17 in the big game worst in league history dating back to 1910 in that of a 9 team league,that in 107 years of existence. OOOOhh will hear about this from their cultish fans where you can insult God, clergy, yer grandparents, parents, but not the Riders that’s a cardinal mortal sin in the eyes of Sask. people…To fans of the team …ITS ONLY FUCKING SPORTS MORONS!!!But CFL all consuming in Sask,unlike anywhere else in Canada.The heart of this assholishness is Regina and there is not enough room or time to dwell on how awful this gateway to hell is. Was stuck there for 13 years, a number unknown to fans of the Riders in the game.Just really really really lucky got off of the island Alcatraz(Sk.)

Hate Canada: Is it normal?

“I totaly hate living in canada.I would rather move somewhere like the united states.It is one of the most boring places on earth I swear.All the men here seem to care about is hockey,beer,golf and weed.the weather here sucks you get 4 months of hot weather and for the rest of the year your freezing your ass off.The justice system here sucks to you could murder someone and get 10 years and be out in 5,commit a dozen armed robberies and get house arrest.At least in the u.s.a people get harsh prison sentences.The government here has no balls what so ever.they give into every whine made by the native people who get free housing.dont have to pay taxes,free dental,presciptions and university cause the white man stole their land 500 yrs ago.They are given millions which doesnt even go to their people in the first place it goes to the chiefs who go on lavish vacations,buy expensive veicles and so on while their people are living in poverty.Iam sorry to say but none of the white people that mistreated them are alive today so its time for them to get over it.The goverment here is just so fucked up and stupid to make any changes.”

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“I am an Australian who is currently living in Toronto. What a horrible place to be. I am so sick of people asking, once they hear my accent, “what are you doing HERE?”. For a country that supposedly has so much pride, that’s a really odd question.


I am sick of driving on the roads, where people seem to be forever trying to compete, or prove some sort of point. I don’t get it…we all need to get from point A to point B…let’s help each other. I spent 1 year working in California, and despite the insane traffic, I’ve never come across more polite drivers, with common sense. Here, when you want to change lanes, people seem to get happy from making that impossible.


Thirdly, I find the people here to be overly racist. Especially against Americans. In my time in California, I never even heard Canada mentioned (let alone bashed). Here, almost every week at work, I’m hearing some sort of comment about “stupid Americans”. I don’t know, but I think comments like these reflect more on YOU than Americans. And let’s assume they are stupid…let it speak for itself – you don’t have to tell everyone and their uncle about it. 

Furthermore, if America is THAT bad, don’t go across the border to shop. Tear down the McDonald’s and all the American stores. Stop watching American shows. Stop listening to American music. Stop the famous people from MOVING to America.

People are quite rude – nobody smiles and nobody talks to anyone unless it’s to complain. I used to try and give people the benefit of the doubt and assume they are having a bad day. But when 8 in 10 interactions are like this, I suppose it’s just the culture to have a bad day.

I also agree with the “Canadian Experience” comments. What’s wrong with actually embracing diversity (not just talking about embracing it)…what’s wrong with not assuming that just because someone has an accent that they are incompentent. Australia is diverse and I think we integrate foreigners by supporting their strengths, as opposed to making them suffer for it. 

Everything IS expensive here, and only getting more expensive. Soon they will probably impose a tax for breathing.


I am glad I stumbled across these posts because for a while I was thinking something was wrong with me. But it’s great to realise that I have become the way I am because I’ve been living in a toxic environment.

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“I too am glad I stumbled across this site. I agree with everything you said and I have experienced everything you have and I think ‘toxic’ describes it perfectly.

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“I agree with everything you said…all true statements. I m an American living in Canada (permanent resident) and I can attest to what you have said. Applying for jobs with a BA in criminal justice is all fine until you tell the employer where you are from…then end of conversation. The same with rentals…great until you advise them where your from…end of deal. American bashing is quite a pass time. All though the ones doing the bashing know nothing about America. Just a pass time for Canadians. (They are bored) Funny you wrote about “tax for breathing” I was just thinking that the other day. Funny. Your absolutely right…about everything. Canada likes to think it is the best country in the world…If that is so true why do so many Canadians go on vacation in other countries and shop in the US (?)

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“I moved to Canada three years ago after I married and moved from the USA, I hate it, especially the weather and its so expensive that I seriously will never go shopping here when they decide to actually get off their you know what and process my immigration papers which is a serious joke and takes forever over a year now already and I still cant work.

I live in Alberta and if you don’t like rodeos, Calgary stampede and Hockey they think you are from another planet. I am married to a guy that thinks their is nothing else in the world than working himself to death, hockey and rodeos AND THATS IT !!! I long for a NORMAL life again. The winters here are about to drive me insane. I honestly don’t get why anyone would live here on purpose. I feel like im going to shrivel up and die here UGGH

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“My wife and I (both Australians) spent a 2 week holiday in Ontario and Quebec. It was without doubt the worst holiday I have ever had. 

The Canadian immigration and customs officials are paranoid and seem to think everyone is trying to illegally enter Canada, why the hell would a mature couple from Australia want to sneak into a aplace that is freezing cold and economicaly backward.

Toronto is a miserable boring place with little to recommend it.
The staff in the service industries are rude and unhelpful. 
The only place we felt comfortable was Quebec, where even though we could hardly speak french the locals, on realising we were tourists , went out of their way to help us.

Boy was I glad to board the plane for LA to thaw out and enjoy a genuine warm welcome from the ordinary american in the street!

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“So true. I live in canada but am too dumb to qualify for a green card.

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“Agree, therefore I transferred to Australia and completed my University degree there.

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“I completely agree with you. I lived in Northern Ontario and the situation there is even worse. There is a lot of racism and ignorance towards foreigners. Canadians are as cold as their weather. I hate it here even Toronto is boring, just saving money to run away from here. I regret to come here, boring Canadians, rude, racists, cold hearted, unfriendly. They are only good to say sorry, thanks, but not for deeper conversations or be friends. They don’t know how to say hello like animals.

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“Sorry you got offended by some of the comments on this page but THE REALITY IS THAT CANADA IS A SHIT HOLE

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“Alberta is so racist. I was in Calgary with an Asian friend and they wouldn’t let her into a club because they wouldn’t accept her valid driver’s license as ID. They wanted her passport! Who on earth carries around their passport as ID, when they have a driver’s license!!

Toronto is also racist. They like to make a big deal out of “diversity awareness” but that’s just on the surface. Behind people’s backs, they still trash Black people and Indians, and treat those with accents VERY differently. I experienced this first-hand while working downtown in Toronto. 

I agree with idontgetit. It’s not a “one-off prick” who is unfriendly…it’s actually most people. If you have always lived in Canada, you probably won’t understand, but other places are sooooo much more friendly and happy and courteous. 


And I find it amusing, AmbulanceAbby, that even YOU make negative implications about a city in Canada (“what is an Australian like yourself doing in Toronto anyways?”). So even you somewhat agree with what idontgetit has to say!

Canadians are so smart!

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“Canadians in general are just annoying, little hypocrites. Canada is one of the whitest nations on earth and we are racist under all the politically correct nonsense. I’ve wanted to leave my whole life-maybe one day

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“@idontgetit…this is a prime example of whats wrong with canada: bunch of racist, hypocritical, predatory, hateful, over-entitled pricks with no sense of shame about it.

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“you arent wrong in identifying the ethos in canada…it has gotten away far too long with the public fake mask it wants the world to see, but spend a little time here and the mask crumbles and you see what the people are really like. by “people” i mean white people since they are the ones who have created this environment.

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“News flash…Canada is not anymore beautiful than most other countries…you should get out more. There is more to life than Hockey.

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“The Aussie is correct. Its just that most canadians can’t see themselves. Canadians are basically just boring americans.

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“No No Canadians are just Canadians…don’t put them in the same sentence as Americans. Americans are a lot nicer people…

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“Dude your comment of “if you hate it so much leave” is ignorant as hell. Could you have thought of a less imaginative thing to say. I have lived in Canada my whole life and it is truly a shithole. No one talks to one another and are rude. The comment about being hell bent on trying to prevent people from changing lanes–true.


I blame it on our government in a way. Rules! Rules! More Rules! How many times as some nonsense rule gotten in the way of a perfectly enjoyable time or situation? Always! And that is why Canadians are always trying to enforce themselves on others…its bullshit. Seriously, why would I give a flip that someone wants to change lanes? I’ll tell you why. Because the asshole Canadian who is trying to change lanes in front of you is trying to get one up on you. In most rational places in the world with an actual culture, people are focussed on other things but trying to prove that they are the rule makers, superior and in charge. Fuck off Canada, I wish I never met you.”

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“The messed up thing is that immigrants come enter into this country poor as can be, and be funded and housed better than a lot of people born here. But, if by some chance you might be poor and you were born here and you want to leave … well, how can you do it? Where can you go? This place is so messed up.

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“Do reconsider your phrasing of Canada being a ‘beautiful’ country when your compatriots are unable to appreciate the diversity of a multi-ethnic society. I know Canadians who are proud to call themselves ‘pasty white guys’ while travelling once a year to South East Asia. The hypocrisy is glaringly annoying, but totally normal (I suppose) to Canadians. I have completed two degrees in Canada, one on the east coast, one on the west coast, and a common experience is how narrow-minded Canadians are. I am from Denmark and a frequent response I get after introducing myself is ‘Have you ever been to Copenhagen?’ Maybe it is ignorance that makes one Canadian or does being Canadian make one ignorant? Or both? Perhaps you would not be so in ‘awe’ of what you call ignorance if you got out of your beloved comfort zone and embraced something different.


You yourself do not do justice to your own argument. You say Canada is a beautiful country, yet name only Albertans as the nicest and most down to earth. Hence that leaves me to wonder whether ‘Canada’ to you is represented only by Alberta and people from the rest of the provinces and territories, well, aren’t ‘nice’.

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“I HATE Canada and mostly Toronto> as a Canadian who just moved back here from the States…what a god-awful, ignorant, arrogant shit-hole. Had to come back here, 30%% cut in salary, 80%% increase in prices, paycheque is raped by taxes, and then take it up the ass again should you ever purchase anything. $50 liquor…give me F*** break, same bottle in the US is $19. Gave up a 3 bedroom ranch for $900 for a 2 bedrm house for $1500….CHRIST!

and if you more person says…well WE have universal healthcare…well i hope you enjoy it when i put you in a hostipal bed…hell move over, as much as i have to pay, I deserve that bed…nice though you have to be sick and hospitalized to see how wonderful it is.Car insurance is ridiclous and so is parking..traffic horrible. I have yet to ONE person at a store say hello, or thank you…guess they are just as miserable at being fucked over as everyone else. I much rather move back to the States and be illegal than live in this miserable hell hole

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“yeah, an illegal immigrant lives in better conditions in the US than here in Canada the land of universal health care …where RCMP go to Peru to get ayahuasca to drink and hopefully get some sanity into the pea size brain.

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“I meant an illegal immigrant lives better in the US than the average canadian tax payer citizen.

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“So true. I had all the same emotions when i had to come back here from the u.s. Canada really does suck in many “real” ways. A bunch if pretentious snobs in this country who cannot see themselves

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“You can buy Canadian beer at less cost in the states than you can buy in Canada.

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“Okay …I’m coing with you ….where was your Rahcn? I’m moving my wide and daughters to Southern California as soon as we purchase a business there …maybe look into it yourself 🙂

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-2_visa

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“As a person born and raised in Canada I have to agree with most of the Americans on here. When most people think of Canada they think of the Canada of the 50’s and 60’s which died long ago. Today Canada is the land of mediocrity. Everything is 40%% higher in cost than the U.S, salaries are only slightly higher at the very low end and then actually fall below the U.S. average for better jobs. Taxes are rediculously high compared to the services our government provides. Yea we have somewhat free health care (its not like everything is free) but it does not matter when the quality of it is so low and the waiting times are so rediculously long. I am positive that you would still be far better off financially paying monthly health insurance in the U.S. and saving absolutely absurd amounts on everything else. Plus, when you need health care you will actually get it, not 6 months later. Our architecture is bland and boring.


The weather also truly is a huge turn off. Yea I know we get all four seasons blah blah blah, but in reality we get 3 to 4 months of nice weather and then the rest of the year is gray, miserable and cold. I love how people here in Toronto like to say we have a similar climate to NYC, take a look at the real weather stats, we are nowhere close to that. Even in American cities like Chicago which has similar temperatures to Toronto, they average WAAAY more sunshine in the winter months then we do, which makes a huge difference. 


Everything here is controlled by the government and it is very difficult for somebody with entrepreneurial spirit who wants to break away from the pact to get ahead. I think someone said previously you can not even start a dairy farm and sell milk in Canada without paying huge amounts of money to the government first! Everything is a monopoly and controlled by only a few companies.


Worst of all, we have no national identity and truly do pride ourselves on what we are not instead of what we are. Did you know that they are even considering taking O Canada out of schools because it offends people!? what kind of true country would do this!!?

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“I just wanted to add that I’m sorry but I would rather take Liberty, justice and most importatly HAPPINESS in America over equality and whatever else we supposedly stand for in Canada.


Our news is very one sided and we are not allowed to get stations with a republican point of view here to balance it out and so we get a one sided view on everything. I am independent leaning slightly left when it comes to politics but it is awful how one sided out media is to liberal thinking. 


This is way so many Canadians have such a negative view of America. That and the fact that so many Canadians only trips to America involve Buffalo and Orlando. Go spend some significant time in a city in America that is the equivilant of yours in Canada and tell me it doesn’t just have a better vibe and soul to it.

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“there are NO canadian cities that are the equivalent of american cities. the USA is better for so many reasons, including the american ethos that has nurtured people to have forthright characters, even when what they believe and propose is racist. at least in america, the racists have the courage of their convictions to be honest about it. in canada, canadian racists are slimy, trying to be closeted, corrupt, ignoble characters.

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“Another true observation. Canadians heads are all stuck in the grey clouds, literally and figuratively.

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“o canada ought to be demolished, actually. it IS offensive. thats one thing you forgot to mention on the growing list of what sucks about canada: the RACISM and the denial of it.

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“So agree… Living in Toronto for a year I have started thinking if I am too pessimistic. I waited for the summer just to get some sunlight and cheer up. No way. Canadians or at least Torontonians are the most unfriendly people I’ve ever met. Some rare exceptions exist, but the majority of friendly people is sth-Canadian or immigrants. The others are complete hypocrites. Cold souls. Trying to be politically correct while their whole face is criticizing you from tip to toe; For how you speak (oh, the accent!As if they have none, ha!) and how you dress and where do you come from and so on. Respect to diversity is a lie. There is no such thing as respect. They don’t even like themselves (comparing ALL the time with US, Jesus!) how can they like others?

There is no Canadian culture, no Canadian food. They live like machines, wake up go to job, eat dinner while watching TV. They are totally boring, ignorant, arrogant people who care more for their mortgage than for anything else in the world. Arrogance, particularly; They have no clue how the world is. They keep saying “if you don’t like it here, then leave” without even trying to understand how it is for somebody to leave a place in war, or hunger, or any other crisis. So full of themselves. If people were able to stay where they where, believe me Canadians, they wouldn’t even come here for a 1week vacation!! I spend a year of my life patiently trying to adjust but enough is enough. As for ‘o canada’ there are students that are not even permanent residents here, you nationalists of hockey and beer ‘nation’! Your country’s history is a bunch of discrimination and your promotion of a respectful and diverse nation is nothing but a lie. You just want to exploit immigrants, that ‘s how you survive. Looking forward to get out of here ASAP.

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“Man this is so true. I am a white male born here and you are correct. Pretty bad when immigrants from the 3rd world want to return. Too bad canadians are too dumb and or afraid to ever see themselves as as they really are. Americans who are not allowed to live in america for starters. Its really all the bullshit that the “i’m a special canadian” refuses to acknowledge. I call this place Stepford instead of canada a lot of the time.

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“You read my mind, i completely agree with you. Canadians are hypocrite racists, cold hearted who pretend to be welcome but they don’t even know how to say hello. I hate it here, just saving money to run away and maybe go to US, at least when they are racists they are honest, here they are fake people

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“True. Racism is big here. Canadians live to pretend none of it exists though. Its a liberal thing.

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“So true. Canada depresses me because i see it for what it really is not what the govt etc would have me see.

Canadians are not big on principles of freedom (because thats too american after all)and sadly american citizens are losing theirs. The difference is americans one day will no longer take repeated sh@t from their gov’t. Canadians on the other hand, don’t stand up for themselves when raped by corps, gov’t etc. repeatedly, again because that would be too “american” to the canadian mentality. I wish i had never lived in the u.s despite all its problems because canadians suck.

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“Living in Canada is outrageous, terrible governemnt, citizens that have no backbone to stand up to them, terrible selection of stores and restaurants, taxes, taxes and more taxes.

They just screwed us all on our supposed ‘tax renovation credit’, which ends up only helping the wealthy people, big surprise. 

The only reason people say they are happy living here is because they don’t have the knoweldge or education to explore other countries, the US is superior is almost every way and as far as our health care goes, it is awful and I hope never to have to use it.

If only it were easier to move to the US, half the people here would be gone.

It time to admit it Canada, we are in need of a massive makeover, crumbling roads and a useless government are sinking this ship fast.

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“I just returned from a week trip there and I see what you mean. Awful place…..

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As far as the origional post goes, Canada is not somthing to have pride in. Yes I love the people, my family and friends, its the piss poor Government, taxes, and this attitude where we think were free and the tax is needed and important. We pay compound interest to our private banks for the deficit, our elections are a farce, you cannot vote for prime minister seperate from local party, our damn money is even outsourced to Germany! Our currency is printed in Germany, I can imagine the WWII vets think of that.

I think that all of the western culture is backwards! The USA is definitely far better run, even with all of its problems. If we ever got attacked by another Country The Americans would have to protect us, its not rocket science. There is alot of stupid Americans, but there are alot of smart ones, greedy ones polite ones. Canadians think they have a moral high ground to the USA, but that is a blind and ignorant way to think. Either way you cannot class every person in a Country under one stereotype. 


I personally believe that Canada is a nice Idea but its days are numbered. This Country will fall apart, and hopefully the Americans will be understanding enough to take care of us when it happens.

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“I hope it falls apart soon. Lets get on with it.

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“Exactly, Canada is just USA’s pet.

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“I am an Australian who is a permanent resident in Toronto, Canada. I have been here for 9 months. I can honestly say that I have NEVER lived in a DIRTIER and MORE MISERABLE city than Toronto. I just love your SLAVE wages, your RAPACIOUS TAXES and your glum never smiling people. One of my sons said yesterday “This is like North Korea – they have just not shut off the borders yet”. Your immigration department should be sued for false advertising. This is NOTHING like what they represent it…NOTHING.


I especially love how your country gives points for skills to get here as an immigrant THEN refuses to let people use their skills when you get here. Nice trick that one! People are WASTING THEIR LIVES here – if you want to get ahead go to the USA or Australia – NOT this shit hole of a society. 


The people here are so polite….indeed so polite that they very often behave like DOOR MATS….and NEVER have the guts to make a fuss or tell you to your face what they really think. Just GUTLESS. 


Oh and I just love the “you aussies are so racsist compared to we Canadians”. Yes, some aussies are racsist for sure BUT you note that we admit it and try to DO SOMETHING about it. Canadians on the other hand just pull out the old “no Canadian experience” card – which is totally racsist at its core : no where is as good as Canada . So you condemn people who could contribute to your society to WASTE their lives driving cabs or working in Tim Hortens.


Canada SUCKS BIG TIME. Sure – no question – its is incredibly beautiful and I even like the cold climate – but your government, society, media (ha CBC – what a joke – just an arm of government prpaganda!), diversity INDUSTRY, left wing do gooder ethos ALL SUCK.

I hate the place and am taking my family home ASAP. If I could go to the US by the way I certainly would – it is superior in EVERY POSSIBLE WAY to this DUMP.

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“Wow! I thought that I had written that in my sleep and didn’t remember! It reflects everything I have been thinking. You are right – they have no GUTS. I came from Europe and I wanted to go to the USA originally, unfortunately I came here believing in the cleanliness, fresh air, wholesome (what a joke) outlook etc. I really regret the day I shelved my plans for going to the USA and came here instead. They are a spineless, ignorant, smug, preverted, racist bunch of people. I have been here for 17 years so I have had a lot of time to observe the average Canadian. Why do they hate Americans, Brits, Australians etc so much? Oh, I remember, it’s because Canadians are losers in comparison! I plan to go back to Europe soon. I’ve been here for 17 years too long.

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“Yes, loualexnick, we ARE losers and let me tell you that the government makes sure that we constantly BRAINWASHED with the lie that we are the fairest, most ‘progressive’, kindest, zzzzzzzz (you get the picture) country since we were too young to know any better. This is the most horrible, deceitful, bland and ugly (especially architecturally) DUMP in the world. I’m openly and spitefully derisive with the people I know of most everything abouit this ‘place’ with my acquaintances even when met with that typical canuck denial reaction.

What’s wrong with this shithole, you ask?

a. No culture. No community. Suspicious, antagonistic people. As a male, it is expected of me that I should know that any sexual interest I show a woman is construed as some form or harassment; as a result, I barely have dated as much as I wanted to. Try living your life being viewed as a predator by the opposite sex and see how you like it. I Hate it!!


b. Stupid governmental/business policies. A person will gain a trade or profession in good faith, doing what he’s supposed to do and all by the book. But when he/she graduates, nobody, and I mean nobody will give him or her a chance to prove himself. I would have thought that a business or even a government would have created a glide path that would permit young people to use their expensively acquired skills to maximum benefit and as quickly after graduation as possible. Nope. What you get instead is requests for ooodles of experience, highly specialized skills that no one not in the industry could possibly have, and no training!! What kind of a stupid, ignorant country is this??? The next thing these assholes tell you is that you shouldn’t feel ‘entitled’ to having a job, that one should profess an attitude of meek gratitude at even having the opportunity to make your employer even richer while putting food on the table. 


Any immigrants out there reading this should NOT come here, if you value your sanity, your health, and your professional future. By the way, any failure you may experience here, and you will experience a lot, will be attributed wholely to you. It will be all your fault and no one else’s.


I’m in Costa Rica in 6 months…god I can’t wait. God bless everyone. ciao!!

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“We canadians take it up the as@ on a daily basis by our “elected” govt and big business that is in bed with the gov’t. Since canadians are a powerless bunch, we project our frustrations at ourselves on other countries, immigrants etc. I want out of here so bad, and it has become my life goal to move somewhere warm. As in warm people. The whole “canadians are so nice” thing only exists on the surface of canadians. We are a bitter bunch of 38 million.

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“When you leave canada…can i come with you? As in one way ticket out of here? Everything you say is true.

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“they are so two faced the cant say nothing to your face, just spew out crap behind your back and if you ask them a question they dont know they just cant say if they dont know the answer to something rather than makin up crap, theres something twisted bout you egos that you need to pretend to know everything! and for the top comment that everyone hates where they live, no its wrong, try leaving canada to ye see whats out there, i love where i live and even more now after seeing canada, we always talk about fun things to do and enjoy life, total opposite of the canadian way, i cant wait to hear your comments back since yez are all so insecure!!

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“I agree. Canada is an overrated, holier-than-thou country that is living off the good reputation its citizens built generations ago. Canadians have an unwarranted pride in their “politeness” but drive on a Canadian road and you’ll see nothing but rude, inconsiderate and ignorant behaviour. Both sides of my family moved to Canada from Scotland/France in the late 1700s. I’m a seventh generation Canadian but wish I had the skills and resources to immigrate to a civilized country like Denmark or Norway. Alas, while my tax dollars support a government that lets into its country just about anyone, gives them universal health care, welfare and encourages them to keep their own culture, it spends nothing on helping its own taxpayers get the hell out. On Canada Day 2011, I proudly wear my France t-shirt.

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“and i have to laugh at you saying your free kick ass health benifits, they are only free until your sick, i was completly robbed with prescriptions the amount i had to pay, you need to find a job to pay into benifits so you can get them subsidised so dont make me laugh that its free!! over hear working or not you get everything including prescriptions for free and you dont need any stupid work benifits so dont try use your only stupid thing you got that you have free kick ass health benifits what a joke


what are you on about im a perminant resident if a health card like anyone else, my canadian relitives pay into work benifits towards paying for there so called free health care prescriptions to get them subsidised and sister in law had to pay to stay in hospital cause she was having a baby of course operations etc are free so you think that makes it free health care!! go learn what your talking about before you speak, canadas a dump full of lies and sneaky ways of putting things accross

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“I have lived in several countries in Europe, and Canada, and none is perfect, all have different problems. I don’t hate any country, but I don’t think this is an appropriate country for me, and I should have been happy where I was, and not interested in moving to Canada, hoping to make more money and have more things.


It is too cold, 12 months of the year. The summer is colder than winter indoors, and extreme temperature changes due to the air conditioners. I have to wear winter clothes (including a large winter jacket all day, and minimum two or three pairs of pants) in the office where I work. I know not everyone is as cold as me, I am a slim mediterranean person.

Many people are jealous.

At work, 90% of my colleagues do everything possible to avoid sharing helpful information with each other, all trying not only to do their best job, not only to be the best, but also doing what they can to impede upon the work of their colleagues. I have heard many times several colleagues telephone a manager to report discrepancies in other colleagues work, instead of speaking directly to each other. Always trying to be the friend of the manager. Colleagues less than 30 years old talking about blood pressure. Obligatory meetings VERY often at least 80% of the meeting is about Harry Potter or some novels (fiction, not litterature) I would rather not hear about.


The people are not solidary, the company makes a meeting and says, as of today, you will be required to do more work for less money. And all the colleagues go to talk about this with the bosses, as if they are very passionate about the company’s business, and just looking to work more hours for less money to help the business. 


The food is all imported. Fruit in my country was sweet; here in Canada, fruit is sour, also expensive. You can buy frozen or dried fruits, and often I actually watch my colleagues eat fruit out of a can. 


Health care? This is a good place to be if one is disabled or requires surguries or experiencing medical problems. There is no health care for those in good health, who exercise and are not overweight. Dentist, eye care….. this is not “free health care.”

There are incentives for companies to hire disabled people to work instead of non disabled people. Sorry, should companies not hire the person who can do the best job and is most qualified? 

Everything is expensive, bad food, bad nightlife, bad weather, bad health care – for healthy and in shape people. I pay so much money in taxes, and so much money for every purchase, food I wouldn’t want to eat.


The people, sorry, not only are they not very… beautiful… they are also not very nice or open! When I went out with some “friends” I met, who actually like to dance, I accepted to dance with people I didnt know who invited me to dance, and after, the “friends” told me, I should not accept to dance with people who are not good looking, too old, not well dressed enough… As if they themselves are good looking! I thought if the person inviting me too dance is not creepy or inappropriate or something, I can accept to dance a 3 minute song with this person, rather than to be rude or hurt their feelings?! 


Oh, and, for most Canadians, “going out” means drinking beer, getting totally drunk, no dancing, just sitting and drinking alcohol. I drink a little alcohol when I go out – a little – for me fun is not sitting for hours drinking beer and funny thing is not seeing my friend vomiting!


The obese people are never nice to me here. By the way, the people are very super-size, some overweight, some just very large and tall, which I hear is from hormones in the dairy and meat here? I WAS an average height person where I am from, here I am little.

Canada IS a beautiful country, despite the weather and food, and could be quite nice if there were a nice culture? I suffer to hear this language every day, all the time swearing, and even worse, words such as, “friggin'”. But, the people are politically correct!

Maybe this is the worst part of life in Canada, the culture (lack of) and the people. Almost no one knows anything about geography or history or current affairs, outside of what concerns North America. Here, we are very far away, and very isolated, from the rest of the world, it is not the people’s fault for their education and what they know.

People care about making money and buying things, and job titles. 

Wearing shoes made for athletes when one is not an athlete, even is seriously obese? Really there is hardly any style here, oh and whenever I went out in the evenings, I see the girls dressed in sandals, very short skirts, sleevless shirts, not that this is always vulgar, but in -20 degrees? And the overweight people seem to prefer this look most of all. Why?

Okay, I can advise to come here if you like the things I mentioned above, or if this suits you. Or else, stay where you are, unless there is a war in your country, or you are disabled or seriously ill, then you can enjoy the benefits of welfare forever, and free education special people, and have opportunities you wouldn’t in most developed countries. 

If you are an educated person in your country, you might come here and find more money, but you will not find a higher quality of life.

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“I HATE CANADA TOO…IM FROM DUBAI JUST MOVED HERE 4 MONTHS AGO…I THINK PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE ARE WASTING THEIR LIVES..WHERE I COME FROM PEOPLE GO OUT AND HAVE FUN THERE ARE PEOPLE ON THE STREETS THERE ARE RESTRAUNTS OPEN THERE ARE PLACES TO GO..CANADA IS LIKE A LIVING HELL..ITS COLD ALL YEAR LONG THE SO CALLED SUMMER IS A BIT COLD AS WELL…THE LEGAL AGE IS 19 WTF? WHO DOES THAT? ITS SUPPOSED TO BE 18 OR 21 BUT 19? AND DRIVERS LICENSE? YU GET YOUR G1 AND DEN WAIT 1 WHOLE YEAR TO GET YOUR G2? AND THEN COMES SOME OTHER CRAP CALLED G? WHY CANT LICENSING BE JUST A SIMPLE LICENSE WHY 3 TYPES AND WAIT PEIOD OF SO F***** LONG!! THENNN!! IT GETS DARK AT 5 IN THE EVENING? WTF? ANDDD YU CANT HAVE A MOTORCYCLE HERE? CUZ YU CAN ONLY RIDE IT FOR 4 MONTHS…? I LOOK DOWN THE STREET PEOPLE ARE ALL IN THEIR FRIGGIN HOUSES ITS DARK OUTSIDE AND ALL YU CAN SEE IS THE TV LIGHT FLASHING IN EVERYONE’S HOMES..SOMETIME I DONT BLAME THEM BECAUSE WHAT IS ONE SUPPOSED TO DO IN AN AWFUL PLACE LIKE THIS? THIS LAND IS HELL ITS A WASTE ON THE EARTH…I WISH I COULD GO BACK BUT IM KINDA STUCK WITH NO WAY OUT FOR A WHILE…DAMNN I PITY PEOPLE WHO HAVE GROWN UP HERE…THEY SURE HAVENT SEEN THE REAL ‘LIFE’ ……..

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“Very true… Thank you for feeling my pain…really thanks..

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“I should add that I will spend the rest of my days on earth warning would be immigrants to Canada NOT to consider it under ANY circumstances. It is POISON for your life and your future. Sure VISIT (it is very very beautiful) but do NOT under any circumstances consider WASTING your life here because that IS what it will turn into : a WASTING of your life and the lives of your children. BE WARNED. Its either the US or Australia if you want a chance to make something of your life. Here you are only wanted as fodder for some $9 per hour service job (ha ha the service is unsmiling and LOUSY here anyway) not for your actual SKILLS and talents. Set up a business? NO WAY – taxes, red tape, INSURANCE will ensure that it is MUCH MUCH HARDER than both the US and Australia.


Please, please listen to me – so many immigrants go home again – I even know a guy from India who is doing so and I have heard of others. But Canadians don’t talk about that do they. 


My wife and I now call Canada NO CAN DO A DA because of its INEVITABLE way of ALWAYS making everything difficult and covered in red tape.

Finally what a JOKE that your public servants get paid SO MUCH when ordinary wages are SO low. 
If it wasn’t so tragic you’d laugh.

Anyway Canada’s government debt – it is UNBELIEVABLY high – will absolutely guarantee that this nation becomes the Mexico of the north (or Mexisnow as we call it ) within the next 10-15 years. Watch and weep. 
CANADA : YOU SUCK !!!

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“It’s interesting that you talk about how immigrants should go home again. All I can say is…at least they were able to get in!!


I am a Canadian-born, Canadian citizen, who has been totally betrayed by my own country, because the government decided that my husband, who was here on an extended work visa, should leave the country, even though he and I met and married here, and have two children. We filled out the forms, but it was not enough to let him stay, and now he has been waiting over five years to get back. 


The government doesn’t care that our youngest child has a medical condition and gets regular treatments at Children’s Hospital. Despite our pleas, they just keep saying no, and delaying my husband’s re-entry over and over. I am so angry with Canada because it has betrayed three of its citizens: myself AND our two children, who don’t have the chance to have their daddy be a part of their lives as they grow up. 


I am so angry at my country that I no longer want to be identified as a Canadian. On online profiles I have changed my status to another nationality or nothing at all.

By the way, Aussie888, are you going to stay in Canada, or have you thought of returning to Australia? My mum is from Melbourne and I’ve been there a few times. It is a beautiful country.

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“You are ungry for the right reasons, and that is healthy..

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“I hear about stuff like this all the time. Good luck! Canada is SO stupid.

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“when a canadian friend came over here they broke there leg without insurence and was fixed up for free, the stay in hospital was free and the prescriptions where free, that is free health care!! i dont know how canadians pay insurence to get prescriptions subsidised, pay full dental price unless subsidised, pay for the stay in hospital but get the operations free and run around thinking the have great free health benifits, excuse me i cant stop laughing

and answer this, i know canada is full of emmigrants but if someones born in canada and grow up in canada they are canadian right? so why does every canadian whos born and grows up there say they are some other nationality? if canadas something to be proud of they would be saying they are canadian!! i dont know why yous diss the USA they are a great place and its just jealousy and insecurity you arent comfortable enough with yoursleves cause you have nothing to be proud of

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“Know where you’re coming from Aussie. I lived in Toronto for a miserably long year. Service is a joke, one time we asked for two burgers, was given three and then the server refused to acknowledge she could have made a mistake! I questioned a price in a store and was made to feel like I had just abused her! Give me a break! Fair dinkum. Sure Australia has issues, every western country does (probably every country in the world!) but we are NICE, FRIENDLY people as a whole. Here we talk to others waiting in line as a way to pass time and be friendly. Can’t do that in Canada! I found the men were polite, the women toxic pretty well universally. The coffee – what is this hype about Tim Hortons????? Must be a cultural thing. I can’t taste coffee at all!! Of course my OH is Canadian and here in Australia he thinks here everything sucks and everything is so much better there. Yeah right. It is the old rose coloured glasses thing, he still remembers the “old days”. Houses are cheaper there. That’s the only upside.

The weather is appalling, the people rude (women), the laws to immigrate a joke….I can’t work for two years, or learn anything if I moved there – what the??? Here my OH could work straight away and we are not forced to retire if we don’t want to. I know we are in a better place here. You’ll notice a massive breath of fresh air when you land back here, the customs people are even friendly and laconic! Don’t you miss that! You’ll be right mate, don’t lose your sense of humour. Remember they are the ones who have the problem not you. I am so grateful I am an Australian now and that we live here.

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“you dont know what im talking about? my friend went to vancouver for a year, only could last 6 months, she said it was back in time and the people couldnt spell fun they are socially dead, instead of fun yez work work work you are like robots wasting your lives for fun, and besides prescriptions you have to pay to stay in hospital the operations are just free so really your health care is free until your sick, try leaving canada to you see any emmigrant ive been talking to wish they never went there now they are stuck in low paid jobs in this land of oppertunity and cant afford to leave and im talking about countless nationalities even ones from what we would call 3rd world countries, canadas the biggest waste of your life and i feel sorry yous will never get the most out of it, no morals and normal to cheat on your spouses too, sneaky and scammers, just be nice looking tips, y should we pay tips its your bosses employ you, ye pay over the top for a pint in the first place then expect to tip ontop of that, your bosses if charging that can obviously afford to pay decent wage instead of gurning at the customers for not paying extra just cause of this fake actor that pretends that they are actually nice people, the country makes me so angey, biggest waste of 15 months of my life i want to pretend it doesnt exist

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“Thanks for that comment Canuck…..I agree with your comment….my experience is mostly based on living in this rat hole known as Toronto. Actually even once you get into the country side in Ontario the people are much friendlier and seem happier too. One thing is NOT in doubt: Canada is probably THE most beautiful country in the world. Australia, where I come from, can be awesome but Canada is still more amazing in my view. Indeed that is WHY I would like to stay here. 


Canada deserves better from its government, its public service and its institutions though. You guys get taxed at every turn – it is paralysing! But as you can read my biggest beef is “no Canadian experience” which I think is just a kind of hyper parochialism or even disguised racism. It’s tantamount to saying “where you come from is second rate”. Or third rate. Apparently even Americans get it which is just so bizarre! Trust me in Australia those words (“you don’t have Australian experience”) are not used and never heard.


BUT believe me I am comforted by the thought that everyone else in Canada loathes Toronto too (and maybe Ottawa from what I can tell?). 


I do think Canada Immigration misrepresents in a really negligent way how “valued” you will be here as an immigrant because of your experience and education (which is WHY you get the points to come to Canada in the first place). This unadvertised reality is then compounded unofficially by the relentless use if “I’m sorry, but you have no Canadian experience”. You guys have THE most qualified and intelligent taxi drivers in the world as a result! Also THE most frustrated and despairing! 


Like I said before Canada DESERVES better than this – you are short changing yourselves too by just ignoring the talent of these immigrants – you turn them from being potential “movers and shakers” to frustrated low income drains on your economy – many of whom just pack up and go home again. That is just NOT smart at all from anyones point of view.

Canada could be a much greater country than it is – look at your military for example – just fantastic. But then compare your military with the City of Toronto (as an organization)….yep….many of your institutions here are sound asleep at the wheel and racking up debt to boot.

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“I lived in Canada 2 years now an I HATE IT, an absolutely fucked up country. I wish to get my citizenship and will never show up again here EVER.

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“The following links are to other blogs that also hate Toronto and Canada

hxxp://www.rooshv.com/15-reasons-why-toronto-is-the-worst-city-in-north-america-for-men
hxxp://www.thegridto.com/city/sexuality/why-is-it-so-hard-to-hook-up-in-toronto/
hxxp://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/city_result.jsp?country=Canada&city=Toronto
hxxp://www.nowtoronto.com/lifestyle/story.cfm?content=173613
hxxp://www.torontolife.com/informer/features/2011/05/04/welcome-to-toronto-the-rude/
hxxp://deadliestwarriors.blogspot.ca/2011/01/why-toronto-sucks.html
hxxp://www.returnofkings.com/19293/why-i-moved-from-toronto-to-montreal
hxxp://landlopers.com/2013/07/22/visit-toronto/
hxxp://isitnormal.com/story/hate-canada-2113/
hxxp://livinginthedeadcity.weebly.com/
hxxp://tomenunite.blogspot.ca/
hxxp://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Toronto
hxxp://www.citynews.ca/2013/04/16/the-inside-story-mens-rights-group-causes-controversy-at-u-of-t/
hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvYyGTmcP80
hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0
hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otZVhqDVlgk

Whoever hates Canada, you are not alone. I have been living in this shithole for eleven years and are planning to leave in several years. I had terrible experience in Canada. Here is my list of reasons:


#1)Fifty percent of it’s people are unfriendly and disrespectful

Canada, as one of the most well-educated countries in the world, has that much unfriendly and disrespectful people. That is a high percentage. Almost everyone pretends to be respectful in front of you, but they are ignorant behind you. This is what the true Canadians are, especially Canadian Asians. 

#2)Poor justice system

This is a pretty serious one when it comes to defending your own self and property. You are likely to get charged for resisting physically from someone hurting or robbing you.

#3)Is there a meaning of being Canadian? 

Why do you call yourself a Canadian? What is the purpose of it? Does Canada even have its own culture? Why are you proud of being a citizen of huge freezing shithole? I am sure most Canadians can’t respond to these questions. To me, being Canadian means no dignity.

#4)Freedom

When you compare Canada with another country like USA. You will notice how not free Canada is. They expect everyone of us to live our lives the same fucking way. So living in Canada we really don’t have lots of choices. 

#5)Lifestyle

number one lifestyle would be live-to-work. All Canadians do is work to pay off huge amount of debt they own. Lots of them don’t live enjoyably. Number two would be hockey, weed and alcohol. they do these activities repeatedly. 

#6)Weather

This is what makes the population small and the country boring. Freezing temperatures means no one is going to live here. Winter activities only means no other activity. As I mentioned in #5, people repeat what they always do.

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I’ve came across this thread while coming to the realization at young age Canada does not offer great opportunities as advertised to immigrants in their respective countries.

Canadians under 25 like myself, have become very saddened that our skills are going to waste. For an exp. I have education in context of CJS as well as self-educated in computer programming which is apparently in demand here… without luck I have traveled from east to west looking for stable jobs and can tell you this in my 6 years of doing this.. if you want good money you will work blue collar jobs like ones in AB in which you’ll be away from you family weeks on end and now in 2015 you’ll be lucky to find these. 

In Ontario the biggest areas of employment are retail & manufacturing (was) along with your construction, retail being around min wage (11$) ON, construction($15) & man.(11-19) I have also noticed that immigrants work particularly hard here and do not get good jobs most jobs are precarious and they do not deserve this especially after paying 10k to come here and essentially are lied to by CIS. My advice if you are a immigrant is to live on basics, never take a loan out here & most importantly save all your money and use the dollar to your advantage in your home country. Some Canadians are finally catching on the dollar stretches far and are enjoying exceptional lives in South America/Caribbean. Canada is unique in the sense you can go away for a few months and come back and be full of entrepreneurism and you feel it drift away over the passing months and than finally accepting the dream or excitement is crushed, I don’t really know how this came to be but I suspect the cold people and laws everywhere really discourages your happiness. Canada is designed that you wake-up go to work have a crappy lunch get fat have health problems come home take meds. and pretend your happy, this unfortunately is life for most as I see friends that are Canadians & immigrants consumed by depression and a debt trap that strangles their soul.


To any Canadian reading this and shaking their head thinking I have betrayed my country this is simply not true; I’ve travelled far and wide & almost every single province and know this country well, local labor markets, education, people etc. Canadians trusted sense in this country is skewed by working class mentality which unfortunately do not have the openness to explore the world or accept other foreign cultural values that would benefit spirituality & health, but instead we poke away at out lives in Canada angry at our outcome of debt and defend our country by becoming defensive of our ways and rationalizing lies in our head that this is the best way, it is no;t it’s a life of frustration and the end result is sadness and physical illnesses with no family connections. 


To immigrants; you would much be better off coming here in the summer months working your butts off and save everything, do not bring a whole family you will sink. Come here with a time-frame 1 yr, 5 yr etc. stick to that make monthly saving goals do not keep up with Canadians in respect to cars houses new things etc. this is all borrowed happiness(bank) You will do well if you work and keep your head down and remember this is not your future, use the dollar back home for leverage, you will live like kings DO NOT tell anyone your plans you will experience envy like no other.


For everyone else who is still shaking their head I have nothing to teach you and for that reason you should carry our your false sense of happiness in slave land as you will never experience the sense of freedom that many do eventually experience after realization this is a pyramid game, its kind of like that movie the Island… but you should also know that once oil has crashed completely which it will within a few decades the economy will have no backbone and will be forced to evolve with jobs disappearing in 2015 due to petro prices currently low and work being outsourced and job security becoming a fantasy along with the approaching automization society I can only hope you will listen and understand power and bargaining power is shifting, thanks for the read.

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“Well said Aussies, well said. I do agree with your points very much. Although throughout my experience out of Ontario i found and interesting point. The rest of Canada veiws Ontario as jerks and the lest like what is supposed to be Canadian culture. Toronto is a dirty place there of course you will find the most immigrants because Toronto is the place where people think they can make it. I urge you, if you have not already to experience the rest of Canada, the east and west coast provinces are beautiful and different from Ontario the people are nice and there way of living is very relaxed, not go go go like Ontario or in that case Toronto.

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“west coast is full of pretentious wanna be hippie environmentalists who smoke weed and think they are so great because they live by the ocean. the only thing that is interesting or has any character at all in canada are the native americans…that they have managed to live so long under canadian rule and even, in some cases, thrive is a miracle!

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“i dunno why that posted half the 2nd message again, just other points on how canadas impossible to like, crap weather, everythings a scam, the people are socially dead (unless they are looking tips the pretend to be nice so you will pay them a fortune and arent happy no matter what you give them they think they deserve a load of tip just for being human!! the men are too intouch with there feminie side, they have low self esteem and are insecure!! no work life balance, no days off your first year at work and a miserable 10days every year after!! too much expected off you,frown at other people as if they arent living there lives right if they choose to have fun rather than work work work even on their weekends off!! boring athmosphere, everything looks the same so its boring to look at!! stupid people that think canadas the best place ever even though they have never left it! what a shitty exsistance to live in canada


i am permenant resident with same health card as a canadian citizen. all health care has to be paid for apart from the actual operation, stay in hospital and prescriptions and dental care all must be paid for unless you have insurence from work benifits or a private firm. free health care where i come from means wheather working or not without any need for insurence, free prescriptions, free stay in hospital, free operations, subsidised dental care or if unemployed free


and we have free health care too just incase you wonder why i said that

i wouldnt have needed to use the so called ‘universal’ health care system over there but the place was so terrible and boring that i needed anti anxiety medication to cope but i am back to normal now that i am out of it 6 months, thankfuly i had the chance to get out of there unlike so many other people from all nationalities that are stuck and want out, if canadians where real happy there why does everything always strike, everytime you go to do something or turn on the news theres a strike, you dont strike if lifes good

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“I would rather live under a fucking bridge or be serving a life sentence in a jail in any place in South America than to live in Canada. What a fucking cold and boring place… I HATE EVERY MINUTE I LIVE IN THIS SHIT HOLE

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“Canada is just a psuedo-country… most people here are depressed and suicidal …. This nation is spiritual death.

I just meet a canadian hairstylist who didn’t kwnow where Chile was?
I also met an RCMP drinking ayahuasca in Peru because He didn’t find in Canada adequate health care to deal PTSD.

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“It’s true what Aussie is saying. Canadians in general are scared of competition when it comes to food and department stores and fast food. They think in terms of hatred to anything American because they see how good we have it at so little effort that we put into it. It’s called brotherhood and sisterhood. That’s why we in the States have our own cultures because we welcome everyone from around the world. Yes, we have stupid hateful people too but on average Canadians have about 90% stupid hateful people basing their hatred on lies and plain ignorance. Americans are 100% more polite than Canadians and we have way more fun and we don’t have to beg our government to open up amusement parks or water parks or whatever that allows us to have a great time. I lived in Alberta and that is a shit hole like no other place I ever lived in the States. L.A. people always had a smile and said good morning and good day. In Calgary, everyone is always uptight about something, never smiling, never says hi or good morning. They take your money at the stores with a frown. People in Calgary are miserable. I saw it in traffic and in restaurants and at gas station and at the parks which by the way are so freaking boring. the zoo in Calgary is a boring uneventful sobering look at what the city has to offer and it’s nothing. You have to pay for every single thing you do that is unless looking at trees is a great pass time or traffic. It’s an old lady city for old folks that go to die like elephants in the wild. Canada is very boring and everyone I ever ran into except for a few and I mean very few were very unhappy in their demeanor. Yes Canada sucks!

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“Everything you state is absolutely correct. I’m not blowing smoke up your ass, just giving you props for getting it all so right. Btw, the anti-americanisms that are so common in Canada I regard as an on-going tiff between two kindred people that started so long ago, and for reasons so long forgotten. A bunch of people had a revolution, another bunch of the same ethnicity didn’t want to join, animosity ensues. Wash, rinse, and repeat ad nauseum. I don’t come from anglosaxon stock, so I have zero contempt for the USA. Everything in the USA is so much better than this mess, so I’m glad you’re finally home where you should be.

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“By the way, Canada is not a safe place to live and it’s health insurance they claim to praise is not a good health benefit not when you have to be put on a waiting list to get a cat scan and wait for 3 to 4 month to find out how your cancer is progressing. And wait 2 to 3 weeks for a simple blood test. Referrals to see a specialist is like pulling teeth and the wait to see one is fuck!ng ridiculous. Seen it happen first hand because my girlfriend is Canadian and she waited 6 months to see a specialist about her female problems. For a little over 6 months she had to endure pain in her abdomen because of the system they have in Canada. By the time she seen a specialist she had to be rushed in to have an operation to get rid of the toxic cyst that was the size of a golf ball on her ovary and they had to do two operations because the surgeon didn’t remove all the cyst like he was supposed to. My guess he was drunk when he did it. She is moving to the States when her paper work goes through which they will. She is so fed up with the hatred of Canadians and the government that is 50 years behind the world!

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“I was born in Canada and lived here all my life. My parents immigrated here unfortunately and ive been trying to get out of here all my life. I agree with so many things all you ppl have been saying, Canadians always seem to bash American’s and I find that so funny because they are both similar. Im ashamed to say im Canadian but proud to say my blood isn’t , and that im not a descendant of you French and English Canadians that mass murdered the native Indians of this country. This place will forever be racist, it was created through racism .

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“Whenever I hear the word CANADA or hear the national anthem or see the fucking Canadian flag I feel like PUKING

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“These comments actually gave me some hope. I hate this overly governed, overly priced shit hole. I’ve lived in Canada my entire life and I have traveled many places. Every time I see the CN tower when I’m coming back I burst into tears because I never want to come back. I lived in Toronto for 4 years and I nearly committed suicide 3 times. My family is dead because of water pollution in Parry Sound and other family members are dead because of hospital fuck ups. I’m self employed and it makes life extremely difficult but I can’t be a fucking zombie like everyone else or listen to ego maniacs every day of my life. I don’t own a television because its all media driven paranoia tactics and the programs are designed for people who can’t believe you can swear on a prime time show or get kicks at watching how messed up other peoples lives are and think their own innately boring life is the best because it’s the safest. If you have any kind of a personality do not come here! You can’t smile, or have a good time because bar owners/restaurant owners think you’re drunk or on drugs when you’re completely sober, you can’t smile or laugh or have a decent well rounded opinion. Don’t talk back to anyone even if you’re just pointing out how ridiculously illogical they are, they won’t get it they just want to fight you because that’s how sports taught them to deal with confrontations. I’m a bit of hypocrite there because if you try to fight me I won’t back down but only after I verbally tie your brain into a knot and you don’t know the fucking alphabet anymore. Our education system is terrible, there are very few good teachers in every school. Just robot teachers spitting out what they were told, not many of them challenge kids and share actual knowledge or embrace it when a child shows some spirit. The education system is designed to create robot children, don’t think outside the box that will get you suspended. Then you’ll grow into the same monotonous producing slave, product consuming adult. Everyone is extremely clicky, like no one every leaves high school and this is true all the way through to the politicians. They tear each other up like they are posting scanned photos up in the high school hallways and trying to get the popular group to like them. There are more redeeming verses and ideologies written on bathroom walls by junkies than anything our politicians have stated.


Sorry if that was too much ranting but I needed to get some of it of my chest and I’m relieved and comforted that I am not the only one who hates it here. I couldn’t do it but this country makes me understand why people kill other people sometimes. I am stuck right now trying to make enough so I can go live simpler somewhere else where people actually enjoy life, friends and communities. It’s ridiculous irony within happenstance but another way out has not presented itself to me yet. Believe me I have tried to enjoy life here and meet nice people but it has come to a stale end so my search will continue elsewhere.

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“That is it in a nutshell…Americans do not sit around and obsess about Canada. In all the years I live in the US I can’t remember anyone talking bad about Canada. You have to move here to get a firm grip…on how much of a loser country Canada really is. I really hate this place (and I know…if I don’t like it leave). Well why don’t you Canadians try treating people with respect. What a bunch of hypocritical liars you Canadians are… I spend my pension from another country here and I m still treated like garbage.

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“and YES, I will be so so so so glad to see the last of Toronto!! I do not care one bit that we have to uproot ourselves, move a thousand kms away and take our children out of school to ESCAPE the frustration and WASTING that is part and parcel of being an immigrant in Toronto. We want so much to contribute to this country – to be successful – and not be made to feel like we are third rate and basically unwanted (which is what Toronto seems to do to immigrants). SO someone far away has given us that CHANCE to escape: GOD LOVE THEM. Maybe Canuck is right…its just a Toronto issue…not a Canada issue. I am more than willing to HOPE that he is right and I am very keen to give the rest of Canada the benefit of the doubt.

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“Good luck Aussie888, hope you have far more success in another province. I agree Canada is beautiful (but not that different to New Zealand). In some ways I often wish I had brought my children up there. Actually do believe it is a better place to rear a family, they seem to have it more together there as far as family/community values go and the youth are not as far out of control as I feel they are here.


I can see that immigrants are treated with suspicion, no matter what country they originated from, but they should be giving all who they allowed into their country a FAIR GO. Comparing countries and cultures, Australia and Canada are strikingly similar in so many ways which should be a pointer for us not treated with suspicion and contempt and the attitude we are just there to take jobs from Canadians. If our Government here offers Canadians the chance to work immediately (without any bias or restriction) surely theirs could reciprocate? 


On the west coast we saw many Aussies working but probably more on a working visa I’d guess.

Toronto is not an attractive city at all. You cannot compare it to Sydney which is stunning. Country towns in Ontario to me all look grey and dull, here they have verandahs and parks in all (except maybe the tiny ones)and people are laid back, friendly. When my OH first came here a guy said “G’day mate how are you going” in a parking lot. They don’t do that i Canada. What? Openly friendly to a stranger? My OH was stunned! 

Living there for a year just made me appreciate here more. People can make or break a place and I like the openness here,the non-judgmental nature of people and none of this nice superficially while they try to find a way to destroy your happiness behind your back.

Authorities here are better to deal with also.

They have no A Current Affair to go to when things go wrong (joke!)

Good luck, I hope you find you piece of Canadian paradise Aussie888. If not there is always a place here for you.

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“montana is like that…people openly friendly and approachable. funny, with a sense of a larger world. canada is oppressive and small-minded no matter where you go….its the culture that has been cultivate and in my honest opinion it has to do with all the racism and sexual abuse here. they dont even have a public sex offenders registry….why? probably because the main offenders are white canadian business men and politicians and priests and related to law and justice depts. why else have a closed registry? at least in the USA i can check any state any time in any neighborhood to see if there are predators i should know about. canada protects racists and pedophiles…tom flanagan publicly defended child pornography, he was harper’s advisor. ….im telling ya, people….its a sick sick society.

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“Thanks so much….well I think I am learning that not all of Canada is like Toronto….well not many cities on earth could be as drab and dirty if they tried…there is no PRIDE in this city…the rubbish dropped EVERYWHERE is testament to that fact! But above all the people here are UN FRIENDLY….not so once you get well away….especially in the north east. Coming back here from north east (where we are going to live) confirms absolutely in my mind that (a) this city is a garbage dump and (b) the majority of people here are cheerless and miserable because life is so hard:….lousy wages (so many people work 2 or even 3 jobs just to survive)…no holidays unless you call 2 weeks a year a “holiday”…AND despite what they think SHIT AND VERY SLOW HOUSE health care…..and so EXPENSIVE relative to what people earn!!! I actually think Sydney may be cheaper despite the incredibly expensive housing….people just earn so much more back home…yes it gets swallowed up in a mortgage but I will think people live better than in Povronto….or was that Povertyronto?

And you have no idea how much cheaper houses are in the north east….real pubs too not just sterile plastic “Sports Bars”…and yes people actually talk about politics and DEBATE it…in Toronto they just seem to accept what is dished out to them meekly. Yes the wages are still lousy (well not for my wife luckily) but at least the money goes somewhere….here my wage would not even go close to paying the RENT for THE DUMP we live in! 

Yep Australia is a great place and so I suspect may a good deal of the rest of Canada…..but Toronto….Toronto you can keep. As one comedian here put it: “Welcome to Toronto – gateway to Hamilton Ontario!”.
Best wishes and good luck hey!

sorry a few typos there…I’ll let you guess where…but I should also state when I say “the north east” I do not mean north east Ontario…I mean the glorious Maritimes….Atlantic Canada…..to be sure, to be sure, it feels OK to a wild Colonial Boy like me of Irish background!

and by the way I DO agree that the South Island of NZ from what I have seen is so far THE most beautiful place on earth I personally have seen…..don’t know the North Island well and have not travelled all over Canada yet…..yes NZ is about as good as it gets that is for sure! Jeez and I’m an aussie saying that !!

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“Saw this comment and couldn’t resist. I am a Kiwi stuck in Ontario. I could be here all day listing the things wrong with this place !! but the 9 months of winter and the little bags of dog sh!t left all over the footpaths are up near the top. Cant wait to get out. Even my kids hate it here. Anyhow, Yes I have seen nothing here that compares with Sth Island NZ. A few lakes that you can barely access if you don’t have a ‘cottage’ and some trees !! Just for the record ‘straya’ is also pretty awesome, I have family there ( ok, what self respecting kiwi dosnt have family in Oz) and miss being able to hop over the ditch for a bit of winter sunshine. 14 weeks to go and I am outta here. Wish we could get into USA but we can’t. So We are heading back down under where as shocking it might seem to some, I might even get a pleasant hello and even a smile when I return.

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“@: AUSSIE888 :nope. its a canada issue. its the canadian ethos…you will find it all across the country.

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“I am Canadian, born in Nova scotia. First @ AUSSIE888, I aggree with you on our Government lying to get immigrants to move here, my wedding photographer was a chemical engineer from the philippines, and Canada wouldnt let him use his degree here, and expected him to return to school for 2 years!


On the other hand, please dont place all of us under the same umbrella, we are not spineless, to speak out against our extremely corrupt government but dont have a “soapbox” so to speak. As far as Toronto is concerned, I cannot speak for everyone else but on the east people are very friendly. 


As for what nonametoday said, is completely foolish. The british didnt steal Canada from the Indians, thats just our stupid culture letting people believe that garbage! Read a history book, we didnt take anything, A: alot of native people died from small pox from the eastren visitors, and got addicted to fire water and traded “their land” for our booze clothes and farming techniques. They grew dependant on the British and french. The stupid treaty is very small and doesnt have half of the things in it that Native people get. They get an amazing free ride, based on somthing that happened to complete strangers to either side centuries ago. I have to admit I would take alot of the same things if offered to myself, but the bottom line is we will never be even until everyone pulls their own weight.

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“i live in Toronto and it is shit…I’ve always thought that the east coast of Canada must be a nice place to live…too bad it’s still in Canada or i’d move there

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“Thanks so much for that feedback, I honestly appreciate it. Look Canada is a beautiful country and it OUGHT to have – DESERVES to have – so much more potential than it does. Yes houses are cheaper here than Sydney BUT the wages are so so so much lower….at best it evens out. I think Sydney sucks by the way. I am not home sick at all. I would like to stay here….but immigrants do NOT get a break. Period. If you call working in a minimum wage job a break – sure we get the chance to do that – but not more. Not without many years of struggle and wasting. Yes I said WASTING, not waiting. Because it WASTES the lives of people with so much potential.


I think the best thing about Australia is we really understand the concept of a FAIR GO. Here they have no clue about such a concept. It is alien in their culture.

The worst thing of all is this “Canadian Experience” excuse to keep people down. That just sucks . I have NEVER EVER even heard anyone in Australia talk about “Australian experience”. WE welcome experience form overseas…even look up to it sometimes.

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“@: John_Doe :Not only Americans don’t like Canada…a hell of a lot of Australians hate it to…

Now what? You wanna pull a “your country started off as a nation of convicts”? Nice.

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“John Doe will never get it. He is part of the liberal left culture that can’t except other views. Have you ever noticed the college campuses who invite conservative speaker and then drown them out with name calling. (sledgehammer).


What we have are people so biased by there own opinions- they spin facts to support the views – tell themselves that these facts are real and then can’t comprehend why other people don’t understand there spun views -so they resort to name calling and character assination.- All along demonstrating their bias without knowing (or caring). 


Same as Hollywood- They all hang out together – no exposure to other views- form opinions, call them facts and use their celebrity media access to blast other people.

Just watch the Oscars. Have you ever thought about a group of professionals who have no shame in promoting themselves and patting themselves on the back in a public forum- as if to say “we did it- so it must be good.”

John Doe probably gets his “facts” from Michael Moore and Hollywood movies.

And the CBC- a leftist, state run channel.

He’s not a dope. Just a blind liberal who sees things his way- has no room to understand the other side of issues and is stuck living in Canada with the CBC

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“What about Africville in Nova Scotia?

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“You know, bigotry comes in many forms. It is my experience that most bigots don’t even know they are bigots. They are taught bigotry – somtimes directly and many other times in suttle ways.


In the US, Bigotry existed because it was never discussed in the public form- back then it was the newspapers, today lets just say media. People only heard the local bigots- and never heard opposite views. That changed in The US- that is why the US media had extreme left (liberal), Extreme right, conservative and the center. The media covers all three sides in US- unfortunately if you don’t understand the US media then you might only hear one side like the NY Times or LA Times – two powerful, gigantic and largely extreme left media conclomerates. Or maybe you only understand the Christian conservative media outlets. 

In the US, people choose what side of an issue to be on because they have exposure to all sides. This sadly is not as true in other countries.

Canada has been leaning left for many years. It is difficult to find any powerful media outlets in Canada that cover issues completely.

People in Canada get indundated with one sided versions, typically backed up with conjecture and opinions and not facts.

For example, It is okay not to believe in the death penalty. Many Americans are against it too. It is not correct to state that the US is wrong and everyone else is correct without proving something with real facts. That would be no different than stating that Canada is so leniant on criminals and so tolerant on anti-social behavior that to prove it they let Karla Homolka, a serial killer walk the streets less than ten years after her guilty verdict.

The US majority choses to weigh punishment over rehabilitation for heinous crimes. They believe punishment sparks deterence. Some people believe the reverse. There is no evidence in either direction as each side can come up with facts, figures and opinions that bolster their beliefs …

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“There is more to it than that, This John Doe guy is an Anti-American- you can blame the media or not in Canada. He says he is not Anti-American – and then he espouses false views = like Americans think all Arabs equate to terrorists. Such utter nonsence- comes from deep rooted Anti- American views.


The US did indeed fund Bin Laden during the cold war to fight off Soviet expansion in Afghanistan during Jimmy Carter’s Presidency. 


The US as a world superpower was and still is obligated to protect the world against opression and agression. Canada is not. Decisions made twenty five years ago that helped can sometimes backfire in your face in the future. The world benefited from Soviet Union losing the war in Afghanistan, and soon after collapsing. It is easy to forget the good and point fingers at the bad if someone is uninformed, biased and has deep rooted Anti-American feelings in the first place. Most Anti-American feelings stem from feelings of inadequacy, jealousy and powerlessness.

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“the canadian set of “morals” consists of the following:


-dont question authority, no matter how corrupt or obviously wrong it is


-dont ask questions that might produce an uncomfortable or inconvenient answer


-never talk about the past unless it is in stereotyped, cliched or whitewashed terms


-always blame the victim


-never have a serious debate about anything important


-always deny anything you know will reflect badly on you


-always deflect criticism and blame it on someone else, preferably americans


-be nice to outsiders who are of a different skin color than yourself, but burn native americans in effigy every chance you get


-never question canadas involvement in israeli state terrorism…blame america but always support us foreign policy no matter how many people die or how illegal it is


-always be a hypocrite whenever the chance emerges to be so


-corrupt your children with your toxic, poisonous, offender opinions and mentality so the cycle is repeated

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“it’s a fact that Canada has more crime than the States…the States only has more murder

you would know this if you werent an ignorant nazi Canadian

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“@: John_Doe :and how many years have you lived in the USA again? how many jobs have you held there? how many states have you lived in? how many americans have you interfaced with on a daily basis and for how long?


–per capita canadians are among the fattest nations in the world: “One in four adult Canadians and one in 10 children are clinically obese, meaning six million Canadians living with obesity require immediate support in managing and controlling their excess weight.” 


–clifford oleson, pig farmer guy, marc lepine or whatever the name of that dude who massacred all those women, that serial killer in saskatchewan who was murdering natives, the rcmp and city police harbor serial killers who are protected by their racist buddies, child predation in canada is epidemic but downplayed by govt (thomas flanagan publicly defended child porn) who no doubt employs some of these serial predators…rina virk was murdered by a gang of white canadian kids in bc…helen betty osborne was raped and brutally murdered by four white guys, whole town knew, everyone ignored the natives trying to seek justice, protecting the white boys….brian sinclair died of sepsis in a canadian hosptial staffed by white people….he sat in the ER for almost 38 hours while they ALL ignored him…i could go on but serial racism produces serial murderers either through direct action or negligence….and white canada produces racists at a phenomenal rate


–according to the UN the murder rate in usa is 4.8 per 100, 000…in canada its 1.6 per 100, 000. now do that math and think about it proportionally….the us is approx 300 million people so a murder rate of 4.8 is actually quite low. canada is 30 million people…yet the murder rate is almost half that of the usa


–same for the violent crimes rates…canada is almost half the rate of the usa but with substantially less of a population.


at the end of the day, canada is a crap country with just as many problems as the usa but with nowhere near as many opportunities and certainly nowhere near as much character, panache, history, independent thinkers, innovators, and generally all round fun interesting people. 


montana has no taxes except on land etc. but you go into a store and something says $1.59 its a $1.59. montana, one state of the union, has more going for it in terms of personality, society, guts, history, character and economy than the entire country of canada.

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“and just say if ye dont know the answer to something rather than makin up crap, theres something twisted bout you egos that you need to pretend to know everything! and for the top comment that everyoner hates where they live, no its wrong, try leaving canada to ye see whats out there, i love where i live and even more now after seeing canada, we always talk about fun things to do and enjoy life!! im not american im irish”

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“toronto sucks

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“…Fuck that shit, you can keep the terror , fag, depressed people going nowhere. I’ll take America with its economy problems.

Oh btw Canada, how is you dollar stores? That’s right, non existent! Everything is $2 or $3 in you dollar stores now! Here in USA, all good name brand shit for $1! Just for an example. 

And the American people, are armed and stand up for there rights if the government fucks with them to hard, they will overthrow them not afraid of a full scale civil war,
While Canadians just bend over! 

Plus the chick put out easier and are hotter here in USA, being the majority. But you metro and homo types don’t care about that now do you?

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“OMG – 6 weeks left in this ish-hole! Off to Sunny California…so long!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And haters who will say “Good Riddance” – oh you have no idea!!!

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“The Canadian national anthem should be amend to – ‘God gives our land, glorious UNFREE.’

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“Most Canadians made me misunderstood Americans & USA. When I go to USA to have a true visit, I have feel that USA Americans are so good & fair to me. I feel shame of listened to so many lies from Canadians.

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“Living in Canada is a nightmare and many people agree. Is there a place worldwide where there are more white people, who are middle to upper class? A country with less taxes, better people, better culture, better weather, less expensive everything, better education and economic opportunity, and also less boring? I am searching for a new place to call home. I dont want to live in a country infested with stupid liberals and immigrants especially from 3rd world countries. Germany, Australia, UK, Norway, Sweden are all off the list since they are just as bad as Canada, although Canada is much worse than all of them. I just want to live a normal life. With my own culture and own people.

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“Listen to me white boy, mommy lied when she told you Canada is exclusively YOURS. Now move over cos people have real concerns living in this shithole unlike you whining about skin color.

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“I am Peruvian live in Shithole Ottawa.

I’ve lived in Peru Miami UK Texas and sadly I now live in the shithole capital of the world Ottawa.
I dream of returning to my country soon as I can afford UPS to move my belongings to Peru.
I have never met more miserable racist ignorant rednecks than I have in Ottawa. Also my first Landlord was a piece of work and was robbing me he had some workmen in my home they robbed me too , So now in my new apartment I have CCTV & window bars I had several attempts of burglary on my apartment. So now I live in a security fortress . Its sad that all my money has gone on bars and cameras to keep scum away from my shitty apartment. And its not as if I am made of money I am so poor but I fear home invasion . In Canada if you defend yourself you go to jail . Criminals have rights what’s that all about. In my country you have carry conceal permits and are allowed lethal force if your life is in danger or if some psycho breaks into your home. I have to return home before I loose my sanity. The people in Ottawa are miserable nasty & ignorant. If you are not retarded into hockey drugs & beer you are not welcome. If you read books and wish to discuss academic subjects like say : Noam Chomsky, History, Politics, World Travel , Science, Shakespeare, Yukio Mishima, The Occult , Richard Dawkins etc Oh boy then they really hate you. To be part of Ottawa you must first be born in Ottawa second be ignorant have no desire to improve yourself . Oh and have no hygiene , the people in Ottawa stink to bo & cigarettes yuck. If you shower everyday and wear clean clothes they give you dirty looks. And the People don’t seem to wash their hands after using toilet , hence I never shake hands with these disgusting people. I am truly thankful for air freshner and hand sanitizer busses & toilets stink and are truly disguating germs everywhere yuck .

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“Canada sucks in a massive way and if you run this site and you deleted my last comment about how much I hate this faggot country of hypocrites and church-bred cunts then fuck you too.

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“pompous, self-righteous, boorish, hypocritical = white canadian. except for the newfoundlanders…of all the white canadians ive met ONLY the newfoundlanders (and a handful of saskatchewaners) have been sincere, genuine, and approachable. the rest of y’all are uptight, fake, posers.

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“I lived in Toronto a few years and am glad to be back home in the great US. The Canadian government is so full of themselves- catering to the liberal thinking elite. There are no morals there.

Back home we have a solid government, not perfect but with strong morals. Especially after Clinton left office and President Bush took over. We were lucky that thne Canadian style of liberalism did not completely spill over into the US to elect Al Gore. The country would probably falled down to resemble parts of Canada by now.

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“@: John_Doe : 75%% of all serial killers are in America. How do you know that?- In America you can find the truth with the all the media outlets

in countries like Canada you can’t even legally have a satellite dish to find out the truth, your stuck listening to the CBC and their version. 

Bill Gates is greedy? If you were to have real in formation in Canada available you would find out that since mid 1990’s Bill Gates has been the largest Philanthropist in the world.

You should be more informed. It is hard though in Canada.

The US is thinking about building a wall to keep people out – Millions want to come here.

Canada is so non-violent their entire military is smaller than the NYC police force. Canada’s version of non-violence is to rely on US for protection- And claim US is bad guy for using their military.
You right there are fat people in US with morals. Skinny people in Canada with none.

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“and I should add that they are racking up debt and sleeping at the wheel WHILE they tax you at every conceivable opportunity. When will the wash room tax be introduced I wonder? I mean people really NEED to go to the toilet sometimes so why not find some way of taxing that City of Toronto???


Anyway the good news is we are moving on from here in a few months, not back to Australia, but to another Province where my partner has found well paid work. Our savings may not be completely depleted after all !And NO fellow Canadian tax payers, fear not, this aussie immigrant has NOT taken a SINGLE cent of Canadian welfare. Got more respect for myself AND for your country than that!

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“here’s a solid answer (not that it will make sense to you, you being a canadian):

people hate canada because y’all are racist, greedy, china sellouts, no game–just hang offa uncle sam’s coattails, hypocrite, fake, posers.

everyone who visits you comes away with the same impression. 
its YOU…its your culture, your personality, your entire society….youre a nation of child molesting racist in-denial hypocrites who are pompous, boorish, self-inflated with your own perceived “greatness” which is only the run-off from the USA causing delusions of grandeur in you. 
theres nothing original or admirable about you.

youre boring, passive-aggressive, small-minded and stale. youre like stale 60 year old crackers or a has-been comedian who still thinks he has it when he never had it.

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“You have a shitty government cause you are shitty people living in a frozen feminist hell hole. There’s nothing unfair, you got what you deserve. Have a nice day.

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“In my experience, you totally get what you pay for with free Canadian Health Care.

Mis-diagnosing an absolutely viable pregnancy as a blighted ovum is a BIG NO-NO!!!!

Asking me to take Part 1 of the Integrated Pre-natal Screening test one month early – a BIG NO-NO!!!

Having your OB-GYN tell you that a certain test procedure “is not brain surgery” (after asking her what it entails) – another BIG NO-NO!

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“The immigrants only came and only stay because their countries are totally unsafe or poverty-stricken. What they gain in safety etc by coming to Canada they most certainly give up in terms of self-worth and contentment. This country invites people in, probably under duress, and then turns around and hates them for not being what a Canadian should be. Make up your mind Canada – either accept who YOU have let in and truly believe what you spout about “celebrating the differences” or shut up and get on with it – you are free to vote and if you vote for a government who is hell bent on multiculturalism then you must expect the consequences of these decisions.

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“You are right…being in Canada HAS BEEN a waste of time! Glad you agree.

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“First: A Real Canadian: Is the Native Indian.

Second: There are currently the remaining whatso-called majority “white canadians” who eventually will dissapear by the time, whom their grandfathers immigrated to Canada from Britain and France and hijacked the land with barbarism from Natives.

They consider anyone who is less white, tanned, dark, have an accent is an “immigrant” even if he is a Canadian citizen or been living in Canada since it has existed. 

The current diminishing majority white Canadians thinks anyone who walks on their land is there to share their money and to take advantage of Canada…BS. 

Third: The only category of people who are using the Canadian system, are refugees, social welfare.

Immigrants (first generation Canadians) pay as much taxes as canadians, pay as much towards all services and get trashed in your system and treated like bums.

Immigrants pay very large sums of money to the Canadian Gov to be able to relocate to Canada.

This money is serving existing population of Canada, so immigrants are importing their money to Canada which serves Canadians and Canada. 


Fourth:By far the worse weather on planet earth, the most boring ever.

Fifth: the delusional white Canadians, who think they are the only one. are naturally very aggressive, so unfriendly unlike Americans, Racism is most common, but not with admission, it is practiced secretly knowingly. 

The only time where a new Canadian does not get the vibe of Racism is when he is paying money. Which “me being nice” dissapears right away after they get their money.


Living in Canada, is like living in a big graveyard, for the living.

Because also, dead people do not smile and are emotionless so are they.

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“I agree with everything here. Except you can say that the money paid by the immigrants is probably going to pay the refugees on welfare and teh unemployed drunk canadians cause I sure as hell aint gettin any money from the government”

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“As an immigrant, I’d like to say that you are right on with your observations and comments.

I’ve been treated like a second class citizen just because I have a bit of an accent.

In the US I’d never be treated as poorly as I do get treated in Canada.
This nation has never been challanged enough to understand what a develop country should be like..

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“Canada lacks of visionaries and integrity.

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Total agree.

Quotes from: http://isitnormal.com/story/hate-canada-2113/

Note: I made a copy of these comments because anything critical of Canada tends to be scrubbed from the web, and predictably this page was taken down.

I am curious as to whether life got better for the Aussie on the east coast, but knowing Canada as I do I’m going to venture a guess of NO.